AZADPAKISTAN2009
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 8, 2009
- Messages
- 37,669
- Reaction score
- 68
- Country
- Location
Design work for the Block 3, JF17 release has now been completed as we have heard already and it is fair to assume that post design work the actual conceptual model would have already commenced. So now it is fair to say that JF17 Block 3 is with in grasp of Pakistan Airforce.
How will the new JF-17 Block 3 , fare vs existing Fighter Jet Solutions in place world wide? That is the main objective of the thread.
The Begining (Comparison with F16)
To various observers, people have always concluded the JF17 Thunder base model always looked inspired from F16 a fighter Jet which was mainly created to be a defender of Airspace. Since the JF17 looks considerably inspired from the F16 it is no suprise that many PAF pilots who have flown the F16 and who have also have flown the JF17 Thunder claim that there is no real difference between flying the capable JF17 Thunder platform or the much touted F16
The overall dimensions of the fighter Jet look tremendously similar while both planes have distinct differences which seperate the F16 VS JF17 , such as the inflow of air to the engines how it has been design in F16 and how the Pilot Cannopy is different for the F16 and JF17 , the key element or point from PAKISTAN airforce's prespective is we are getting the Performance from the platform which is "Made in Pakistan"
Is the Block Thunder more of F16 Block E/F or Is it a F18 Hornet:
When we talk about Evolution of the Thunder platform Block 1 , Block 2, Block 3 the story looks remarkably similar to the evolution of the Hornet
Overtime the design has been enhanced or scalled up when necessary i.e bigger plane vs origional size in order to fit in newer weapon load or newer bigger radars. Or simply be able to store more fuel
Some people when they view the Hornet plane they see some similarly in it's front areas with JF17 Thudner
And it is expected that with arrival of JF17 Block 3 the performance figures of the Fighter Jet would also be comparable to much more expensive platform such as Hornet
So where would JF17 Block 3 be positioned in term of Performance and Reliability?
Note: The real performace parameters of Block 3 , JF17 Thunder will come only after it starts to induct in Pakistan airforce however as I have listed in red above that these areas will improve and with next generation improvements we can certainly say that he fighter Jets are comparable to F18 or F16 clibre High performance platforms
We can certainly say 100% that with Block 3 JF17 the fighter Jet will certainly narrow the gap between other platforms in market provided by USA , and what we manufacture locally
as a comparable platform.
From Physical characteristics we can see while JF17 will not become a Truck Bomber like Hornet (F18 , however it will certainly improve it's own weapons load capacity) with generation Block 3.
With F16 VS JF17 debate , we can see clarly from physical numbers that the physical performance characteristics for Thudner will certainly become better then F16 platform
JF17 would only be able to surpass Super Hornet would be in term of weapon's load if it increases it's overall size / scale. However the Thunder does not need to be a bomber
The Thunder is a multi mission platform with Pakistani Airforce relying on strategic weapons vs shear weight of weapon load.
So it is very Obvious that from a performance point of view and also from point of view of cost the JF17 Thunder offers all the PERKS of big brand name but it gives you better value for your money
i.e You can Purchase 3 Thunders for Price of 1 Hornet
While you can always dance with Top brands with Block 3 you will certainly have capability to own a Top Tier Defender of Airspace as is the case with JF17 THUNDER BLOCK3
Considering how the Hornet has evolved over time it is not completely out of question that Pakistan cann't evolve the Thunder to Block 4 i.e Super JF17 or JF18
Will the Thunder have potential to become a Super JF17 , i.e scaled up design with Twin engine that is up for debate and discussion
However one thing is certainly that Block 3 , will push the Pakistani Airforce one step further towards their modernization goals and efforts
It is very simple to make a indirect comparison once JF17 Block 3 is up to part with F16/F18
Here below you can see comparison of F16 with F22
A survey conducted , by pilots who have flown multiple platforms.
Since our JF17 Block 3 is in the ball park of F16 , we can see how it would compare to F35
With Block 3 (A hypothetical comparison)
How will the new JF-17 Block 3 , fare vs existing Fighter Jet Solutions in place world wide? That is the main objective of the thread.
The Begining (Comparison with F16)
To various observers, people have always concluded the JF17 Thunder base model always looked inspired from F16 a fighter Jet which was mainly created to be a defender of Airspace. Since the JF17 looks considerably inspired from the F16 it is no suprise that many PAF pilots who have flown the F16 and who have also have flown the JF17 Thunder claim that there is no real difference between flying the capable JF17 Thunder platform or the much touted F16
The overall dimensions of the fighter Jet look tremendously similar while both planes have distinct differences which seperate the F16 VS JF17 , such as the inflow of air to the engines how it has been design in F16 and how the Pilot Cannopy is different for the F16 and JF17 , the key element or point from PAKISTAN airforce's prespective is we are getting the Performance from the platform which is "Made in Pakistan"
Is the Block Thunder more of F16 Block E/F or Is it a F18 Hornet:
When we talk about Evolution of the Thunder platform Block 1 , Block 2, Block 3 the story looks remarkably similar to the evolution of the Hornet
Overtime the design has been enhanced or scalled up when necessary i.e bigger plane vs origional size in order to fit in newer weapon load or newer bigger radars. Or simply be able to store more fuel
Some people when they view the Hornet plane they see some similarly in it's front areas with JF17 Thudner
And it is expected that with arrival of JF17 Block 3 the performance figures of the Fighter Jet would also be comparable to much more expensive platform such as Hornet
So where would JF17 Block 3 be positioned in term of Performance and Reliability?
Note: The real performace parameters of Block 3 , JF17 Thunder will come only after it starts to induct in Pakistan airforce however as I have listed in red above that these areas will improve and with next generation improvements we can certainly say that he fighter Jets are comparable to F18 or F16 clibre High performance platforms
We can certainly say 100% that with Block 3 JF17 the fighter Jet will certainly narrow the gap between other platforms in market provided by USA , and what we manufacture locally
as a comparable platform.
From Physical characteristics we can see while JF17 will not become a Truck Bomber like Hornet (F18 , however it will certainly improve it's own weapons load capacity) with generation Block 3.
With F16 VS JF17 debate , we can see clarly from physical numbers that the physical performance characteristics for Thudner will certainly become better then F16 platform
JF17 would only be able to surpass Super Hornet would be in term of weapon's load if it increases it's overall size / scale. However the Thunder does not need to be a bomber
The Thunder is a multi mission platform with Pakistani Airforce relying on strategic weapons vs shear weight of weapon load.
So it is very Obvious that from a performance point of view and also from point of view of cost the JF17 Thunder offers all the PERKS of big brand name but it gives you better value for your money
i.e You can Purchase 3 Thunders for Price of 1 Hornet
While you can always dance with Top brands with Block 3 you will certainly have capability to own a Top Tier Defender of Airspace as is the case with JF17 THUNDER BLOCK3
Considering how the Hornet has evolved over time it is not completely out of question that Pakistan cann't evolve the Thunder to Block 4 i.e Super JF17 or JF18
Will the Thunder have potential to become a Super JF17 , i.e scaled up design with Twin engine that is up for debate and discussion
However one thing is certainly that Block 3 , will push the Pakistani Airforce one step further towards their modernization goals and efforts
It is very simple to make a indirect comparison once JF17 Block 3 is up to part with F16/F18
Here below you can see comparison of F16 with F22
A survey conducted , by pilots who have flown multiple platforms.
Since our JF17 Block 3 is in the ball park of F16 , we can see how it would compare to F35
With Block 3 (A hypothetical comparison)
Last edited:
