Ex-US Intelligence Official Confirm: Secret Pentagon Report Proves US Complicity In Creation Of ISIS

[TankMan]

So the Pentagon foresaw the rise of ISIS and considered the ramifications of its rise. That is all. The rest of the insinuations are mere conspiracy theories, which are about a dime a dozen.

The US readily supplied and funded Syrian rebels in their myopic attempts to overthrow Bashar al Assad. A good portion of those rebels are what's now called ISIS. If the Pentagon foresaw this, that means the US knew exactly what would happen if they kept arming ''moderate terrorists''.
And no, these are not conspiracy theories.
Advanced U.S. Weapons Flow to Syrian Rebels - WSJ
Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels| Reuters
Remember Those ‘Moderate’ Syrian Rebels That The U.S. Armed? ISIS Got Some Of Those Weapons Too

 

[VCheng]

The US readily supplied and funded Syrian rebels in their myopic attempts to overthrow Bashar al Assad. A good portion of those rebels are what's now called ISIS. If the Pentagon foresaw this, that means the US knew exactly what would happen if they kept arming ''moderate terrorists''.
And no, these are not conspiracy theories.
Advanced U.S. Weapons Flow to Syrian Rebels - WSJ
Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels| Reuters
Remember Those ‘Moderate’ Syrian Rebels That The U.S. Armed? ISIS Got Some Of Those Weapons Too

US support for Syrian rebels is no secret and aimed at ending the mass murders in Syria, no conspiracy theories needed. However, al-Assad has managed to defeat those goals and is still clinging to power.

 

[TankMan]

US support for Syrian rebels is no secret and aimed at ending the mass murders in Syria, no conspiracy theories needed. However, al-Assad has managed to defeat those goals and is still clinging to power.

The US didn't do it out of the goodwill in their hearts. The support to the rebels was aimed at destroying the Syrian government as part of the ongoing series of proxy wars against people the US doesn't like, namely Russia and co. They couldn't care less what happened to Syrian people. I never said it was a secret.

But If it was aimed at ending Assad's mass-murders, it might become successful sooner or later. It will replace Assad's mass-murders with ISIS'. Doesn't make a difference for the people being killed.

 

[VCheng]

The US didn't do it out of the goodwill in their hearts. The support to the rebels was aimed at destroying the Syrian government as part of the ongoing series of proxy wars against people the US doesn't like, namely Russia and co. They couldn't care less what happened to Syrian people. I never said it was a secret.

But If it was aimed at ending Assad's mass-murders, it might become successful sooner or later. It will replace Assad's mass-murders with ISIS'. Doesn't make a difference for the people being killed.

Goodwill has no place in international geopolitics. Only national interests matter. What happens after Assad leaves can be sorted out at that time. There is no rush.

 

[TankMan]

Goodwill has no place in international geopolitics. Only national interests matter. What happens after Assad leaves can be sorted out at that time. There is no rush.

Goodwill has no place in geopolitics. Therefore, your claim that US support to Syrian rebels was solely intended to save Syrians from Bashar al Assad's mass-murders is false.

Yeah, no rush. Topple a government, let terrorists take its place, then invade it and install a weak puppet government. Rinse and repeat and enjoy the beauty of death and destruction.

 

[VCheng]

Goodwill has no place in geopolitics. Therefore, your claim that US support to Syrian rebels was solely intended to save Syrians from Bashar al Assad's mass-murders is false.

Yeah, no rush. Topple a government, let terrorists take its place, then invade it and install a weak puppet government. Rinse and repeat and enjoy the beauty of death and destruction.

Nothing I have said is false, but merely matters of fact.

 

[Solomon2]

Goodwill has no place in geopolitics.

You're a sick man, TankMan. Willfully ignorant. Is this opinion common among your fellow Pakistanis?

 

[TankMan]

You're a sick man, TankMan

A personal attack. Thank you for admitting that you have no refutation to my arguments and can not argue with me.

Is this opinion common among your fellow Pakistanis?

Ah, a bigoted remark against my nationality. How typical.

In your bigotry, you failed to see that I was quoting @Syed.Ali.Haider ,an American who used this justification to defend the actions of the USA. Post number 19. Read it instead of attacking me like an illiterate.

Goodwill has no place in international geopolitics.

Read the quote. On the top left of the quote box, It says ''Syed.Ali.Haider said''. You can go tell him how sick he is. Or is it ok for him to say it because he flies the star-spangled banner instead of my green flag? Now, let me ask you: is this bigotry common among your fellow Americans?

And leave me out of the sanctimonious bullshit you will proceed to spew about how wonderful and moral the USA's geopolitical maneuvers are.

 

[VCheng]

Read the quote. On the top left of the quote box, It says ''Syed.Ali.Haider said''.

Yes, there is no goodwill in international geopolitics. To think otherwise is naive. That is the truth, blunt and bitter.

 

[TankMan]

Yes, there is no goodwill in international geopolitics. To think otherwise is naive. That is the truth, blunt and bitter.

Please explain that to @Solomon2 who seems to think I am ''sick'' for even mentioning that.

 

[VCheng]

Please explain that to @Solomon2 who seems to think I am ''sick'' for even mentioning that.

No, let him think whatever he wants.

 

[Solomon2]

A personal attack. Thank you for admitting that you have no refutation to my arguments and can not argue with me.

Touché!

In your bigotry, you failed to see that I was quoting @Syed.Ali.Haider ,an American who used this justification to defend the actions of the USA. Post number 19. Read it instead of attacking me like an illiterate.

Next time put the quote in quotes to make it clear that it is somebody else's opinion, not your own.

And leave me out of the sanctimonious bullshit you will proceed to spew about how wonderful and moral the USA's geopolitical maneuvers are.

I don't have to. Millions upon millions around the world, including in Pakistan, have experienced how generously the U.S.A. treats both friends and foes in times of natural disaster, man-made devastation, or poor macroeconomic judgment.

It is a kind of challenge to those governments and parties who not only can't measure up, but don't have any ambition to. Hence it becomes another source of anti-Americanism propagated by the powerful in an attempt to confuse and dominate their people.

 

[TankMan]

I don't have to.

If you want to waste your time, be my guest.

Next time put the quote in quotes to make it clear that it is somebody else's opinion, not your own.

I quoted him, and then paraphrased him in my reply. Next time read the conversation carefully before jumping in. As for my opinion, I don't believe there is enough goodwill in today's geopolitics. I believe there should be, but there isn't.

Skepticism regarding politics doesn't make one ''sick''. It's actually a very healthy thing to have.

Millions upon millions around the world, including in Pakistan, have experienced how generously the U.S.A. treats both friends and foes in times of natural disaster, man-made devastation, or poor macroeconomic judgment.

Millions upon millions around the world, including in Pakistan, have also experienced the murderous wrath the US unleashes on innocents when it feels like it. More often than not, the aid is either bribe for the politicians or an incentive for poor countries to do the US's bidding.

It is a kind of challenge to those governments and parties who not only can't measure up, but don't have any ambition to. Hence it becomes another source of anti-Americanism propagated by the powerful in an attempt to confuse and dominate their people.

You think our government propagates ''anti-Americanism''? It doesn't. In fact our governments for the past few decades have been pro-American.

America propagates anti-Americanism when it bombs villages, attacks our soldiers, sends murderers on killing sprees into our countries, maintains a hypocritical foreign policy and then criticizes us with sanctimonious lies. Our governments wouldn't have to propagate anything, even if they wanted to.

 

[VCheng]

America propagates anti-Americanism when it bombs villages, attacks our soldiers, sends murderers on killing sprees into our countries, maintains a hypocritical foreign policy and then criticizes us with sanctimonious lies. Our governments wouldn't have to propagate anything, even if they wanted to.

The same America that arms your military and provides help for education, power generation and in earthquakes and floods? Hmmmmm.

 

[TankMan]

The same America that arms your military and provides help for education, power generation and in earthquakes and floods? Hmmmmm.

Yes, the exact same. Hypocrisy, that's the essence of US foreign policy. In case you didn't read the argument before jumping into it, your argument is exactly what I was responding to. @Solomon2 was perplexed as to how ''anti-Americanism'' is spread despite all of America's 'good deeds'.

What needs to be understood is that the US does more than enough bad to negate the 'good'.