Ex-NSA Mishra accuses UPA Government of strategic ineptness

[T90TankGuy]

While i will not say that he is the right person, if a person says right things then they are to be taken note of. This present government is acting like a child unsteady of its foot steps. The much talked about second generation economic reforms are not heard of from their lips. Strategically the US India deal hasn't begotten for what it was formed. The Srilankan issue is perfectly true. The only thing this government wants to do is secure its position for next elections.

Look at my state AP the telangana crisis has already eaten into our revenues and many firms are moving out. No new budgets are being released and in future the situation could become even dire. Wherever Congress is there nothing fruitful is happening.

i am now in Hyderabad for the week . i headed a team here from mumbai and know all about the telangana crises . i have not seen even one company moving from there . also we are recruiting , so what you say does not hold true to me , as the reality before my eyes says something else.
as for the telangana crises as far as i know its origins started 50 yrs ao and has been brought to prominence by TRS , i remember when i came here during the last week of dec 2009 , how these people were forcing a shut down of all shops . they even stopped my taxi and canceled the AP registration with black paint and wrote TG there.
dont blame the government in the center for the losses caused by narrow minded and greedy politicians of your own state . there is no need to call bandh after bandh , in what way is it helping? except causing daily workers and shopkeepers to face problems?

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Look mate I don't support congress(to a lesser extent) and BJP. The BJP govt. ordered half the india's military to border(2001) only to cower away at the prospect of Nuclear flash out. That being said, we cannot overlook the continued govt's stonewalling of efforts to bring back the black money stashed abroad. I would be amazed if the congress still manages to come back to power after all the endless list of scams.






Although Advani does seem to be a good statesman but plz no MODI !!
That guy ordered the execution of countless Muslims of godhra in cold blood. Any sane person can never forgive such a criminal act. The extensive planning involved to kill the innocent Muslims can never be pardoned.

ps. I would campaign for BJP if they break away from RSS for ever.

really??? what about the party whose leaders led mobs that butchered thousands of Sikhs on the streets of Delhi in 1984? Sajjan Kumar Jagdish tytler Kamal Nath all of whom are still active in Indian politics today the fact that they used voters lists to track down and kill Sikhs for a period of 3 days purposely holding back the police and army from intervening to protect Sikhs and end the violence? nice double standard, eh? the fact is those members of the Congress(I) party have yet to face justice despite having the blood of thousands of innocent people on they're hands

do you know what its like to see your father beaten with metal rods by a gang of thugs and burned alive with petrol? while your mother is screaming and begging?

 

[perplexed]

really??? what about the party whose leaders led mobs that butchered thousands of Sikhs on the streets of Delhi in 1984? Sajjan Kumar Jagdish tytler Kamal Nath all of whom are still active in Indian politics today the fact that they used voters lists to track down and kill Sikhs for a period of 3 days purposely holding back the police and army from intervening to protect Sikhs and end the violence? nice double standard, eh? the fact is those members of the Congress(I) party have yet to face justice despite having the blood of thousands of innocent people on they're hands

do you know what its like to see your father beaten with metal rods by a gang of thugs and burned alive with petrol? while your mother is screaming and begging?

Do you know of a place called C.R. Park in South Delhi ? The bengalis there used to patrol the streets at night and day protecting hundreds of innocent sikhs who were given refuge from rampaging mobs. I am proud some of my relatives were part of such a noble act. Its not my double standard. The sikh riots were equally shameful act.

both bjp and congress are different sides of the same coin. Whom to vote now ?

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Do you know of a place called C.R. Park in South Delhi ? The bengalis there used to patrol the streets at night and day protecting hundreds of innocent sikhs who were given refuge from rampaging mobs. I am proud some of my relatives were part of such a noble act. Its not my double standard. The sikh riots were equally shameful act.

both bjp and congress are different sides of the same coin. Whom to vote now ?

my point being if you want Modi to face justice put all the members (that are still alive) of the Congress(I) who were involved in the sikh riots to death if your going to castigate modi for the gujrat riots why not the congress party who killed 10x the number of people in one city compared to the gujrat riots? even the BJP members who lived in Delhi and RSS hid and helped Sikhs during the violence Vajpayee was also known to help a few helpless Sikhs

from the five years BJP was in power 1999-2004 the population living under the poverty line decreased from 45% to 38% CONgress slogan is "garibi hatao" been saying that for 40 years and they've been in power most of the time Advani then should lead our nation to prosperity and on the path to become a superpower

 

[LiberalAtheist]

dude Advani is old whats with these old guys still in Indian politics? good god Modi did not tell people "go and kill any muslim you see" look what he did for the development of Gujrat thats what India needs a leader who is willing to develop and modernize the nation Modi Jaitley Advani Rajnath singh are all good choices for PM Modi especially

people still vote for the CONgress party despite they killed thousands of Sikhs Modi was not directly involved in the riots why not vote 4 him? the Indian Janta needs a strong leader who will actually move the country forward

 

[Tshering22]

Do you know of a place called C.R. Park in South Delhi ? The bengalis there used to patrol the streets at night and day protecting hundreds of innocent sikhs who were given refuge from rampaging mobs. I am proud some of my relatives were part of such a noble act. Its not my double standard. The sikh riots were equally shameful act.

both bjp and congress are different sides of the same coin. Whom to vote now ?

Not until proven guilty. Modi is only guilty in the eyes of anti-Hindu, anti-Sikh and anti-Buddhist pseudo-secular forces that are interested to promote inequality in our country, create internal strife and continue their control over the country. Congress and its media-sell outs are the finest example.

Even the highest law authority has not pronounced Modi or anyone guilty yet they keep harping against him to redirect national attention to the same old stupid dialogue that is deviating national attention from corruption and divide in this country.

What the eff were the Congress ding in 1988 and 89 when Kashmiri pandits, buddhists and sikhs were being brutally massacred by Muslims? Where the hell was their dirty secularism when they refused those families who escaped entry into other cities and kept them toiling in refugee camps within the country? My relatives were there to suffer that madness which the secular brigade showed. Fortunately, they had homes in Ladakh to escape to. What about the Pandits and Sikhs? They till now are toiling in refugee camps in outskirts of Punjab and Himachal.

If this is the meaning of your secularism, then I reject it completely.

 

[angeldemon_007]

Its time for Congress party to stay out of government for a decade.

 

[indushek]

i am now in Hyderabad for the week . i headed a team here from mumbai and know all about the telangana crises . i have not seen even one company moving from there . also we are recruiting , so what you say does not hold true to me , as the reality before my eyes says something else.
as for the telangana crises as far as i know its origins started 50 yrs ao and has been brought to prominence by TRS , i remember when i came here during the last week of dec 2009 , how these people were forcing a shut down of all shops . they even stopped my taxi and canceled the AP registration with black paint and wrote TG there.
dont blame the government in the center for the losses caused by narrow minded and greedy politicians of your own state . there is no need to call bandh after bandh , in what way is it helping? except causing daily workers and shopkeepers to face problems?

I don't know into which sector you are but if it is IT and ITES then you should know that there are lot of other SME companies that are either moving towards Vizag or relocating else where. I don't have any statistics with me to prove it, i have learnt this from people i know. There are companies manufacturing some engineering goods in industrial sectors like patancheru etc which are effected by bandh. Hell there are some BPO's that are moving too it seems, which my friend told me.

How can you say that the center is in no way responsible, I am surprised that you know about 50 years of struggle for Telangana and don't know the current situation!!!!!! The ruling party in my state is Congress and when it lost its leader YSR in Andhra wasn't it its responsibility to put up another strong leader?? Shouldn't it have taken necessary steps atleast after the flare up?? When YSR or Chandra babu were there where were these greedy politicians and the protestors asking for telengana?? Whenever there was strong leadership these clowns were no where to be seen. Infact the misinformation by Telangana leaders that their region was under developed due to Andhra regions nefarious activities was debunked. The Congress when it came to know about the TRS plans could have taken precautionery steps but it didn't. That fool of a Chidambaram announced that Telangana would be granted and the circus started. Who was he to decide or for that matter Congress?? IT is solely the responsibilty of Congress that my state is in this state. The only reason we don't have any problem is because of sound financial state of people here. So don't claim to know every thing about this state just because you were stopped once during a bandh.

 

[T90TankGuy]

I don't know into which sector you are but if it is IT and ITES then you should know that there are lot of other SME companies that are either moving towards Vizag or relocating else where. I don't have any statistics with me to prove it, i have learnt this from people i know. There are companies manufacturing some engineering goods in industrial sectors like patancheru etc which are effected by bandh. Hell there are some BPO's that are moving too it seems, which my friend told me.

How can you say that the center is in no way responsible, I am surprised that you know about 50 years of struggle for Telangana and don't know the current situation!!!!!! The ruling party in my state is Congress and when it lost its leader YSR in Andhra wasn't it its responsibility to put up another strong leader?? Shouldn't it have taken necessary steps atleast after the flare up?? When YSR or Chandra babu were there where were these greedy politicians and the protestors asking for telengana?? Whenever there was strong leadership these clowns were no where to be seen. Infact the misinformation by Telangana leaders that their region was under developed due to Andhra regions nefarious activities was debunked. The Congress when it came to know about the TRS plans could have taken precautionery steps but it didn't. That fool of a Chidambaram announced that Telangana would be granted and the circus started. Who was he to decide or for that matter Congress?? IT is solely the responsibilty of Congress that my state is in this state. The only reason we don't have any problem is because of sound financial state of people here. So don't claim to know every thing about this state just because you were stopped once during a bandh.

i dont claim to know everything about the state . just that i belong to the IT sector , been a senior manager for about 4 yrs now and know about why some companies want to open offices in vizag . its cause of the cheap talent pool available there . we too set up an office there a few months ago , but have no plans to close this one down . we employ roughly 3000 people here and its impossible for companies like us to close shop and relocate. by the way i have been coming to Hyderabad from 2002 .

 

[indushek]

i dont claim to know everything about the state . just that i belong to the IT sector , been a senior manager for about 4 yrs now and know about why some companies want to open offices in vizag . its cause of the cheap talent pool available there . we too set up an office there a few months ago , but have no plans to close this one down . we employ roughly 3000 people here and its impossible for companies like us to close shop and relocate. by the way i have been coming to Hyderabad from 2002 .

Yes i can understand what you say and towards IT sector i accept your explanation as it seems to be the ground situation here too. But all i am trying to say is that the Center could have done better with quick decisions than let the unnecessary violence and wastage. IF u would like to know about the losses and corruption, u can look about "JALA YAGNAM" a water irrigation development scheme started at time of YSR, it holds a scam which when it comes out could shake some people for sure.

 

[Manas]

really??? what about the party whose leaders led mobs that butchered thousands of Sikhs on the streets of Delhi in 1984? Sajjan Kumar Jagdish tytler Kamal Nath all of whom are still active in Indian politics today the fact that they used voters lists to track down and kill Sikhs for a period of 3 days purposely holding back the police and army from intervening to protect Sikhs and end the violence? nice double standard, eh? the fact is those members of the Congress(I) party have yet to face justice despite having the blood of thousands of innocent people on they're hands

do you know what its like to see your father beaten with metal rods by a gang of thugs and burned alive with petrol? while your mother is screaming and begging?

secularism of congress is an hogwash my friend.

1984 riots weren't even riots , those were public executions of sikhs by congress led mobs as the police and administration looking other way.

And the shameful statement of Rajiv Gandhi that earth shakes when a big tree falls on the deaths of thousands of sikhs,....still Congree party and gandhi family is paragon of secularism.

But its never the question of secular credential of congress which is sham anyeway . Its all about protectging selfish interests thats why vote banks flock to the congress party.

Muslim vote for congress ,not because it protects Muslim live as most riots happened in congress ruled days ,but because congress wont change retrograde laws of the Muslim personal law.

similarly christian organisations find good congress party indifferent to tho the missionary activities, its huge foreign funding and rampant conversions around the country.

And All those leftist liberals love congress again not because of its secular credentials ,but its stagnant socialist policies it practices for decades . Economic reform was an accidental occurrence due to presence of PV Narashimha Rao and an unavoidable crisis . After that We have't moved an inch in forward direction from 2003 since congress is power.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

secularism of congress is an hogwash my friend.

1984 riots weren't even riots , those were public executions of sikhs by congress led mobs as the police and administration looking other way.

And the shameful statement of Rajiv Gandhi that earth shakes when a big tree falls on the deaths of thousands of sikhs,....still Congree party and gandhi family is paragon of secularism.

But its never the question of secular credential of congress which is sham anyeway . Its all about protectging selfish interests thats why vote banks flock to the congress party.

Muslim vote for congress ,not because it protects Muslim live as most riots happened in congress ruled days ,but because congress wont change retrograde laws of the Muslim personal law.

similarly christian organisations find good congress party indifferent to tho the missionary activities, its huge foreign funding and rampant conversions around the country.

And All those leftist liberals love congress again not because of its secular credentials ,but its stagnant socialist policies it practices for decades . Economic reform was an accidental occurrence due to presence of PV Narashimha Rao and an unavoidable crisis . After that We have't moved an inch in forward direction from 2003 since congress is power.

CONgress is any thing BUT secular

pseudo-secular definitely they are that

 

[LiberalAtheist]

secularism of congress is an hogwash my friend.

1984 riots weren't even riots , those were public executions of sikhs by congress led mobs as the police and administration looking other way.

And the shameful statement of Rajiv Gandhi that earth shakes when a big tree falls on the deaths of thousands of sikhs,....still Congree party and gandhi family is paragon of secularism.

But its never the question of secular credential of congress which is sham anyeway . Its all about protectging selfish interests thats why vote banks flock to the congress party.

Muslim vote for congress ,not because it protects Muslim live as most riots happened in congress ruled days ,but because congress wont change retrograde laws of the Muslim personal law.

similarly christian organisations find good congress party indifferent to tho the missionary activities, its huge foreign funding and rampant conversions around the country.

And All those leftist liberals love congress again not because of its secular credentials ,but its stagnant socialist policies it practices for decades . Economic reform was an accidental occurrence due to presence of PV Narashimha Rao and an unavoidable crisis . After that We have't moved an inch in forward direction from 2003 since congress is power.

CONgress is any thing BUT secular

pseudo-secular definitely they are that

 

[perplexed]

Not until proven guilty. Modi is only guilty in the eyes of anti-Hindu, anti-Sikh and anti-Buddhist pseudo-secular forces that are interested to promote inequality in our country, create internal strife and continue their control over the country. Congress and its media-sell outs are the finest example.

Even the highest law authority has not pronounced Modi or anyone guilty yet they keep harping against him to redirect national attention to the same old stupid dialogue that is deviating national attention from corruption and divide in this country.

What the eff were the Congress ding in 1988 and 89 when Kashmiri pandits, buddhists and sikhs were being brutally massacred by Muslims? Where the hell was their dirty secularism when they refused those families who escaped entry into other cities and kept them toiling in refugee camps within the country? My relatives were there to suffer that madness which the secular brigade showed. Fortunately, they had homes in Ladakh to escape to. What about the Pandits and Sikhs? They till now are toiling in refugee camps in outskirts of Punjab and Himachal.

If this is the meaning of your secularism, then I reject it completely.

MODI was lackadaisical in taking action against rampaging karsevaks. These karsevaks had detailed information about where the muslims lived, in how many numbers and in what density courtesy municipality records. They went exactly to the same homes and burnt them down. So, even after knowing if you are not doing anything as the chief minister of the state is tantamount to willful support. So, to all those people (punjabisidhu etc) who have deepest of empathy for the sikh riot victims should have empathy for these people also and stop supporting any party assosiated with karsevaks.

My point is : The rss folks have repeatedly tried to polarize the view of people on religious lines (gujrat riots/ babri demolition) and is a real threat to national integrity.
BJP has a point. They have model states like Gujrat/Bihar under them which epitomises development in INDIA. Why not they separate themselves from RSS/VHP and let people judge them purely on the basis of development work they have done or are capable to do. Until they make it clear that those lunatics(VHP) will have no say in national policies BJP would surely not come to power.
As for congress, no need to say anything. They are equally tainted with history of riots(84 riots) which when coupled with complete mis governance is a terrible combination . The current lot are the worst in Modern history of INDIA. Cant even imagine they coming back to power again.

 

[T90TankGuy]

Yes i can understand what you say and towards IT sector i accept your explanation as it seems to be the ground situation here too. But all i am trying to say is that the Center could have done better with quick decisions than let the unnecessary violence and wastage. IF u would like to know about the losses and corruption, u can look about "JALA YAGNAM" a water irrigation development scheme started at time of YSR, it holds a scam which when it comes out could shake some people for sure.

what i cant get over how Jagan is . he declared 600 cr as his worth . man he is the 2 most richest MP in india