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The European Union Chamber of Commerce in China says the issue can be easily resolved if Beijing opens up further, takes away market access barriers and conducts more economic reforms


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European companies operating in China are extremely worried about getting caught in the US-China trade war crossfire and some are considering relocating to Southeast Asia as punitive tariffs slapped by the world’s two largest economies take a toll on multinational firms, according to the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.

On Tuesday US President Donald Trump announced an additional 5-10 per cent levy on US$200 billion worth of Chinese imports from next Monday, the latest round of punitive trade tariffs on the world’s second-largest economy. China’s Ministry of Commerce said it would fight back by taking “synchronised counter measures” against the tariffs.

A survey by the business lobby group found that nearly 54 per cent of nearly 200 respondents feel the US tariffs will cause significant disruptions to the global supply chain and some 7 per cent have either moved or are planning to move their production out of the mainland. And that percentage could rise as some companies were still assessing the impact from the trade war before they make their decision.

The survey also showed that 5.2 per cent European companies have either moved or are moving US-based production facilities out of the market.

“We believe that if China would open up more, take away the market access barriers, conduct more economic reforms without creating stronger state-owned enterprises, all of those [trade war and trade tensions] can be avoided,” said Carlo Diego D’Andrea, vice-president of the EU chamber.

Multinational companies plan to move production capacity to Southeast Asian markets such as Vietnam and Philippines to dodge the additional tariffs levied on the key parts which are imported from the US and used for assembling and processing in China.

The survey also anticipated that the trade war will result in slower economic growth, millions of job losses, less trade, higher production costs and weaker demand in China.

“Both [sides] are prone to losing companies as a result,” the EU chamber said.

The EU chamber said the cause for the trade war and the tensions in the global economic system was China’s reform and opening failing to keep pace with its rapidly maturing economy.

“European companies have for a long time been stifled by the efforts of China’s reform deficit, and now they are taking collateral damage from the US-China trade war,” said Mats Harborn, president of the EU chamber in China.

Last week, the American Chamber of Commerce in Beijing and Shanghai found in a survey that three-quarters of US companies operating in China would be negatively impacted if the tariffs on US$200 billion worth of Chinese goods were implemented.

More than 47 per cent of respondents from a survey of 430 US companies said they were expecting a “strong negative impact” from the tariffs.
 
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So China needs to imitate America,Launching a trade war in Southeast Asia?:partay: There are also foreign companies fleeing the US,Manufacturing will not return to America.:angel:
 
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It's only 7%. Why even bother to publish this report.


" some 7 per cent have either moved or are planning to move theirproduction out of the mainland. "
 
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It's only 7%. Why even bother to publish this report.


" some 7 per cent have either moved or are planning to move theirproduction out of the mainland. "
The planning to move is just a big if. So, number is even less than 7%, may be 2-3%. This is media exaggeration,
 
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@gambit check this thread ...your compatriot predicts China will collapse soon...

Who says collapsing? It’s just showing the Trade War is actively causing foreign companies {not just US ones) to seriously consider shifting manufacturing out of China. Selling to the US market is far more important to them than people here think and if the US is going to stick it to them some companies are going to start moving.

This was from a few weeks ago:
https://www.motor1.com/news/253291/volvo-xc60-us-production-europe/amp/
Volvo Moving XC60 Production For U.S. Market To Avoid Tariffs
Volvo is becoming the first automaker to react on the new U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports. The Swedish manufacturer will move the production of the XC60 SUV for the American market from the People’s Republic to Europe


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-09-10/trade-woes-force-volvo-to-delay-ipo-video
Trade Woes Force Volvo to Delay IPO


 
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It is not hard to move assembly lines to countries like India.

India cannot offer 10% of what China has on offer. The Americans and Europeans aren't crazy that they have chosen China as their production destination. Mass production is no joke. China has developed a lot of expertise over the years. You cannot replace that by moving your production assemblies to another country.
 
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India cannot offer 10% of what China has on offer. The Americans and Europeans aren't crazy that they have chosen China as their production destination. Mass production is no joke. China has developed a lot of expertise over the years. You cannot replace that by moving your production assemblies to another country.
China has natural resource and hence manufacturing can't be shifted to India which lacks natural resource in the same quantity as china. But big items like automobile, heavy machines, capital goodsand electronics can come to India as
 
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Who says collapsing? It’s just showing the Trade War is actively causing foreign companies {not just US ones) to seriously consider shifting manufacturing out of China. Selling to the US market is far more important to them than people here think and if the US is going to stick it to them some companies are going to start moving.

This was from a few weeks ago:
https://www.motor1.com/news/253291/volvo-xc60-us-production-europe/amp/
Volvo Moving XC60 Production For U.S. Market To Avoid Tariffs
Volvo is becoming the first automaker to react on the new U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports. The Swedish manufacturer will move the production of the XC60 SUV for the American market from the People’s Republic to Europe


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-09-10/trade-woes-force-volvo-to-delay-ipo-video
Trade Woes Force Volvo to Delay IPO

Our mate @gambit jumps to this conclusion when Chinese share similar news about USA so I just wanted to show him that it works both ways and both sides indulge in the same propaganda.
 
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Our mate @gambit jumps to this conclusion when Chinese share similar news about USA so I just wanted to show him that it works both ways and both sides indulge in the same propaganda.

Except that one side add that "US will fall" in his Post...While saying CN is getting strong and will be the master of world... That whatever the world do... It's good for CN Biz...
Not even talking about The dozens of post re-saying the same thing... as the OP...

Here you get an Article... and that's it... Draw whatever conclusion you wish..;But even such Article end up being answered by the same "US will fall and CN is stronger" even when it wasn't the subject in the first place...

In the End, No one is winning... both are losing... So praising every "step" as the best thing that could happen in both sides is stupid... The US and CN are losing... and Satellite manufacturing nations are the true winner in it... and I'm pretty sure, they have a nice smile on their faces right now...
 
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Except that one side add that "US will fall" in his Post...While saying CN is getting strong and will be the master of world... That whatever the world do... It's good for CN Biz...
Not even talking about The dozens of post re-saying the same thing... as the OP...

Here you get an Article... and that's it... Draw whatever conclusion you wish..;But even such Article end up being answered by the same "US will fall and CN is stronger" even when it wasn't the subject in the first place...

In the End, No one is winning... both are losing... So praising every "step" as the best thing that could happen in both sides is stupid... The US and CN are losing... and Satellite manufacturing nations are the true winner in it... and I'm pretty sure, they have a nice smile on their faces right now...

Yes, if some company says they are going to make shoes in China they all cheer in unison at China’s success in attracting manufacturing...the next week when another shoe company says they are moving out of China they all cheer in unison as to how it’s great China is getting rid of industries like this. All positives are positive and all negatives are positive.
 
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Except that one side add that "US will fall" in his Post...While saying CN is getting strong and will be the master of world... That whatever the world do... It's good for CN Biz...
Not even talking about The dozens of post re-saying the same thing... as the OP...

Here you get an Article... and that's it... Draw whatever conclusion you wish..;But even such Article end up being answered by the same "US will fall and CN is stronger" even when it wasn't the subject in the first place...

In the End, No one is winning... both are losing... So praising every "step" as the best thing that could happen in both sides is stupid... The US and CN are losing... and Satellite manufacturing nations are the true winner in it... and I'm pretty sure, they have a nice smile on their faces right now...
May be someone might have done that on any thread but I remember it was not in that thread where they were arguing. But anyways...both sides are engaged in the similar propaganda. In my opinion both are suffering but each side hides its own losses, at least on PDF.
Furthermore, I don't see any of the country failing or collapsing any time soon. However, I have watched quite a few program and articles by westerners that conclude Chinese economy will collapse...since it is just a bubble etc.
 
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