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Erdogan Saved As Coup Pilot’s F-16 Jet Ran Out Of Fuel: Turkish Media

OOOoooOOOooo See, now there's something for a new 007 movie. The Germans did it. :agree:
Stratfor is a US based instituation. Can you say that they absolutely have no links with the US state institutions ?
 
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At that night i was in a fueling stop for cars very close to Ataturk Airport and before that i was walking through the airporT and i heard no F-16. on televison when it is said Erdogans plane landed, msybe half a minute later i heard a very loud sound and get out of the building and i saw an F16 passing over the runway caming from Atakoy. Actuâlly there are two runways at Ataturk airport and they are crosding each other and it was the wrong runway and Erdogans plane was at the opposite side of the airport, so it came late from Bosphorus bridge and couldnt catch it on the air and also couldnt find on the ground. As you look at the radar map you can see plane is waiting for a while at Bandırma. When F16"s are far towers says come and they cant catch the plane with a few minutes, if it was not safe, it would turn the route to Izmir.
 
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Stratfor is a US based instituation. Can you say that they absolutely have no links with the US state institutions ?
A radical Turkey would do nothing for the US, it would justify Germany and France's stance that Turkey should never be a part of the EU.

We don't spread chaos if we don't get anything out of it.
 
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A radical Turkey would do nothing for the US, it would justify Germany and France's stance that Turkey should never be a part of the EU.

We don't spread chaos if we don't get anything out of it.

1-) Are you in control of Erdogan ?

2-) How do you know that Turkey would be radical ? What if putschists would be in the control of US ? Do you unsatisfied with the rulers of Saudi Arabia ?
 
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1-) Are you in control of Erdogan ?
Turkey is one of those nations that we don't have control, just give them options and they naturally pick the ones in our favor or neutral.
2-) How do you know that Turkey would be radical ?
Turkey isn't radical now, so a Coup would have only went towards tyranny. Coups usually turn out to be opposite of what the Government is. Then there's coups that turn into an eagles nest, where tyrants are overthrown by other tyrants.
What if putschists would be in the control of US ?
The world will be superphucked.
Do you unsatisfied with the rulers of Saudi Arabia ?
Personally, yes. Global wise, they are being set it to be overthrown, destroyed, or abandoned.
 
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Turkey isn't radical now, so a Coup would have only went towards tyranny. Coups usually turn out to be opposite of what the Government is. Then there's coups that turn into an eagles nest, where tyrants are overthrown by other tyrants.
Radicalism and tyranny is two different things.

To gave an example, you are completely confortable with Sisi than Morsi in Egypt.


The world will be superphucked.

Okay, let's break it down some more.

Now; in Turkey. We are certain of some things, i'm not saying these but government, opposition parties, ex-generals, citizens, journalists, etc.....literally everybody in Turkey.

1-) Coup has been done by a faction that has been infiltrated in the military.
2-) Gülen Organization is behind the coup. The faction within the military whom tried the coup are also Gülenists, but besides that they have arms in every governmental institute.

The thing we are not exactly sure (i mean %100) is the involvement of the US government. Stratfor showing presidents plane on twitter, US harboring Gülen, US not handing over Gülen. US generals visiting Turkey before the coup. 15 US based academics (on international relations), arriving on an Island near to Istanbul and holding a seminar at the coup night.

There is serious belief in Turkey that US/CIA was the mastermind and via Gülenists they would want to control Turkey.

Personally, yes. Global wise, they are being set it to be overthrown, destroyed, or abandoned.
Yet still they are one of your greatest ally in ME....despite they are severing heads with swords and being ruled in monarchical system.

When it comes to ground, US doesn't care for democracy or human rights, etc..... be it Egypt, Saudi Arabia or the secterian ex-PM of Iraq, El Maliki. Only thing is if their government act according to US interests or not. (I'm not blaming you on these countries.)
 
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Why did you see a ball sack?
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Cuz it dead *** looks like a ball sack.
 
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Radicalism and tyranny is two different things.

To gave an example, you are completely confortable with Sisi than Morsi in Egypt.
Morsi and Sisi are two sides of the same coin. Either one could have worked for us.
Now; in Turkey. We are certain of some things, i'm not saying these but government, opposition parties, ex-generals, citizens, journalists, etc.....literally everybody in Turkey.

1-) Coup has been done by a faction that has been infiltrated in the military.
2-) Gülen Organization is behind the coup. The faction within the military whom tried the coup are also Gülenists, but besides that they have arms in every governmental institute.

The thing we are not exactly sure (i mean %100) is the involvement of the US government. Stratfor showing presidents plane on twitter, US harboring Gülen, US not handing over Gülen. US generals visiting Turkey before the coup. 15 US based academics (on international relations), arriving on an Island near to Istanbul and holding a seminar at the coup night.

There is serious belief in Turkey that US/CIA was the mastermind and via Gülenists they would want to control Turkey.
Practically everything falls into place almost perfectly, almost too good to be true. Why would the US/CIA leave a paper trail with that much evidence and the Golden Nugget Gülen out in the open. Look at this, not that over there.

Is the US using Gülen, or is Gülen using the US. Right now it could go either way.

Yet still they are one of your greatest ally in ME....despite they are severing heads with swords and being ruled in monarchical system.

When it comes to ground, US doesn't care for democracy or human rights, etc..... be it Egypt, Saudi Arabia or the secterian ex-PM of Iraq, El Maliki. Only thing is if their government act according to US interests or not.
True, but I don't think we need Saudi Arabia anymore.
 
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I highly doubt this news, if the mission was to kill the President, the last thing on the pilot's mind would be saving the F-16.
Rather than RTB, he would have gone ahead to complete his mission and even eject later.
I'd like to differ. Please understand that that those fighters weren't being piloted by Vatanperver like Gazi M M Alam or Shehit Refiki. These pilots are zombies programmed to be terrorists since their early childhood by the best brainwashing program devised by Iblis since the days of Adam and Eve. They have lost all Jesaret, Ihlas, Akl and Zeka emanating from God given Shahsiyet and Fitret long ago. So, at the most crucial time they failed to take any sound decisions since they're always ordered to do what they do..
 
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A radical Turkey would do nothing for the US, it would justify Germany and France's stance that Turkey should never be a part of the EU.

We don't spread chaos if we don't get anything out of it.

And Turkey will not be part of EU just like Austria said.

This madman can add as much drama as he wishes,but entire world knows what he is doing.He's turning Turkey into North Korea,literally.
 
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I highly doubt this news, if the mission was to kill the President, the last thing on the pilot's mind would be saving the F-16.
Rather than RTB, he would have gone ahead to complete his mission and even eject later.

The objective is achieved.
Btw,Turkish pilots go on missions unprepared,they just take the first jet they see and fly of.
 
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