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to you and people like you maybe i am sure not all muslims thinks this clown is a leader
Yes, not all Muslims (also) agreed when Turks claimed the 'Caliphate' and conquered Egypt in the past.
I don't know and I don't care, too what religion you belong but I am sure this individual, Erdogan whom you call a 'clown' did and still do for Muslim Ummah much more than what you can achieve your whole life long as an individual.
I of course don't expect such a behavior from an Egyptian now but have some respect for a President whom a nation elected.
 
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Sultan Erdogan wants to be the the new Caliph of the Muslim world. But unfortunately for him, there are too many contenders and pretenders to that title already.
 
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to you and people like you maybe i am sure not all muslims thinks this clown is a leader
Why is he a clown? Because Turkey under his rule eclipsed all countries in the region on all aspects? or maybe because he's democratically elected that didn't come to power on the backs of tanks? or that he refused to recognize a militant dictator, who destroyed Egypt's economy and reputation, as the legitimate ruler? Which one is it?

Sultan Erdogan wants to be the the new Caliph of the Muslim world. But unfortunately for him, there are too many contenders and pretenders to that title already.

First of all, anyone can claim whatever they want about people's intentions, it does not mean squat. I can claim nonsensical motives behind your leaders too.

Second, he never claimed to be a leader of anyone outside Turkey. it's the people around the world, Muslims or otherwise, who want a leader like Erdogan, a leader who expedite development and localization of important industries, a leader who turns his country into a more powerful, autonomous, and self sufficient heavy weight at the world's stage.

A lot of countries in the region have the latent potential of achieving all of those things, but they're hindered by incompetent leaders and cowardly, self serving elites.

Egypt of course being the prime example.

to you and people like you maybe i am sure not all muslims thinks this clown is a leader

P.S. I dare Sissi to come to Mecca to do Umrah like other respected leaders of the Muslim world (Even though he can't do that in his own country, he even held the workers' day in the police academy fearing for his life) , and you'll see how people receive him. Medina and Mecca inhabitants' reaction, being from all over the Muslim world, is the true measurement of popularity within the Muslim world.


Morsi in Mecca
 
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Yes, not all Muslims (also) agreed when Turks claimed the 'Caliphate' and conquered Egypt in the past.
I don't know and I don't care, too what religion you belong but I am sure this individual, Erdogan whom you call a 'clown' did and still do for Muslim Ummah much more than what you can achieve your whole life long as an individual.
I of course don't expect such a behavior from an Egyptian now but have some respect for a President whom a nation elected.
also not all muslims agreed when in the muhamed ali pasha era we got our revenge even if the main powers in europe saved your empire we still did a very good number battle after battle win after win you did pay for your occupation with blood
Why is he a clown? Because Turkey under his rule eclipsed all countries in the region on all aspects? or maybe because he's democratically elected that didn't come to power on the backs of tanks? or that he refused to recognize a militant dictator, who destroyed Egypt's economy and reputation, as the legitimate ruler? Which one is it?
all aspects even diplomacy ??
about being democratically elected democracy itself is not the goal at least to me it is what is best for the country for example china and russia western media call them dictator run countries but i pick a leader like putin over a million obama

P.S. I dare Sissi to come to Mecca to do Umrah like other respected leaders of the Muslim world (Even though he can't do that in his own country, he even held the workers' day in the police academy fearing for his life) , and you'll see how people receive him. Medina and Mecca inhabitants' reaction, being from all over the Muslim world, is the true measurement of popularity within the Muslim world.


Morsi in Mecca
el sisi need to worry about his popularity in Egypt other than that we deal with governments and except qatar and turkey our relations with the rest of the world is much better than erdogan who is not accepted in europe nearly hostile to russia and iran and syria and egypt and greece and libya i think even his own mother cant stand him
 
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also not all muslims agreed when in the muhamed ali pasha era we got our revenge even if the main powers in europe saved your empire we still did a very good number battle after battle win after win you did pay for your occupation with blood

all aspects even diplomacy ??
about being democratically elected democracy itself is not the goal at least to me it is what is best for the country for example china and russia western media call them dictator run countries but i pick a leader like putin over a million obama

Are you serious? you believe that standing up to the Egypt military heads and to Israel is considered a diplomatic failure?

Dude, even the U.S. cut its aid after the coup (just returned after 2 years), and a lot of countries were hesitant NOT to consider what happened in Egypt a coup.

I would say it's the opposite, normalizing relations with Israel after the Gaza war and with Egypt after the coup IS the diplomatic failure and shortsightedness.
 
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Are you serious? you believe that standing up to the Egypt military heads and to Israel is considered a diplomatic failure?

Dude, even the U.S. cut its aid after the coup (just returned after 2 years), and a lot of countries were hesitant NOT to consider what happened in Egypt a coup.

I would say it's the opposite, normalizing relations with Israel after the Gaza war and with Egypt after the coup IS the diplomatic failure and shortsightedness.
so you think that turkey foreign policy is a success ? if so there is no point in saying anything
 
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iran and syria and egypt and greece and libya i think even his own mother cant stand him

You should have said that from the beginning so I don't waste my time. Just say that you're of the other camp.

Saudi and king Salman have an even more extreme opinion of Iran and Syria. And add to them Iraq too. You have the same outward view as an Iranian, so don't talk to us like you would to an ally. Ok? group the GCC with Turkey.

About Greece and other countries related to the alleged Genocide, I can tell you that GCC countries and allies don't really give a damn, so is Egypt. You're just supporting the opposite side to spite Turkey.
 
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Yes, not all Muslims (also) agreed when Turks claimed the 'Caliphate' and conquered Egypt in the past.
I don't know and I don't care, too what religion you belong but I am sure this individual, Erdogan whom you call a 'clown' did and still do for Muslim Ummah much more than what you can achieve your whole life long as an individual.
I of course don't expect such a behavior from an Egyptian now but have some respect for a President whom a nation elected.

I wanna puke after reading your post.
I wonder how a person can be so stupid to call Erdogan and Turkish administration as democratically elected. It's unbelievable for me that how much brainwashed and stupid you are. Anyone with even half a brain cell who even slightly knows Turkey, knows that Turkey nowadays, is worse than former East Germany.
 
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I wanna puke after reading your post.
I wonder how a person can be so stupid to call Erdogan and Turkish administration as democratically elected. It's unbelievable for me that how much brainwashed and stupid you are. Anyone with even half a brain cell who even slightly knows Turkey, knows that Turkey nowadays, is worse than former East Germany.

Evident by how many tourists visit Turkey every year.

Shiite, just go fight for ASSad or something.
 
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Evident by how many tourists visit Turkey every year.

Shiite, just go fight for ASSad or something.

1. I am no Shia or Sunni.
2. Don't be that much emotional, Mr. Saudi. I understand you piss contests with Persians, shiites, ... but if you knew Erdogan, as half of what I know him, you would have understood that this MB prick is no true friend of your country either. If you had any brains, you would have read Mahmoud's comments more carefully.

PS. answer my question honestly. Are you part of Al-Saud dynasty(in any sort), or have anything to do with them? If not, I wanna ask you a question.
 
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You should have said that from the beginning so I don't waste my time. Just say that you're of the other camp.

Saudi and king Salman have an even more extreme opinion of Iran and Syria. And add to them Iraq too. You have the same outward view as an Iranian, so don't talk to us like you would to an ally. Ok? group the GCC with Turkey.

About Greece and other countries related to the alleged Genocide, I can tell you that GCC countries and allies don't really give a damn, so is Egypt. You're just supporting the opposite side to spite Turkey.
really you think the brotherhood dont want to rule in the gulf ? unless you are a brotherhood supporter you have a lot to understand about what is happening these days
 
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really you think the brotherhood dont want to rule in the gulf ? unless you are a brotherhood supporter you have a lot to understand about what is happening these days
I'm NOT a brotherhood supporter, but I'm not also a supporter of the military renegade dictatorship.

It's not an exclusive choice between the two, it's NOT a dichotomy. I would support any group that fights for what is right, like "Christians against the coup" for example, who your media called "Ikhwaan" if though they're Christians..

Ikhwan Ikhwan Ikhwan, everyone who stand against you is ikhwan, and whenever something goes bad in the country, it's "Ikhwan". ikhwan caused the ultras massacre, Ikhwan spilled the phosphate in the Nile. Even your president knew it's getting old, and started using "Ashraar" (Evil people) as an excuse for not telling Egyptians about the "secret" developments happening in Egypt. Is this how a president talks? seriously? evil people..




 
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[QUOTE="xenon54, post: 7166816, member: 147040"
Are you sure this number is legit? The biggest mosque in Turkey has a capacity of 28'000 people.[/QUOTE]

yes Faisal mosque have capacity of 74000 in the hall and 200000 in the adjacent ground of the mosque
 
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