Egypt's state prosecutor injured in bomb blast near Cairo

[Falcon29]

He must of went against protocol, this has fingerprints of internal assassination. It's work of the regime, probably because he couldn't get loopholes around legal process to give death penalties to brotherhood leaders.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

do you guys still think talibans are mujahid ? or changed ?

i never did Egyptian opinion about organizations like this is clear we are fighting isil in sainai and taking part in the fight against el houthi
we suffered from people like this since the 80s untill now

 

[Imran Khan]

i never did Egyptian opinion about organizations like this is clear we are fighting isil in sainai and taking part in the fight against el houthi
we suffered from people like this since the 80s untill now

they all are same and this is what i try my best to convene Arab members but for them Taliban are great Islamic warriors mujahedin and same groups in their own countries are terrorists in fact all are same .

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

they all are same and this is what i try my best to convene Arab members but for them Taliban are great Islamic warriors mujahedin and same groups in their own countries are terrorists in fact all are same .

if there are some who believe so i am not one of them i think it is 1 battle against extremists and i hope for all nations effected by it to unite and help each other

 

[mike2000 is back]

how can a forum policy agree for such a retarded comment , you lost your humanity by watching too much head slaughtering by your people in syria and now you are such an animal in the zoo

may he rest in peace he passed in ramadan while he was fasted

The syrian manslaughter and terrorist haven eldorado has indeed made him to lost it. No surprise there though, since syrians are now used to terrorism/death to the point that its become a casual thing.

 

[jamahir]

@Mahmoud_EGY what do you think ?? VVV

Saudia was against Muslim Brotherhood not their supporter.

saudia was a big supporter of hamas, which is just the palestine ( gaza ) branch of mb... and gaza is across the land border with egypt.

but can give me any link that suggests saudia not friendly with egypt's mb ??

And they are the biggest supporters of the current regime.

that is what is confusing to me... why would sisi act against mb on one hand but then shakes hands with saudia ??

Also Sisi is not consorting with turks, they have pretty bad relations right now.

i see.

While i don't support violence but as the saying goes jaisi kerni waisi bharni. He was a puppet of Sisi regime and after those controversial verdicts Egyptian judiciary has lost its legitimacy.

mb must be eliminated... simple as that.

BTW I am a Jamatia.

well sir, i can ask you to make your escape.

tableeghi-jamaat/deobandis have corrupted most indian muslims... let them not do that in pakistan too.

most terrorist/reactionary groups of "muslims" are born from the tableeghis.

and taking part in the fight against el houthi

egypt is being naive in fighting against the houthis.

 

[gau8av]

General Sisi needs to fast track the death sentence of terrorist leader Morsi and hang him and all his supporters asap or these jihadists will turn Egypt into another Syria or Libya.

 

[Sharpshooter12]

well sir, i can ask you to make your escape.

tableeghi-jamaat/deobandis have corrupted most indian muslims... let them not do that in pakistan too.

most terrorist/reactionary groups of "muslims" are born from the tableeghis.

Bro i was talking about Jammat e Islami, the ideological equivalent of Ikhwan in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. And i don't need to escape we are in good books of establishment here.

Saudia was never a supporter of Ikhwan, the royals know pretty well that a democratically elected Islamist government will be a disaster for their rule at home.

The Saudis were against Ikhwan from the start, as for the link you can search online and you will find plenty of them as it was clear to anyone following news in ME, but here is one that i found out through a quick search. Its basically talking about now that MB is weak Saudis are trying to warm to MB to counter Irani influence as there is a Muslim Brotherhood in Yemen and while it is not the strongest party there but it still has a lot of support in Yemenis and if i remember correctly they were part of the Hadi government. Saudis Warm to Muslim Brotherhood, Seeking Sunni Unity on Yemen - WSJ

Yes ME right now is the most confusing IR subject. Here is a funny look at the relations between the states there. This image is a couple of years old and somethings have changed but its still fun to read.

Ikhwan (Egypt), Hamas(Palestine), Jamat e Islami (Sub-Continent), Ennahda(Tunisia), Welfare Party (Now banned in Turkey but Erdogan belonged to it before creating AKP) and many others in Islamic world share the same ideology, so you will see MB supporting Hamas and Erdogan taking such a firm stand against Sisi even when such a stand is being seen negatively by majority of his own countrymen.

BTW why are you so against Ikhwan when they were democratically elected and why are you in favor of a dictator. Don't tell me he is elected, so were Husni Mubarak, Saddam, Assad, Musharaf and Zia.

 

[Hell NO]

Rest in peace? Ah I guess him co-operating with Sisi to sentence a few hundred innocents to death is "rest in peace."
Mubarak killed a few hundred people + massive corruption = Acquitted
Morsi had a terrible policy, but no corruption and no killing = sentenced to death
I don't support the "head slaughtering." But just beware, the tyrannical government will cater for groups like ISIS who will gain power in Egypt due to Sisi's dictatorial rule. Sinai is perfect example.

Apparently the "Giza Popular Resistance of Masr" claimed the attack. Should've been more careful with the targeting if they want to be popular.

Well who are you to decide who is Innocent who is not who should be killed and who shouldnt be and based on what exactly are you making these judgments. Have you seen the evidence or do you even know why they where sentenced to death???? The answer is no so why are you saying they were innocent how did you know???? Firstly he wasn't the judge so he didn't sentence them to death he was the general prosecuter.
mubarak: the case of the killing of protestors no one could prove that he gave orders to kill protestors so he was sentenced to 20 years in prison for not protecting the protestors and he was later Acquitted in a retrial (let's wait and see what happens in Morsi's retrial)+ and their is a retrial taking place + mubarak was sentenced for corruption.
Morsi leaked a top secret documents without permission+ planed a massive prison break which killed tens of policemen= why he was sentenced to death.
Wishing a civil war to get rid of a regime you don't like is like cutting a person's head off to cure him from headache + where did your civil war get you after 4 years do you think bringing assad down would be the end of the civil war take libya removed muammar gaddafi in one year still in civil war till now so for Syria if you removed assad this year it would take you around another 25 years of civil war or maybe like Afghanistan never but I think that wouldn't effect you in America. nasser was right when he said that the MBs can only see the chair they don't care what the consequences are.
you don't what is happening in the sinia so don't talk about what is happening there.
peace

 

[Hell NO]

He must of went against protocol, this has fingerprints of internal assassination. It's work of the regime, probably because he couldn't get loopholes around legal process to give death penalties to brotherhood leaders.

you were making fun of akasha and you have the same mentality

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

@Mahmoud_EGY what do you think ?? VVV



saudia was a big supporter of hamas, which is just the palestine ( gaza ) branch of mb... and gaza is across the land border with egypt.

but can give me any link that suggests saudia not friendly with egypt's mb ??



that is what is confusing to me... why would sisi act against mb on one hand but then shakes hands with saudia ??



i see.



mb must be eliminated... simple as that.



well sir, i can ask you to make your escape.

tableeghi-jamaat/deobandis have corrupted most indian muslims... let them not do that in pakistan too.

most terrorist/reactionary groups of "muslims" are born from the tableeghis.



egypt is being naive in fighting against the houthis.

about the war on houthi my opinion is extremists sunni or shia need to be gone from the middle east and no good can come from a militia claiming to fight for a religion history tell us that

 

[jamahir]

Bro i was talking about Jammat e Islami, the ideological equivalent of Ikhwan in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.

Ikhwan (Egypt), Hamas(Palestine), Jamat e Islami (Sub-Continent), Ennahda(Tunisia), Welfare Party (Now banned in Turkey but Erdogan belonged to it before creating AKP) and many others in Islamic world share the same ideology,

then you will know that the ikhwaan of north africa and syria derives its ideology from the jamaat-e-islami of maududi... well, the original ikhwaan got influenced by maududi's thought.

in fact, there are three streams of reactionary thought from south asia...

(a). jamaat-e-islami, which led to modification of the egyptian ikhwaanis which in turn led to them becoming more militarized and leading to them doing terrorist activities from africa ( egypt, algeria, libya ) to west asia ( syria, palestine )... they were also contributors to the later group, qaeda.

(b). tableeghi jamaat, whose output was formation of terrorist groups like hizb-ut-tahrir, jemah islamiya, boko haram, al-shabaab etc.

both these groups contributed to terrorist groups like fsa, ntc and nusra.

(c). ayatollahi reactionary ideology from khomenei iran ( i consider iran to be in south asia )... the output of this is directly in groups like hamas and "islamic jihad" and indirectly to groups like ntc and even more indirectly to strife in the muslim world.

And i don't need to escape we are in good books of establishment here.

why spoil your life ??

Saudia was never a supporter of Ikhwan, the royals know pretty well that a democratically elected Islamist government will be a disaster for their rule at home.

but palestinian ikhwaan, the hamas group, is being hugely funded by saudia and hamas by western government definitions is a "democratically elected government".

Yes ME right now is the most confusing IR subject. Here is a funny look at the relations between the states there. This image is a couple of years old and somethings have changed but its still fun to read.
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it is generally correct, and funny.

BTW why are you so against Ikhwan when they were democratically elected and why are you in favor of a dictator. Don't tell me he is elected, so were Husni Mubarak, Saddam, Assad, Musharaf and Zia.

morsi being a reactionary muslim was always a nato puppet... in fact, he was installed into egypt presidentship just like how hamas was put into power in gaza by the "quartet" in 2007 via "democratic elections".

and rather soon, morsi was made chairman of the now-failed "non-aligned movement", which is funny considering how morsi and the egyptian ikhwaan were great supporters of nato regime-change in libya and syria.

here is a white house puppet writing lovingly about morsi for a white house connected website ( Morsy Is the Arab World’s Mandela | Foreign Policy ).

but sisi... sisi is being naive in connecting with nato in which ever level, military imports or not supporting al-assad.

about the war on houthi my opinion is extremists sunni or shia need to be gone from the middle east and no good can come from a militia claiming to fight for a religion history tell us that

you are correct of course and to be honest, i based my opinion of houthis on two things, (a). saudi and nato actions against them, (b). a photo of a houthi fighter carrying a photo of muammar gaddafi.

but do you know of articles that speak of the houthis being reactionary ??

also, where are the left-wing yemenis ?? what is the stand on this war ??

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

[QUOTEin="jamahir, post: 7331613, member: 158857"]




you are correct of course and to be honest, i based my opinion of houthis on two things, (a). saudi and nato actions against them, (b). a photo of a houthi fighter carrying a photo of muammar gaddafi.

but do you know of articles that speak of the houthis being reactionary ??

also, where are the left-wing yemenis ?? what is the stand on this war ??[/QUOTE]
in yeman it is hard to tell truth from propaganda from both sides so we base our opinions on facts and the fact is el houthi is a shia militia not a yemani militia just like the so called syrian rebels the seculars only do news interviews while the fighting is between syrian army and extremest islamists militias
by the way nato role to fight el houthi is nothing but words i have not seen any real action against them by nato
the left wing in yeman have no weapons in times like this that means they matter little because sadly in yeman syria libya nothing is achieved without force

 

[Sharpshooter12]

(a). jamaat-e-islami, which led to modification of the egyptian ikhwaanis which in turn led to them becoming more militarized and leading to them doing terrorist activities from africa ( egypt, algeria, libya ) to west asia ( syria, palestine )... they were also contributors to the later group, qaeda.

I partially agree with you on this, Maulana Madudi's teaching were part of the Ikhwani literature as Hassan al Bana's teaching are part of Jammat's literature, so yes they both affect each other. I disagree with you that it led to them becoming more militarized.

Syed Madudi clearly said that any underground movement or toppling of sitting government by force might bring Islamic revolution for the time being but that will not last, its the minds of the people that you need to change to bring a lasting change in the society.

So all these movements believe in democratic change. Ikhwan waited for so long for this to happen and they won the majority when the first democratic election were conducted in Egypt, no one can deny that. But after only a couple of years being in power they were thrown out in a coup and are being ruthlessly persecuted by a dictator, and you think still Muslim Brotherhood is to be blamed.

Regarding your comment that MB or Syed Madudi's teachings contributing to Al-Qaida, i beg to disagree. It is often reported that Al-Zawahri and Osama were inspired by Syed Qutub's teachings. While Syed Qutub made the concept of Islam and Jahaliya or the ignorant indulgence in the material world, and preached struggle to create an Islamic system, he never mentioned declaring war on all of the west and then doing barbaric acts like 9/11 which will not only kill innocents but will also bring more harm to the Islamic world than to the enemy. Presence of US forces in KSA was Al-Qaeda's main grievance and it could have been avoided had some thought was put into rehabilitating Arab fighters after Soviet-Afghan war.

You said that Morsi was installed by quartet so you think that MB won that election because of some systematic rigging? That's hard to believe as those elections were thought to be generally fair. Do you have any proof like some neutral article or news story? An article written in favor of him in Foreign Policy magazine is hardly a proof. Everybody likes a democratically elected president of a country which has suffered decades of dictatorship. If he was a Nato puppet and thats why Sisi rightly removed him then do you think Sisi is the knight with shinning armor that will stand up to Nato, he won't.

 

[Dr.Thrax]

Well who are you to decide who is Innocent who is not who should be killed and who shouldnt be and based on what exactly are you making these judgments. Have you seen the evidence or do you even know why they where sentenced to death???? The answer is no so why are you saying they were innocent how did you know???? Firstly he wasn't the judge so he didn't sentence them to death he was the general prosecuter.
mubarak: the case of the killing of protestors no one could prove that he gave orders to kill protestors so he was sentenced to 20 years in prison for not protecting the protestors and he was later Acquitted in a retrial (let's wait and see what happens in Morsi's retrial)+ and their is a retrial taking place + mubarak was sentenced for corruption.
Morsi leaked a top secret documents without permission+ planed a massive prison break which killed tens of policemen= why he was sentenced to death.
Wishing a civil war to get rid of a regime you don't like is like cutting a person's head off to cure him from headache + where did your civil war get you after 4 years do you think bringing assad down would be the end of the civil war take libya removed muammar gaddafi in one year still in civil war till now so for Syria if you removed assad this year it would take you around another 25 years of civil war or maybe like Afghanistan never but I think that wouldn't effect you in America. nasser was right when he said that the MBs can only see the chair they don't care what the consequences are.
you don't what is happening in the sinia so don't talk about what is happening there.
peace

So you're telling me unarmed protesters are not innocent?
This is why dictator supporters like you need to die. You'll justify any death all for the sake of a guy who could care less about you. Some of the evidence used against them was that they "assaulted lawyers in a protest" even though the lawyers never came out and spoke. Some evidence used against AJ journalists for example was a horse riding through a field. If that's the credibility Egyptian courts have, what credibility does the government have? 0.
The people killed in the Ra'ba massacre were innocent. Let's say half of them were not innocent. Sisi still killed 600 innocents. Lets say 75% were not innocent. Sisi still killed 300 innocents.
Except, 99% were innocent. Sisi killed 1,200 innocents.
I don't wish a civil war. The Egyptian Army holds 62% of Egypt's assets. There is no way on this planet they will give up their power for the people.
Oh, Sisi destroying the houses of civilians near the Gaza border in order to prevent them from smuggling aid to Gazans in need = Combating terrorism? Okay.
Have fun worshiping a dictator.