Egypt cuts all relations with Syrian Gov

[Doritos11]

Are you blind or something ? where did I bring up ethnicity ?

I said this will be an " alliance " not a union between various countries .

as for the case of morroco , a few years ago they cut their relations with iran as a result of iran's comments on bahrain

BBC NEWS | Africa | Morocco cuts relations with Iran


As I said this alliance is based on " Political , Economic and Mutual Interests " it has nothing to do with " ethnicity " .

Suffering from Alzheimer's ?
Same thread, few pages back a few hours ago.

 

[mahatir]

Stop constantly trying to divide the Arab world. Where you not an Pan-Arab yourself? Are you even an Arab yourself? Did you not write on this forum that you have Turkmen ancestry? This means that you are from Northern Iraq. Probably around Kirkuk or have ties there. Not fully Arab unlike most Iraqis.

80 % of all people in Iraq are Arabs or at least all of those 80 % have Arab ancestry. Some more than others. All famous Arab tribes inhabit Iraq and have great importance. Whole cities in Iraq where founded by Arabs. Your two biggest cities Baghdad and Basra where founded by Arabs. Your fellow Shia Iraqis holiest cities, Najaf and Karbala where founded by us Arabs. Samawa, Ramadi, Fallujah etc. I could go on. You speak Arabic. Your religion is Islam. Hell, the Arabs have a 3000 year old presence in Iraq. Way before Islam came. One of your 4 World UNESCO Heritage Sites is Hatra built by ancient Arabs. The Lakhmids ruled over whole of Southern Iraq for centuries before Islam came. A Christian Arab kingdom. The Lakhmids came from Yemen originally. Just 120 years ago 50 % of your population where Arab Bedouins. You can find Arab and Iraqi sources on that.

Most importantly before even Arabs came to existence we were all Semitic people. Iraq is Semitic land not Indo-Iranian, Turkic, Mongolian or Negroid.

Here you can see the frequency of the Haplogroup J-P209 that originated on the Arabian Peninsula. The map is far from precise since the haplogroup is much more widespread in North Africa where about 33% of all people have it some areas even 66%. It is the most frequent haplogroup in North Africa, Horn of Africa, the Arab world and the Arabian Peninsula and surprisingly the Caucasus. It is very popular in Iran and Turkey too and large parts of Southern Europe. Especially the Iberian Peninsula that was ruled by Arabs for 800 years, Southern Italy, Greece and parts of the Balkan.



Now, all Arab countries in the Middle East, Sunni Arab countries, share a fellow Arab, Semitic, Muslim and tribal connection since ancient times. Egypt included which is a neighboring country of Palestine, KSA and Jordan. Egytpians are very closely related to Hejazis. Even the dialect of Arabic. Libya is an Arab country with Arab tribes living there. They even speak an Arabic dialect that is close to Najdi Arabic. Tunisia is an Arabic country too. Sure some have Berber ancestry but so what? They regard themselves as Arabs now and all of them have Arab or partial Arab ancestry. Their language is Arabic, culture is Arabic, food and their religion is Islam.

Algeria and Morococo are Arab-Berber, Berber-Arabs who speak Arabic, have Arab culture, who are fellow Muslims etc. I mean I have the least ties to Morocco and Algeria of all Arab countries and regions - since they are most far away and I have never been there but Morocco could be in a political/economic Union without problems.

Now, don't force me to repeat myself in other threads.

Hassani Algeria, Iraq and Lebanon would be a burden on us , Just having Egypt "sudan follows egypt to " Morroco and Jordan is enough for the GCC along with close relations with yemen and of-course libya after gadaffi got kicked out .

the remaining countries are Algeria , Lebanon and Iraq I would never accept to inter-act with them , we should have cut all relations with them long time ago .

Suffering from Alzheimer's ?
Same thread, few pages back a few hours ago.

man I feel your getting angry when other countries get along , simply your isolation is better for you and us , no one wants you in this region .

 

[Doritos11]

Stop constantly trying to divide the Arab world. Where you not an Pan-Arab yourself? Are you even an Arab yourself? Did you not write on this forum that you have Turkmen ancestry? This means that you are from Northern Iraq. Probably around Kirkuk or have ties there. Not fully Arab unlike most Iraqis.

80 % of all people in Iraq are Arabs or at least all of those 80 % have Arab ancestry. Some more than others. All famous Arab tribes inhabit Iraq and have great importance. Whole cities in Iraq where founded by Arabs. Your two biggest cities Baghdad and Basra where founded by Arabs. Your fellow Shia Iraqis holiest cities, Najaf and Karbala where founded by us Arabs. Samawa, Ramadi, Fallujah etc. I could go on. You speak Arabic. Your religion is Islam. Hell, the Arabs have a 3000 year old presence in Iraq. Way before Islam came. One of your 4 World UNESCO Heritage Sites is Hatra built by ancient Arabs. The Lakhmids ruled over whole of Southern Iraq for centuries before Islam came. A Christian Arab kingdom. The Lakhmids came from Yemen originally. Just 120 years ago 50 % of your population where Arab Bedouins. You can find Arab and Iraqi sources on that.

Most importantly before even Arabs came to existence we were all Semitic people. Iraq is Semitic land not Indo-Iranian, Turkic, Mongolian or Negroid.

Here you can see the frequency of the Haplogroup J-P209 that originated on the Arabian Peninsula. The map is far from precise since the haplogroup is much more widespread in North Africa where about 33% of all people have it some areas even 66%. It is the most frequent haplogroup in North Africa, Horn of Africa, the Arab world and the Arabian Peninsula and surprisingly the Caucasus. It is very popular in Iran and Turkey too and large parts of Southern Europe. Especially the Iberian Peninsula that was ruled by Arabs for 800 years, Southern Italy, Greece and parts of the Balkan.



So spare me the "not related bullshit" because it is not true. We are even related to non-Arabs in the region and non-Semitic people so of course we are related to fellow Arabs, neighbors and fellow Semitic people!!!!!! That should be clear for all!

Now, all Arab countries in the Middle East, Sunni Arab countries, share a fellow Arab, Semitic, Muslim and tribal connection since ancient times. Egypt included which is a neighboring country of Palestine, KSA and Jordan. Egytpians are very closely related to Hejazis. Even the dialect of Arabic. Libya is an Arab country with Arab tribes living there. They even speak an Arabic dialect that is close to Najdi Arabic. Tunisia is an Arabic country too. Sure some have Berber ancestry but so what? They regard themselves as Arabs now and all of them have Arab or partial Arab ancestry. Their language is Arabic, culture is Arabic, food and their religion is Islam.

Algeria and Morococo are Arab-Berber, Berber-Arabs who speak Arabic, have Arab culture, who are fellow Muslims etc. I mean I have the least ties to Morocco and Algeria of all Arab countries and regions - since they are most far away and I have never been there but Morocco could be in a political/economic Union without problems.

Now, don't force me to repeat myself in other threads.

Correct, only the idea of all Arabs in each country and region being exactly from the same ancestry/ethnicity does not sound right to me, only by looking at them they all look different, studies prove the same.

Besides you do not have to type so much as always, these cities in Iraq have been founded in the time of the Islamic caliphates though that does not mean that these are the first cities, they are simply new names establishing cities on the sites where the former city was destroyed.
For example Ctesiphon - Baghdad.

The Arab world has been untited under religion though never on Arabism itself, so many countries still we all are divided through many things.
Dialects, culture.
Dude, culture of N africa and the ME is not the same, Moroccans and Saudis have a different culture.

Besides this is not dividing the Arab world, I am not dividing anything, this Mahatir actually loves dividing, I oppose all division anywhere.
We must accept that Arab countries share differences.

 

[al-Hasani]

Hassani Algeria, Iraq and Lebanon would be a burden on us , Just having Egypt "sudan follows egypt to " Morroco and Jordan is enough for the GCC along with close relations with yemen and of-course libya after gadaffi got kicked out .

the remaining countries are Algeria , Lebanon and Iraq I would never accept to inter-act with them , we should have cut all relations with them long time ago .

You are solely talking about politics now which is not what I was referring to. Aside from that politics changes. 25 years ago Iraq was an ally. 33% of the population are Sunni Arabs with great ties to us fellow Sunni Arabs. You even told us about knowing several Iraqi Sunni Arabs that live in the UAE. That is correct because there are nearly 200.000 of them. I think you mentioned Anbaris.

What is wrong with Lebanon? Great country. A popular destination for our people and all Arabs.

Algeria? Well, that Berber dwarf is in power but most Algerians, aside from our Berber lunatic here, are not hostile to the Arab world in fact the majority are Arabs or at least Arab-Berbers.

Cutting relations is not a wise thing. UAE is a big investor in Iraq. You know this already. We know where to draw the line and who our enemies are. An Iraqi from Basra, Ramadi or Baghdad (towns founded by our ancestors) is not an enemy. Their government might be.

Same with Iran although many Iranians are anti-Arabs. But a lot are not. So let us stop the paranoia for once. I know that the Syrian conflict is painful for us to watch and especially when we have Iranian trolls gloryfing the death of Arabs as one member did whom I countered and got banned for 1 week for while he left unescaped. The morons name is Feyen so keep a close eye on him if he is not banned.

 

[Doritos11]

man I feel your getting angry when other countries get along , simply your isolation is better for you and us , no one wants you in this region .

Eh, shut up asian.

 

[mahatir]

Eh, shut up asian.

habiby I am half Arab and proud of my arab heritage , unlike you persian , dont even associate yourself with us .

 

[Doritos11]

habiby I am half Arab and proud of my arab heritage , unlike you persian , dont even associate yourself with us .

That says it all , your Asian yalla barra.

 

[mahatir]

You are solely talking about politics now which is not what I was referring to. Aside from that politics changes. 25 years ago Iraq was an ally. 33% of the population are Sunni Arabs with great ties to us fellow Sunni Arabs. You even told us about knowing several Iraqi Sunni Arabs that live in the UAE. That is correct because there are nearly 200.000 of them. I think you mentioned Anbaris.

What is wrong with Lebanon? Great country. A popular destination for our people and all Arabs.

Algeria? Well, that Berber dwarf is in power but most Algerians, aside from our Berber lunatic here, are not hostile to the Arab world in fact the majority are Arabs or at least Arab-Berbers.

Cutting relations is not a wise thing. UAE is a big investor in Iraq. You know this already. We know where to draw the line and who our enemies are. An Iraqi from Basra, Ramadi or Baghdad (towns founded by our ancestors) is not an enemy. Their government might be.

Same with Iran although many Iranians are anti-Arabs. But a lot are not. So let us stop the paranoia for once. I know that the Syrian conflict is painful for us to watch and especially when we have Iranian trolls gloryfing the death of Arabs as one member did whom I countered and got banned for 1 week for while he left unescaped. The morons name is Feyen so keep a close eye on him if he is not banned.

Iraq will be partitioned again , the Sunni part will Just be an extention to Saudi Arabia as for the other clowns there , Just we should imagine they dont even exist and ignore them , not worth even talking to them .

I am more of a focused person , I prefer having something small and effective rather than big and ineffective . All of the GCC effort should be directed Towards Egypt , Jordan , Sudan and Morroco , these countries are much closer to us politically and Economically than the rest , integrating them within the GCC would add a lot to us , as for the rest not really needed, come on man its only lebanon and iraq who gives a crap about them .

Iraq is more like the old man of the middle east , the north is already separated under kurdish rule and central iraq will soon get its own independence, when central iraq is free then they will directly join the GCC , as for the south I dont even want to have anything to do with them .

specialization is better than emotions , Trust me Lebanese " regardless of their background " and Iraqis are not part of us " with the exception of Iraq arab sunni tribes ofcourse " .

That says it all , your Asian yalla barra.

yal bortokalla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPaC5bJoEQ

 

[al-Hasani]

You are just discussing semantics right now Doritos11 because you know I am right with the vast majority I just wrote to you. Of course there are differences in dialect. There are even great differences within KSA alone. Iraq etc. for God's sake. Still the same language, religion, Arab culture, Semitic past, ancestry, tribes.

What you or I find believable or not is completely irrelevant. The genetics I posted do not lie and do not care about agenda, politics etc. Just like your blood type etc.

Yes, but those cities were extinct and long gone. The current ones where built and inhabited by Arabs. Who are you kidding. 80 % of all Iraqis are Arabs or at least have partial Arab ancestry. Some more than others as I already wrote. Just visit Samawa, Ramadi, Fallujah, Najaf, Basra, Karbala etc. and go over the border to KSA, Kuwait, Syria or Jordan. No difference at all. Just dialect or sect and some other small customs. Just 100 years ago there were not even any borders and people moved freely to make the matter even more complicated.

I am saying that there are clear points of unity. The most important such as language, culture, religion, land, ancestry, fellow tribes, Semitic past etc. If Europeans who are from completely different ethnic, linguistic, religious (sects), geographical and cultural (much, much, much bigger differences) then surely we Sunni Arabs can unite which the vast majority of all normal Arabs can. Only the governments. There are 1000 of examples of that.

I already told you that Morocco and Algeria are Arab-Berber countries. Meaning that they are a mixture of Berbers and Arabs. They are the least tied Arab countries to us Middle Easterners. Already told that. Still they share the same religion, language, culture to a great extent and some are genuine Arabs/Semitics while the rest surely have Arab ancestry somewhere down the line. Genetics at least prove that.

I already wrote to Mahatir that I am against cutting all ties to fellow Arab or Muslim countries.

Also he was only talking about a political/economic union while you were trying to fine small divisions that exists everywhere. Even in families. Let alone non-Arabs.

Going by your logic then Iraq should be separated in 3 or more states. The Maslawis are mostly Sunni Arabs and speak the "Mesopotamian" Iraqi Arabic version and are Sunni Muslims and live in steppes. The Anbaris are Sunni Arabs who live mainly in desert areas with a different dialect too. Baghdadis are also different. Those who live in Karbala and Najaf (desert areas too) are Shia Arabs and also different.

Or what about Basrawis who live 1000 km south of Mosul and have a different sect, customes, dialect etc. But you still call them Iraqis or Iraqi Arabs.

Such small and largely insignificant differences are found in most big countries.

Also I am sorry to say this to you, since you seem against this even as a Sunni, but us Sunni Arabs have largely a united stance on nearly everything. If we exclude Algeria. For so many countries that is truly a unique and wonderful thing.

Now let us return to the topic and not petty discussions.

 

[mahatir]

You are solely talking about politics now which is not what I was referring to. Aside from that politics changes. 25 years ago Iraq was an ally. 33% of the population are Sunni Arabs with great ties to us fellow Sunni Arabs. You even told us about knowing several Iraqi Sunni Arabs that live in the UAE. That is correct because there are nearly 200.000 of them. I think you mentioned Anbaris.

What is wrong with Lebanon? Great country. A popular destination for our people and all Arabs.

Algeria? Well, that Berber dwarf is in power but most Algerians, aside from our Berber lunatic here, are not hostile to the Arab world in fact the majority are Arabs or at least Arab-Berbers.

Cutting relations is not a wise thing. UAE is a big investor in Iraq. You know this already. We know where to draw the line and who our enemies are. An Iraqi from Basra, Ramadi or Baghdad (towns founded by our ancestors) is not an enemy. Their government might be.

Same with Iran although many Iranians are anti-Arabs. But a lot are not. So let us stop the paranoia for once. I know that the Syrian conflict is painful for us to watch and especially when we have Iranian trolls gloryfing the death of Arabs as one member did whom I countered and got banned for 1 week for while he left unescaped. The morons name is Feyen so keep a close eye on him if he is not banned.

What makes an Alliance strong and encourages further Integration among Gcc countries and create closer links with our partners like Jordan and Egypt is by having a common threat or enemy .

In this case Iran fits the bill , infact I love their rogue behaviour because this is what makes GCC integration work faster , Just like how bahrain recently became a de-facto state of saudi arabia .

 

[Doritos11]

You are just discussing semantics right now Doritos11 because you know I am right with the vast majority I just wrote to you. Of course there are differences in dialect. There are even great differences within KSA alone. Iraq etc. for God's sake. Still the same language, religion, Arab culture, Semitic past, ancestry, tribes.

What you or I find believable or not is completely irrelevant. The genetics I posted do not lie and do not care about agenda, politics etc. Just like your blood type etc.

Yes, but those cities were extinct and long gone. The current ones where built and inhabited by Arabs. Who are you kidding. 80 % of all Iraqis are Arabs or at least have partial Arab ancestry. Some more than others as I already wrote. Just visit Samawa, Ramadi, Fallujah, Najaf, Basra, Karbala etc. and go over the border to KSA, Kuwait, Syria or Jordan. No difference at all. Just dialect or sect and some other small customs. Just 100 years ago there were not even any borders and people moved freely to make the matter even more complicated.

I am saying that there are clear points of unity. The most important such as language, culture, religion, land, ancestry, fellow tribes, Semitic past etc. If Europeans who are from completely different ethnic, linguistic, religious (sects), geographical and cultural (much, much, much bigger differences) then surely we Sunni Arabs can unite which the vast majority of all normal Arabs can. Only the governments. There are 1000 of examples of that.

I already told you that Morocco and Algeria are Arab-Berber countries. Meaning that they are a mixture of Berbers and Arabs. They are the least tied Arab countries to us Middle Easterners. Already told that. Still they share the same religion, language, culture to a great extent and some are genuine Arabs/Semitics while the rest surely have Arab ancestry somewhere down the line. Genetics at least prove that.

I already wrote to Mahatir that I am against cutting all ties to fellow Arab or Muslim countries.

Also he was only talking about a political/economic union while you were trying to fine small divisions that exists everywhere. Even in families. Let alone non-Arabs.

Going by your logic then Iraq should be separated in 3 or more states. The Maslawis are mostly Sunni Arabs and speak the "Mesopotamian" Iraqi Arabic version and are Sunni Muslims and live in steppes. The Anbaris are Sunni Arabs who live mainly in desert areas with a different dialect too. Baghdadis are also different. Those who live in Karbala and Najaf (desert areas too) are Shia Arabs and also different.

Or what about Basrawis who live 1000 km south of Mosul and have a different sect, customes, dialect etc. But you still call them Iraqis or Iraqi Arabs.

Such small and largely insignificant differences are found in most big countries.

Also I am sorry to say this to you, since you seem against this even as a Sunni, but us Sunni Arabs have largely a united stance on nearly everything. If we exclude Algeria. For so many countries that is truly a unique and wonderful thing.

Now let us return to the topic and not petty discussions.

I do not really disagree, my stance would be different depending on how my country is involved, it is stupid for us to start hating countries based on our governments.
Only looking at some of the people here they simply want to destroy nations for minor things while they know little about the country itself.
For example the hate on shias here goes way beyond reality, some cannot wait to execute every shia just by looking at the Syria thread.
This guy mahatir talks about dividing a nation, not knowing about major civil wars that will occur killing atleast 1 million people.
Iraq was mostly based on the region Mesopotamia and its ancient empires, so I know what you mean with Baghdad-Basra-Mosul difference, there are many differences in the ME considering all the history.

I have no problem with a united Arab world, only theres no need to say that we are all the same, a state based on ethnicity will fail anyway if it has such a big landmass & minorities.

 

[al-Hasani]

What makes an Alliance strong and encourages further Integration among Gcc countries and create closer links with our partners like Jordan and Egypt is by having a common threat or enemy .

In this case Iran fits the bill , infact I love their rogue behaviour because this is what makes GCC integration work faster , Just like how bahrain recently became a de-facto state of saudi arabia .

Yes, but there will be a time when we will face another enemy and then what? Jordan is already fully integrated. GCC is just a political union made by rulers and not our people. What matters is the relations between common people. Thousands of Arabs study in Jordan or have been there. Over half of the Jordanians are Arabians who settled in Jordan not long ago. I mean Egypt is just across the Red Sea. If I was not exposed to Kuwaiti comedies, Gulf Arabic in the TV or elsewhere then I would understand Egyptian Arabic more because it is closer to Hejazi Arabic. The Sinai Peninsula is very similar to parts of Hejaz. Even the landscape. No wonder when it borders Hejaz. Same with other areas of Egypt. Same with Syria which also is really close.

The GCC is solely a political/economical movement. Yemen is not part of it while we all know that Yemen and KSA are very tied in all matters. Same with UAE. From what I know of then most Emirati Arabs trace their ancestry to Yemen or KSA. 8-10 players in the UAE football team that won the Gulf Cup were children of Yemeni parents or had ancestral ties to Yemen.

Including your best player Omar Abdulrahman, btw I hope that he will be sold to a top club in Europe we need an Arab football star

Omar Abdulrahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I and most Hejazis have more in common (if we are discussing semantics here) on many fronts with Yemenis, Najdis, Levantine Arabs, especially Jordanians and Syrians and to a smaller extent Palestinians, and Egyptians than let us say Qataris 2000 km away or Bahrainis. But all those countries are not yet part of the GCC while Qatar and Bahrain are.

I get the Bahraini thing etc. and I probably know what you are trying to point out. But for me and most Arabs even those living in GCC it is not only about the GCC.

Right now we see Sunni Arab movements and cooperation outside of the GCC. But sure I have great hopes for the GCC in the future. But let us wait and see. Right now KSA have our problems to look after and I am sure UAE have them too.

 

[mahatir]

Yes, but there will be a time when we will face another enemy and then what? Jordan is already fully integrated. GCC is just a political union made by rulers and not our people. What matters is the relations between common people. Thousands of Arabs study in Jordan or have been there. Over half of the Jordanians are Arabians who settled in Jordan not long ago. I mean Egypt is just across the Red Sea. If I was not exposed to Kuwaiti comedies, Gulf Arabic in the TV or elsewhere then I would understand Egyptian Arabic more because it is closer to Hejazi Arabic. The Sinai Peninsula is very similar to parts of Hejaz. Even the landscape. No wonder when it borders Hejaz. Same with other areas of Egypt. Same with Syria which also is really close.

The GCC is solely a political/economical movement. Yemen is not part of it while we all know that Yemen and KSA are very tied in all matters. Same with UAE. From what I know of then most Emirati Arabs trace their ancestry to Yemen or KSA. 8-10 players in the UAE football team that won the Gulf Cup were children of Yemeni parents or had ancestral ties to Yemen.

Including your best player Omar Abdulrahman, btw I hope that he will be sold to a top club in Europe we need an Arab football star

Omar Abdulrahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I and most Hejazis have more in common (if we are discussing semantics here) with Yemenis, Najdis, Levantine Arabs and Egyptians than let us say Qataris 2000 km away or Bahrainis. But both those countries are now part of the GCC.

I get the Bahraini thing etc. and I probably know what you are trying to point out. But for me and most Arabs even those living in GCC it is not only about the GCC.

Right now we see Sunni Arab movements and cooperation outside of the GCC. But sure I have great hopes for the GCC in the future. But let us wait and see. Right now KSA have our problems to look after and I am sure UAE have them too.

Political union is also what brings people closer , because the countries private and government media including intellectuals , influencial clerks , politicians and elites will promote closer people to people ties .

Remember media could make you hate a certain country or support another , Just with the case of Al-jazeera it did play a big role in Turning Egyptians against hosni mubarak .

People to People relations has always been good and we all want more integration and unity at least among GCC , Egypt and Jordan .

Yes Yemen is the homeland of Arabs , but I already regard yemen as a de-facto member , they already join many sports and cultural activities related to GCC .

The thing here is when you create a functioning small unity of Arab states then others will start asking to join in , this is how the European union started by only france , Germany and Italy, then others asked to join them in .

What I see is we work slowly to achieve this goal , concentrate on those who are closer to us like Egypt and Jordan first , these countries need to be supported in every way possible be it financially or politically to increase the pace of integration .

I am glad of what Qatar and Saudi Arabia did with Egypt after its revolution , this is the kind of steps that is needed financially supporting our close allies when they are in trouble.

Yes, but there will be a time when we will face another enemy and then what? Jordan is already fully integrated. GCC is just a political union made by rulers and not our people. What matters is the relations between common people. Thousands of Arabs study in Jordan or have been there. Over half of the Jordanians are Arabians who settled in Jordan not long ago. I mean Egypt is just across the Red Sea. If I was not exposed to Kuwaiti comedies, Gulf Arabic in the TV or elsewhere then I would understand Egyptian Arabic more because it is closer to Hejazi Arabic. The Sinai Peninsula is very similar to parts of Hejaz. Even the landscape. No wonder when it borders Hejaz. Same with other areas of Egypt. Same with Syria which also is really close.

The GCC is solely a political/economical movement. Yemen is not part of it while we all know that Yemen and KSA are very tied in all matters. Same with UAE. From what I know of then most Emirati Arabs trace their ancestry to Yemen or KSA. 8-10 players in the UAE football team that won the Gulf Cup were children of Yemeni parents or had ancestral ties to Yemen.

Including your best player Omar Abdulrahman, btw I hope that he will be sold to a top club in Europe we need an Arab football star

Omar Abdulrahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I and most Hejazis have more in common (if we are discussing semantics here) on many fronts with Yemenis, Najdis, Levantine Arabs, especially Jordanians and Syrians and to a smaller extent Palestinians, and Egyptians than let us say Qataris 2000 km away or Bahrainis. But all those countries are not yet part of the GCC while Qatar and Bahrain are.

I get the Bahraini thing etc. and I probably know what you are trying to point out. But for me and most Arabs even those living in GCC it is not only about the GCC.

Right now we see Sunni Arab movements and cooperation outside of the GCC. But sure I have great hopes for the GCC in the future. But let us wait and see. Right now KSA have our problems to look after and I am sure UAE have them too.

People in southern Egypt , " sa3ayda " share the same dialect as Hijazi Arabs this is true, most of them are descendants of Arabs tribes whom immigrated there.

 

[al-Hasani]

Political union is also what brings people closer , because the countries private and government media including intellectuals , influencial clerks , politicians and elites will promote closer people to people ties .

Remember media could make you hate a certain country or support another , Just with the case of Al-jazeera it did play a big role in Turning Egyptians against hosni mubarak .

People to People relations has always been good and we all want more integration and unity at least among GCC , Egypt and Jordan .

Yes Yemen is the homeland of Arabs , but I already regard yemen as a de-facto member , they already join many sports and cultural activities related to GCC .

The thing here is when you create a functioning small unity of Arab states then others will start asking to join in , this is how the European union started by only france , Germany and Italy, then others asked to join them in .

What I see is we work slowly to achieve this goal , concentrate on those who are closer to us like Egypt and Jordan first , these countries need to be supported in every way possible be it financially or politically to increase the pace of integration .

I am glad of what Qatar and Saudi Arabia did with Egypt after its revolution , this is the kind of steps that is needed financially supporting our close allies when they are in trouble.

I fully agree with that notion. GCC is great because it is a organization that works and a organization whose members have nearly everything in common and the remaining things are just semantics as I described and they are bound to be there when we talk about countries which such a big landmass and geographical diversity, distances etc.

Yes, the media play a big role everywhere, I agree. But at some points even the GCC media is competing against each other. Al-Jazeera, at least in the past, where often critical of their fellow Arab Sunni states in particular Saudi Arabia. While Al-Arabiyah had their moments too the other way. But sure overall they have the same visions and are de facto united on their stance on matters that really matter - just as the one right now with the Iranian Mullah's and the Child-Murderer in Syria.

Yes, I predict that the GCC will expand and I hope it will. I just hope that the new members will integrate and that they will be welcomed. Also I would like it not only to be a rulers club but also among ordinary citizens. I mean exchange programs, free travel without visa (I know that those things are already in place - I am talking about new member states), some benefits, free health care system for all citizens of the GCC no matter in which country they suffer an accident, real political unity, no conflicting interests (KSA-Qatar right now in terms of the Muslim Brotherhood) etc. Which I personally do not like and I don't really understand it.

As a half Yemeni I really feel that the GCC could do even more for Yemen. Besides from what they are going already. A stable Yemen is crucial for all of us on the Peninsula. Yemen has a enormous potential and could be the gate to the Horn of Africa and the remaining Africa.

Precisely. The EU started as a union between 3-4 leading Western European countries (much like the GCC is leading in the Arab world in virtually every aspect) and so has GCC started. The future will only tell if it will expand.

Yes, I agree fully with Jordan and Egypt. Mutually too.

Indeed and I agree.

My only fear is the Arab character in terms of competition. You know how we are. Once the neighbor makes something better we want to beat it. Burj Khalifa and now the Kingdom Tower. LOL. To make a "big" example. Many of us are also too good-hearted, conspiracy theories are having a second renaissance in the Arab world (LOL) and we, not right now, often trusted foreigners blindly. I hope the Iranian Mullah interference have woken us up. The most important thing is education, moving forward and trying to be as independent as possible. KSA and UAE are leading in that movement and that should have happened 20 years ago since we have everything to succeed. Most importantly the money.

 

[ResurgentIran]

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This is the first time that all leading Sunni clicks call for Jihad in Syria officially and publicly. They started collecting money and forming battalions to fight along with FSA. Syria is only for Benu Ummayah and anybody dislikes that will be crushed like a bug.

You can take your Banu Ummayah and shove it where the sun dont shine. lol
And reality on the ground says the rebels are being crushed like bugs. That's why US is coming to rescue.