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Education: PTI’s plan exposed

If religions are growing by the virtue of breeding like animals then why aren't atheist breeding like cockroaches to compete?
Lol and by their own theory, ie "survival of the fittest" wouldn't this make religious people more fitter than those who deny existence of God? Therefore isn't it logical and rational from evolutionary standpoint to believe in God rather than deny Him?

See, Atheism is illogical, irrational and self-defeating. Religion, and Islam to be precise, is the only valid path to success in this life and the next.

Logic and rationality was and still is the property of the Muslim, despite the colonial and post-colonial havoc caused upon the Muslim world.

Today's world and its modern problems are all thanks to Liberalism; nuclear weapons and biological weapons, pollution of the environment and destruction of entire ecosystems, mass slaughter and mechanization of warfare, entire landmasses made inhospitable and uninhabitable due to years of chemical and radioactive exposure, increase in mental illnesses and crime-rate within Liberal paradises where many children don't even know who their fathers are. Gee, thanks secualrs and Liberals.
 
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Pakistan will reach its intended purpose - as outlined by the will of its people.

Whether this reflects the actual PTI plan or not, many here prefer the idea it seems.

Think of the wonders we will have when we do what the brilliant minds of Baghdad and samarqand did - they pushed science and knowledge as commanded by our prophet - and then found truth within the abstract concepts in the quran... we’ll only do it the opposite way; start with the abstract and try to find exactly that..mirroring our neighbor in their quest for vimans and plastic surgery as outland in the vedas.
 
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I see these so called enlightenment westerners everyday that some vermin in our idolize, they are inhuman in ways not possible in Pakistan, they are self centred, extraordinarily cheap, drunk adeled buffons who are talked down and insulted by their girlfriends. They like to talk about humanitarian causes yet i have found not even a shred of humanity in these apes, just last week, i was discussing China vs India with a gora couple and the lady was like, kill all 1.5 billion chinese for corona, this is who they really are behind all the propoganda of liberty and freedom.
 
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For three generations we have tried to build the most perfect Islamic state. And while we fight for it with all our hearts and souls for Pakistan, the day we get a visa to one of those godless countries that insist in teaching evolution and refuse to keep women in their place, we pack our bags and catch the next flight out. Only to continue to fight for True Islam in Pakistan through the internet invented of course by godless heathens and their disgusting women.
 
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Education is inherently "interesting", not mundane, it is human nature to learn! Creating an environment of curiosity, of understanding the nature of things, of practice and producing a practical generation. Working with identifying/creating problem and then deliberating/projecting a resolution and driving home a solution. A mind that does predictive analysis and positive criticism and youth that is not afraid of getting it's hands dirty.

We are a creature that distinguishes and deliberates, our creator said so... our posterity should not be afraid of knowledge... for that trickle is willed by our lord. Let our better judgment and historical precedence be our guide.

Civilizational knowledge, cottage industries must be preserved for these are techniques developed over generations... snd can be improved upon by contemporary knowledge. A strain of each of these human endeavors canbe further studied and schools be laboratories for that ... instead of pushing closed minded individuals.

Agenda driven individuals with known ties to subversive and superimposing ideologies will always hinder knowledge of faith and its true essence to be implemented and imparted to the youth... for that generation will not compromise on evil like those who have failed to discriminate/distinguish.
 
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Islamic education will ensure that people get educate in our values and become exemplary citizens.

true, which is why madrasah students are always such exemplary citizens.

hardly ever hear of anything wrong in madrassahs except occasionally a little bit of violence or fraud or pedophilia...that takes place in secular schools too...so....proves madrassahs are better.
 
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lol from last 70 years teaching Islam has done anything good to this country? Country is in downfall since the death of Jinnah(or maybe he was killed no ambulance for him) a British educated and pork eating liberal. The moment he died the first thing his followers did imposed Islam on this country and since then it is in downfall.
So two things, either you're saying that you don't have enough knowledge of Islam or you were not British trained/educated pork(a scant claim, veracity of which is not found in open record but a tale of a single encounter) consumer. Which is it that describes your personal failure?
Ofcourse, with that age you are perhaps further projecting your inability to realize or administer any change. Lastly, if Islam hasn't improved your thick skull then invariably it is having tough time in effectuating "good", is it?
 
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Education: PTI’s plan exposed
Pervez Hoodbhoy Updated 18 Jul, 2020
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BE prepared, Pakistan! Imran Khan’s government is poised to inflict damage upon this country’s education system in a manner never seen before. Its so-called Single National Curriculum (SNC) hides systemic changes going far deeper than the ones conceived and executed by the extremist regime of Gen Ziaul Haq. Implementation is scheduled for 2021.

At first glance a uniform national curriculum is hugely attractive. Some see it striking a lethal blow at the abominable education apartheid that has wracked Pakistan from day one. By the year, a widening gap has separated beneficiaries of elite private education from those crippled by bad public schooling. So what could be better than the rich child and the poor child studying the same subjects from the same books and being judged by the same standards?

But this morally attractive idea has been hijacked, corrupted, mutilated and beaten out of shape by those near-sighted persons now holding Pakistan’s future in their hands, and who, like their boss, kowtow to the madressah establishment. Prime Minister Khan was widely criticised in 2016-17 for making huge grants to madressahs of the late Maulana Samiul Haq, self-professed father of the Taliban who was murdered by an associate in mysterious circumstances.

The SNC massively prioritises ideology over education quality and acquisition of basic skills.


As yet only SNC plans for Class I-V are public. But the huge volume of religious material they contain beats all curriculums in Pakistan’s history. A column-by-column comparison with two major madressah systems — Tanzeemul Madaris and Rabtaul Madaris — reveals a shocking fact. Ordinary schools will henceforth impose more rote learning than even these madressahs. Normal schoolteachers being under-equipped religiously, SNC calls for summoning an army of madressah-educated holy men — hafiz’s and qaris — as paid teachers inside schools. How this will affect the general ambiance and the safety of students is an open question.

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The push for a uniform national curriculum idea derives from three flawed assumptions:

First: It is false that quality differences between Pakistan’s various education streams stem from pursuing different curricula. When teaching any secular subject such as geography, social studies or science, all streams have to cover the same topics. While details and emphases obviously differ, each must deal with exactly seven continents and water being H2O.

Instead, learning differentials arise because students experience very different teaching methods and are evaluated using entirely different criteria. So, for example, a local examination board will typically ask a mathematics student to name the inventor of logarithms whereas an ‘O’-level student must actually use logarithms to solve some problem. The modern world expects students to reason their way through a question, not parrot facts.

Second: It is false that a hefty dose of piety will somehow equalise students of Aitchison College and your run-of-the-mill neighbourhood school. The legendary Mahmood and Ayyaz prayed in the same suff (prayer line) and established a commonality without ending their master-slave relationship. Similarly, rich and poor schools will remain worlds apart unless equalised through school infrastructure, well-trained teachers, high quality textbooks and internet access. How the needed resources will be generated is anybody’s guess. Under the PTI, defence is the only sector seeing increases instead of cuts.

Third: It is false that school systems belonging to the modern world can be brought onto the same page as madressahs. Modern education rests squarely upon critical thinking, and success/failure is determined in relation to problem solving and worldly knowledge. Madressah education goals are important but different. They seek a more religiously observant student and a better life after death. Understandably, critical thinking is unwelcome.

While some madressahs now teach secular subjects like English, science and computers, this comes after much arm-twisting. Soon after 9/11, madressahs were spotlighted as terrorist breeding grounds. Musharraf’s government, beholden as it was to America, ordered them to teach secular subjects. Most rejected this outright but others were successfully pressurised. However, madressahs teach secular and religious subjects identically; reasoning is sparse and authoritarianism dominates.

While the new Class I-V SNC document also discusses secular subjects, much of this is pointless tinkering with the minutiae of teaching English, general knowledge, general science, mathematics and social studies. They are not accompanied by plausible plans for how the necessary intellectual or physical resources will be garnered and the plans implemented.


Still bigger changes are around the corner. The Punjab government has made teaching of the Holy Quran compulsory at the college and university level. Without passing the required examination no student will be able to get a BA, BSc, BE, ME, MA, MSc, MPhil, PhD or medical degree. Even the Zia regime did not have such blanket requirements. To get a university teaching job in the 1980s, you had to name all the wives of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and recite some difficult religious passages such as Dua-i-Qunoot. Still, students could get degrees without that. That option is now closed.

Starkly inferior to their counterparts in Iran, India and Bangladesh, Pakistani students perform poorly in all international science and mathematics competitions. Better achievers are invariably from the elite ‘O’-/‘A’-level stream. More worrying is that most students are unable to express themselves coherently and grammatically in any language, whether Urdu or English. They have stopped reading books.

Significantly, as yet the PTI’s new education regime is mum on how it will advance its goal of closing a huge skill deficit. So poor is the present quality of technical and vocational institutes that private employers must totally retrain the graduates. That’s why private-sector industrial growth is small and entire state enterprises, such as PIA and Pakistan Steel Mills, have collapsed. Pakistan’s space programme flopped but Iran has just put a military satellite into orbit and India is well on the way to Mars.

Empowered by the 18th Amendment, Pakistan’s provinces should vigorously resist the regressive plan being thrust upon the nation by ideologues that have usurped power in Islamabad. Else Pakistan will end up as the laughing stock of South Asia, left behind even by Arab countries. Pakistan’s greatest need — and its single greatest failure — is its tragic failure to impart essential life skills to its citizens. To move ahead, the priority should be to educate rather than score political points.

The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, July 18th, 2020

https://www.dawn.com/news/1569679/education-ptis-plan-exposed

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Highlighted the parts I thought were worth mentioning and need to be questioned.
Anti Pakistan Anti Islam Dawn news .........
 
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Saudi Arab universities are inviting non believers for talks and here we are forcing religion down the throat of people
it is u n the 0.0001% minority ******s like u who are forcing ur perverted views down people throats, the overwhelming majority, that is over 98% of the people in this country live and breathe islam.

For three generations we have tried to build the most perfect Islamic state. And while we fight for it with all our hearts and souls for Pakistan, the day we get a visa to one of those godless countries that insist in teaching evolution and refuse to keep women in their place, we pack our bags and catch the next flight out. Only to continue to fight for True Islam in Pakistan through the internet invented of course by godless heathens and their disgusting women.
Yeah, they created the internet so lets start worshiping them, Allah created everything that exists in this Universe but lets ignore Him, are u liberal perverts morons by birth or it grows on u when u sprout arms and legs?, n by the way algebra is the basis of all e tech, a muslim created that, why didnt the west bow to us for that, oh, wait, that is not what humans do, that is the sort of thing little slave vermin like u enjoy.

yes very exemplary
seen many many examples of them in last 20 years of war on terror
As expected, u have no notion of who was the main recruitment base of TTP, but that is expected of individuals with stagnant brain growth.
 
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For three generations we have tried to build the most perfect Islamic state. And while we fight for it with all our hearts and souls for Pakistan, the day we get a visa to one of those godless countries that insist in teaching evolution and refuse to keep women in their place, we pack our bags and catch the next flight out. Only to continue to fight for True Islam in Pakistan through the internet invented of course by godless heathens and their disgusting women.

wow. Why are you in such US where women dare to live and are not confined to their homes and its chores. You must immediately come back and help pakistan and its future generation learn how to “keep women in their place”

it is u n the 0.0001% minority inbreds like u who are forcing ur perverted views down people throats, the overwhelming majority, that is over 98% of the people in this country live and breathe islam.
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he is astrophysicist, i wonder what filth he will be teaching to the kids.
 
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