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Drones won't fly without bases in India
By M K Bhadrakumar – February 9, 2014


When the news item first appeared last May, it seemed far-fetched — that the Pentagon could be eyeing India’s Andaman & Nicobar Islands for basing its drone aircraft. It seemed unthinkable that India would provide a base for the American drones on its soil.

Nonetheless, the study titled Overseas Basing of US Military Forces undertaken by the Rand Corporation, which is seen usually as a veritable ‘brains trust’ of the Pentagon, merits a good look. Three factors come into play, which would have a bearing on the geopolitics of the US’ ‘pivot’ to Asia:
A) The US’ failure to persuade Afghan President Hamid Karzai to agree to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which would put a question mark on the CIA’s ability to keep the drone bases in Afghanistan.
B) The US’ failure to persuade Bishkek to allow access to the air base at Manas beyond July 2014, even as Bishkek has moved distinctly close to Moscow.
C) The US’ decision to involve itself militarily in Japan’s maritime disputes with China.
Clearly, the crunch time has come for the US Asian ‘pivot’ to be given underpinning in South and Central Asia, without which the rebalance strategy will remain incomplete. The US Defence Decretary Chuck Hagel faced some uncomfortable questions regarding this at a press briefing at the Pentagon on Friday.
The briefing was meant to flag the new line-up at the Defence Department that Obama announced last week with Robert Work as the next deputy secretary of defense. But the Q&A session began wandering toward the topic of post-2014 Afghan scenario.
The media persons drew Hagel’s attention to the ground reality that contrary to the apocalyptic vision the US commentators and officials in Washington have been disseminating for months to the effect that the US troops stand between deluge and stability in the Hindu Kush, the Afghan armed forces have been creditably performing so far (although NATO forces have already pulled out of the combat role.)
Hagel reluctantly agreed. The media then began taunting him as to what purpose will be served by keeping US troops beyond 2014: “I wonder if you could explain to us, given all — how well the Afghans are doing, why does there have to be any troops, US troops in Afghanistan after 2014? Most Americans are against this. Why can’t all US troops just leave at the end of the year?”
Good question. Hagel lamely began explaining that “it’s clearly in our [US] interest.” Then came a follow-up question: “What would happen to that country if — if there were no US troops going into 2015, do you think?”
Hagel didn’t have an answer. That was when the question on drone base came up: “But would you consider, if you don’t have an option of a drone base in Pakistan, if you don’t have troops allowed to stay, you don’t have a BSA, would you consider basing drones in India, for instance?” [Emphasis added.]
Hagel replied: “Well, we have to consider everything, as we are… you’re constantly updating and changing and looking at possibilities, strategic interests, where you posture those assets… where do you have allies that are willing to work with you, capacity-building of allies. You’re in a constant review process on all those things. And so if that would be the case, we — we would have to be — and we are looking at different options for everything.”
Hagel was evasive. He didn’t mention India, nor did he rule out India. Suffice to say, the precise timing of the remarks made by the US National Security Advisor Susan Rice in Washington on Friday, giving much hype to the US-Indian partnership, is also to be noted.
Ironically, Hagel’s press briefing underscored that Karzai is justified in exuding confidence over the capacity of the Afghan armed forces. What emerges is that while the Afghan scenario causes concern, it is nowhere near as apocalyptic as the American commentators and officials make it out to be. At the end of the day, the Obama administration’s priority it is to somehow ensure an open-ended US military presence in the highly strategic region of Afghanistan. (See my article US torpedoes Karzai’s contacts with Taliban.)
Of course, it will be downright stupid on the part of the Indian policymakers to consider allowing American drones to undertake operations from its soil against Pakistan or China.
To be sure, it is against a complex backdrop that External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid is heading for Kabul. The right thing to do will be for Delhi to view the Afghan prism in terms of its legitimate security interests.
India’s concerns are similar to the concerns of regional powers like China, Russia and Iran — a stable and secure Afghanistan, which is strong and independent. Indeed, the meeting between the Chinese and Afghan presidents in Sochi on Friday highlighted the shared concerns of regional powers.
 
Didn't the Indians give base(s) to Israel in the 1990s to attack Pakistani nuclear facilities... until Pakistan of course threatened to nuke India regardless where an attack on Pakistan's nuclear facilities came from.

India maybe making another stupid move, perhaps, but make no mistake, India will be spoken in a language it best understands.
 
To know the answer where they will base after 2014 is not that difficult for anyone who followed news for last 1 month. From last one month, Pak media is saying relations with USA are improving lot, at same time they stopped Drone attacks too on PAK. They even released money for Pakistan last week. Secretary of state(not economist) even praised that Pak will do wonders(in what?). Now, you figure-out where the base will be after 2014.
 
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Drones won't fly without bases in India
By M K Bhadrakumar – February 9, 2014


When the news item first appeared last May, it seemed far-fetched — that the Pentagon could be eyeing India’s Andaman & Nicobar Islands for basing its drone aircraft. It seemed unthinkable that India would provide a base for the American drones on its soil.

Nonetheless, the study titled Overseas Basing of US Military Forces undertaken by the Rand Corporation, which is seen usually as a veritable ‘brains trust’ of the Pentagon, merits a good look. Three factors come into play, which would have a bearing on the geopolitics of the US’ ‘pivot’ to Asia:
A) The US’ failure to persuade Afghan President Hamid Karzai to agree to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which would put a question mark on the CIA’s ability to keep the drone bases in Afghanistan.
B) The US’ failure to persuade Bishkek to allow access to the air base at Manas beyond July 2014, even as Bishkek has moved distinctly close to Moscow.
C) The US’ decision to involve itself militarily in Japan’s maritime disputes with China.
Clearly, the crunch time has come for the US Asian ‘pivot’ to be given underpinning in South and Central Asia, without which the rebalance strategy will remain incomplete. The US Defence Decretary Chuck Hagel faced some uncomfortable questions regarding this at a press briefing at the Pentagon on Friday.
The briefing was meant to flag the new line-up at the Defence Department that Obama announced last week with Robert Work as the next deputy secretary of defense. But the Q&A session began wandering toward the topic of post-2014 Afghan scenario.
The media persons drew Hagel’s attention to the ground reality that contrary to the apocalyptic vision the US commentators and officials in Washington have been disseminating for months to the effect that the US troops stand between deluge and stability in the Hindu Kush, the Afghan armed forces have been creditably performing so far (although NATO forces have already pulled out of the combat role.)
Hagel reluctantly agreed. The media then began taunting him as to what purpose will be served by keeping US troops beyond 2014: “I wonder if you could explain to us, given all — how well the Afghans are doing, why does there have to be any troops, US troops in Afghanistan after 2014? Most Americans are against this. Why can’t all US troops just leave at the end of the year?”
Good question. Hagel lamely began explaining that “it’s clearly in our [US] interest.” Then came a follow-up question: “What would happen to that country if — if there were no US troops going into 2015, do you think?”
Hagel didn’t have an answer. That was when the question on drone base came up: “But would you consider, if you don’t have an option of a drone base in Pakistan, if you don’t have troops allowed to stay, you don’t have a BSA, would you consider basing drones in India, for instance?” [Emphasis added.]
Hagel replied: “Well, we have to consider everything, as we are… you’re constantly updating and changing and looking at possibilities, strategic interests, where you posture those assets… where do you have allies that are willing to work with you, capacity-building of allies. You’re in a constant review process on all those things. And so if that would be the case, we — we would have to be — and we are looking at different options for everything.”
Hagel was evasive. He didn’t mention India, nor did he rule out India. Suffice to say, the precise timing of the remarks made by the US National Security Advisor Susan Rice in Washington on Friday, giving much hype to the US-Indian partnership, is also to be noted.
Ironically, Hagel’s press briefing underscored that Karzai is justified in exuding confidence over the capacity of the Afghan armed forces. What emerges is that while the Afghan scenario causes concern, it is nowhere near as apocalyptic as the American commentators and officials make it out to be. At the end of the day, the Obama administration’s priority it is to somehow ensure an open-ended US military presence in the highly strategic region of Afghanistan. (See my article US torpedoes Karzai’s contacts with Taliban.)
Of course, it will be downright stupid on the part of the Indian policymakers to consider allowing American drones to undertake operations from its soil against Pakistan or China.
To be sure, it is against a complex backdrop that External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid is heading for Kabul. The right thing to do will be for Delhi to view the Afghan prism in terms of its legitimate security interests.
India’s concerns are similar to the concerns of regional powers like China, Russia and Iran — a stable and secure Afghanistan, which is strong and independent. Indeed, the meeting between the Chinese and Afghan presidents in Sochi on Friday highlighted the shared concerns of regional powers.

US/we don't need land bases to use drones. You use any US Navy vessel to launch drones from. Drones can be in air dropped, too.

With all politeness meant this article does not think "outside the box" enough to realize these options for continued drone use.
 
Hagel replied: “Well, we have to consider everything, as we are… you’re constantly updating and changing and looking at possibilities, strategic interests, where you posture those assets… where do you have allies that are willing to work with you, capacity-building of allies. You’re in a constant review process on all those things. And so if that would be the case, we — we would have to be — and we are looking at different options for everything.”

Totally misleading article based on a tenuous interpretation of one very general quote by Mr. Hagel.

With bases from the Middle East to Diego Garcia to Australia and beyond, the need for Andeman Islands is simply not there.
 
India maybe making another stupid move, perhaps, but make no mistake, India will be spoken in a language it best understands.

Allowing the US to base drones on ones territory truly is a most stupid move, isn't it? ;)

Totally misleading article based on a tenuous interpretation of one very general quote by Mr. Hagel.

With bases from the Middle East to Diego Garcia to Australia and beyond, the need for Andeman Islands is simply not there.
Neither is the option for A&N islands.
 
Didn't the Indians give base(s) to Israel in the 1990s to attack Pakistani nuclear facilities... until Pakistan of course threatened to nuke India regardless where an attack on Pakistan's nuclear facilities came from.

India maybe making another stupid move, perhaps, but make no mistake, India will be spoken in a language it best understands.

Aray bhai why jump the gun,stop imagining.we learn from neighbours mistakes,we have learnt from people who try to make the same mistake again and again and again and again and again .....hoping to get a different result.
 
India maybe making another stupid move, perhaps, but make no mistake, India will be spoken in a language it best understands.

Not really up on my India Pakistan history, but the last time Pakistan tried to "speak" to India, didn't you get your asses handed to you? Might want to stop "speaking" to India, it doesn't seem to end well for you guys.
 
I highly doubt this will ever see the day of light. India doesn't allow Russia its closest ally/friend to base soldiers or any army personnel on its soil let alone US. With which it has had a very rough history. Yes, the argument stands that now we face a similar threat, but it doesn't mean we will give up our sovereignty for such things. Plus US already has many bases in Asia, that they can use to operate their drones from, they don't need India in the picture.
 
Aray bhai why jump the gun,stop imagining.we learn from neighbours mistakes,we have learnt from people who try to make the same mistake again and again and again and again and again .....hoping to get a different result.

we told you to stick around and you might learn something
 
Didn't the Indians give base(s) to Israel in the 1990s to attack Pakistani nuclear facilities... until Pakistan of course threatened to nuke India regardless where an attack on Pakistan's nuclear facilities came from.

India maybe making another stupid move, perhaps, but make no mistake, India will be spoken in a language it best understands.

You are asking a question , making assumptions followed by a threat.

Make up your mind.

Link to underlined part please.
 
I highly doubt this will ever see the day of light. India doesn't allow Russia its closest ally/friend to base soldiers or any army personnel on its soil let alone US. With which it has had a very rough history. Yes, the argument stands that now we face a similar threat, but it doesn't mean we will give up our sovereignty for such things. Plus US already has many bases in Asia, that they can use to operate their drones from, they don't need India in the picture.

When ever this base issue comes up,one questing crosses my mind,that is what do they think that they are Russia.
 
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