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Donald Trump slams Pakistan for lies and deceit
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Are you trolling me? Average Indian who is more worried about his day to day living, but trolls on PDF, Youtube, host of other forums and twitter about Pakistan? Don't try to make sh*t up.
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It was the Obama administration that stopped certifying Pakistan was being helpful in the GWOT. In fact, the much talked about Trump South Asia Strategy was in the works even before Trump took office. Pakistanis just suffer from bad reading of history.
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Abhi tuk dulley shair nai jawab nahi diya.Barey Choor kai haq mai tou sub bhonk rahe thay?
Just check likes,and you would know that.
That indian was also worried about his day to day living, but still managed to comment, like and retweet
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In Kashmir, freedom fighters dispatch Indian Terrorist Army (ITA) soldiers to hell on daily basis. Same is happening on LOC and then you cry that Pakistan mutilated bodies of ITA soldiers.
What are you doing here...go watch pogo..
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Abhey Khadim sahib white house key bahir dharna dey dey gaa.
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Rhetoric rises as US vows to withhold aid to Pakistan
By Sophia Saifi and Hilary Clarke, CNN
Updated 0259 GMT (1059 HKT) January 3, 2018
Trump: Only 'lies and deceit' from Pakistan 00:56
Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN)In a sign of escalating tensions between the United States and Pakistan, US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley accused Pakistan of playing "a double game for years" and confirmed the administration will withhold $255 million in aid to the country.
"They work with us at times, and they also harbor the terrorists that attack our troops in Afghanistan," Haley said Tuesday at a news conference. "That game is not acceptable to this administration."
Her remarks came a day after President Donald Trump accused Pakistan of lying to and deceiving the US despite receiving billions in foreign aid.
The Pakistani government said earlier Tuesday that recent comments from US leaders were "completely incomprehensible" and could damage the trust between the countries.
Haley said the White House expects far more cooperation from the Pakistani government in the fight against terrorism. Trump is willing "to go to great lengths to stop all funding from Pakistan as they continue to harbor and support terrorism," Haley said.
Pakistan's Ambassador to the United Nations responded to Haley's comments by saying Pakistan had made the biggest contribution to fighting international terrorism, and that it had been unfairly blamed for US failures.
"US spokespersons should not shift the blame for their own mistakes and failures onto others," said Maleeha Lodhi. "We can review our cooperation if it is not appreciated. Pakistan's cooperation is not based on any consideration of aid but on our national interests and principles."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/947802588174577664
Donald J. Trump
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The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!
Earlier Tuesday, Pakistani Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi chaired a National Security Committee (NSC) meeting, attended by the country's Foreign, Interior and Defense Ministers, along with chiefs of staff of the army, navy and air force.
In a statement following the meeting, the NSC expressed "deep disappointment" at recent US leadership comments, which it said were "completely incomprehensible as they contradicted facts manifestly, struck with great insensitivity at the trust between two nations built over generations, and negated the decades of sacrifices made by the Pakistani nation."
It said there had been close interaction with the US following Trump's initial policy statements regarding South Asia, and that recent visits to Pakistan by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis were "robust and forward-looking."
The NSC claimed that Pakistan's counterterrorism campaign had, at great financial cost, "served as a bulwark against the possible expansion of scores of terrorist organizations currently present in Afghanistan -- a fact acknowledged by US authorities at the highest levels."
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https://twitter.com/pid_gov/status/948207720292904961
Govt of Pakistan
#Pakistan has rendered countless sacrifices in War against Terrorism and has always taken indiscriminate action against any form of extremism.
Our commitment for lasting peace is unequivocal.
"Even more importantly the huge sacrifices made by Pakistan, including the loss of tens of thousands of lives of Pakistani civilians and security personnel, and the pain of their families, could not be trivialized so heartlessly by pushing all of it behind a monetary value -- and that too an imagined one," the statement said.
Claiming the roots of terrorism in Afghanistan were due to corruption, drug production and ungoverned terrorist havens, "the Committee observed that Pakistan cannot be held responsible for the collective failure in Afghanistan and that blaming allies certainly does not serve the shared objective of achieving lasting peace in Afghanistan and the region," the NSC statement said.
The statement said that "despite all unwarranted allegations, Pakistan cannot act in haste and will remain committed to playing a constructive role towards an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned peace process, not just for the sake of its own people, but also for the peace and security of the region and international community".
Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to PAK over last 15yrs,he can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving..
Following the NSC meeting, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif offered to pay for Trump to carry out an audit on his claim that Pakistan had received $33 billion in US aid over the past 15 years.
"He can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving," Asif wrote in a tweet.
A separate tweet from the Government of Pakistan contained a graph showing a drastic decline number of its civilians killed by Islamist militants. It claimed the number of Pakistanis killed in terror attacks had dropped significantly over the past five years, and that the number of people killed in the country since 2003 had cost the state $123 billion.
Activists burn the American flag at a protest in Karachi on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, around 200 members of the Difa-e-Pakistan Council, a coalition of Islamist parties, demonstrated against the US in Karachi, holding "Dump Trump" placards and burning the American flag. A similar protest was held in Lahore, according to AFP.
On Monday, US Ambassador David Hale was summoned to Pakistan's Foreign Ministry ministry to meet with senior officials, a US Embassy spokesman confirmed.
The White House said that it would continue to withhold $255 million in military aid to Pakistanout of frustration over what it has characterized as Islamabad's obstinacy in confronting terrorist networks.
CNN's Sophia Saifi reported from Islamabad. Hilary Clarke wrote from London.
http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/02/asia/pakistan-trump/index.html
By Sophia Saifi and Hilary Clarke, CNN
Updated 0259 GMT (1059 HKT) January 3, 2018
Trump: Only 'lies and deceit' from Pakistan 00:56
Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN)In a sign of escalating tensions between the United States and Pakistan, US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley accused Pakistan of playing "a double game for years" and confirmed the administration will withhold $255 million in aid to the country.
"They work with us at times, and they also harbor the terrorists that attack our troops in Afghanistan," Haley said Tuesday at a news conference. "That game is not acceptable to this administration."
Her remarks came a day after President Donald Trump accused Pakistan of lying to and deceiving the US despite receiving billions in foreign aid.
The Pakistani government said earlier Tuesday that recent comments from US leaders were "completely incomprehensible" and could damage the trust between the countries.
Haley said the White House expects far more cooperation from the Pakistani government in the fight against terrorism. Trump is willing "to go to great lengths to stop all funding from Pakistan as they continue to harbor and support terrorism," Haley said.
Pakistan's Ambassador to the United Nations responded to Haley's comments by saying Pakistan had made the biggest contribution to fighting international terrorism, and that it had been unfairly blamed for US failures.
"US spokespersons should not shift the blame for their own mistakes and failures onto others," said Maleeha Lodhi. "We can review our cooperation if it is not appreciated. Pakistan's cooperation is not based on any consideration of aid but on our national interests and principles."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/947802588174577664
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!
Earlier Tuesday, Pakistani Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi chaired a National Security Committee (NSC) meeting, attended by the country's Foreign, Interior and Defense Ministers, along with chiefs of staff of the army, navy and air force.
In a statement following the meeting, the NSC expressed "deep disappointment" at recent US leadership comments, which it said were "completely incomprehensible as they contradicted facts manifestly, struck with great insensitivity at the trust between two nations built over generations, and negated the decades of sacrifices made by the Pakistani nation."
It said there had been close interaction with the US following Trump's initial policy statements regarding South Asia, and that recent visits to Pakistan by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis were "robust and forward-looking."
The NSC claimed that Pakistan's counterterrorism campaign had, at great financial cost, "served as a bulwark against the possible expansion of scores of terrorist organizations currently present in Afghanistan -- a fact acknowledged by US authorities at the highest levels."
View image on Twitter
https://twitter.com/pid_gov/status/948207720292904961
Govt of Pakistan#Pakistan has rendered countless sacrifices in War against Terrorism and has always taken indiscriminate action against any form of extremism.
Our commitment for lasting peace is unequivocal.
"Even more importantly the huge sacrifices made by Pakistan, including the loss of tens of thousands of lives of Pakistani civilians and security personnel, and the pain of their families, could not be trivialized so heartlessly by pushing all of it behind a monetary value -- and that too an imagined one," the statement said.
Claiming the roots of terrorism in Afghanistan were due to corruption, drug production and ungoverned terrorist havens, "the Committee observed that Pakistan cannot be held responsible for the collective failure in Afghanistan and that blaming allies certainly does not serve the shared objective of achieving lasting peace in Afghanistan and the region," the NSC statement said.
The statement said that "despite all unwarranted allegations, Pakistan cannot act in haste and will remain committed to playing a constructive role towards an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned peace process, not just for the sake of its own people, but also for the peace and security of the region and international community".
Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to PAK over last 15yrs,he can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving..
Following the NSC meeting, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif offered to pay for Trump to carry out an audit on his claim that Pakistan had received $33 billion in US aid over the past 15 years.
"He can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving," Asif wrote in a tweet.
A separate tweet from the Government of Pakistan contained a graph showing a drastic decline number of its civilians killed by Islamist militants. It claimed the number of Pakistanis killed in terror attacks had dropped significantly over the past five years, and that the number of people killed in the country since 2003 had cost the state $123 billion.
Activists burn the American flag at a protest in Karachi on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, around 200 members of the Difa-e-Pakistan Council, a coalition of Islamist parties, demonstrated against the US in Karachi, holding "Dump Trump" placards and burning the American flag. A similar protest was held in Lahore, according to AFP.
On Monday, US Ambassador David Hale was summoned to Pakistan's Foreign Ministry ministry to meet with senior officials, a US Embassy spokesman confirmed.
The White House said that it would continue to withhold $255 million in military aid to Pakistanout of frustration over what it has characterized as Islamabad's obstinacy in confronting terrorist networks.
CNN's Sophia Saifi reported from Islamabad. Hilary Clarke wrote from London.
http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/02/asia/pakistan-trump/index.html
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Fact is America tried to bully north Korea and it kept firing missiles with longer takes. Now the Americans know if war comes they will get hit. Even if one nuke or missile gets through imagine the global impact. War will finally be brought home to the American people.
Pakistan Iran have always been the targets. America needs Iran to sell weapons to the stupid Arabs who will not support us at any hard juncture.
Pakistan in a veiled stament said it will put a man in space in two years indicating it has ICBM tech but I think beforehand they will have to gear up and fire a much much longer range missile bringing America within range. That will take the heat of.
Regarding sanctions. I am sure they will follow as they have been applied on Russia and Iran.
Pakistan if smart would work with these two to ensure American derailment in Afghanistan but must go after Isis even if that means it has to get in bed with the Taliban. Better the enemy you know.
India will do it's best but will never cross that border. It will up the ante. Chinese many bring forces closer to the border if the Indians push additional forces towards Pakistan.
Can China be relied upon for veto. Well it has a huge investment in Pakistan and it's trade will depend upon Pakistan being free and stable. So I am pretty certain that if push came to shove we may end up with a detachement of Chinese fighter planes and troops in the country to assist. Maybe that's not a bad idea.
Israel will work hard to ensure maximum pressure is applied to Pakistan.
Now question is will paksitan strangle NATO forces. Will it consult Britain and other members and perhaps try to divide NATO as per maverick American presidents actions.
Does the world want another Syria and can it handle 220 million crazy Pakistanis on the loose with guns? Does the world want to destabilise Pakistan. Ehat will happen to its nukes abd other toys.
Is American goal to weaken Pakistan to the point where it cannot manufacture military equipment itself and still depend on largely the American. Is this anything to do with the endorsement of the yuan?
Many questions..
Pakistan Iran have always been the targets. America needs Iran to sell weapons to the stupid Arabs who will not support us at any hard juncture.
Pakistan in a veiled stament said it will put a man in space in two years indicating it has ICBM tech but I think beforehand they will have to gear up and fire a much much longer range missile bringing America within range. That will take the heat of.
Regarding sanctions. I am sure they will follow as they have been applied on Russia and Iran.
Pakistan if smart would work with these two to ensure American derailment in Afghanistan but must go after Isis even if that means it has to get in bed with the Taliban. Better the enemy you know.
India will do it's best but will never cross that border. It will up the ante. Chinese many bring forces closer to the border if the Indians push additional forces towards Pakistan.
Can China be relied upon for veto. Well it has a huge investment in Pakistan and it's trade will depend upon Pakistan being free and stable. So I am pretty certain that if push came to shove we may end up with a detachement of Chinese fighter planes and troops in the country to assist. Maybe that's not a bad idea.
Israel will work hard to ensure maximum pressure is applied to Pakistan.
Now question is will paksitan strangle NATO forces. Will it consult Britain and other members and perhaps try to divide NATO as per maverick American presidents actions.
Does the world want another Syria and can it handle 220 million crazy Pakistanis on the loose with guns? Does the world want to destabilise Pakistan. Ehat will happen to its nukes abd other toys.
Is American goal to weaken Pakistan to the point where it cannot manufacture military equipment itself and still depend on largely the American. Is this anything to do with the endorsement of the yuan?
Many questions..
Very nice to see u here, iwas actually waiting for u since isaw the thread.Abhey Khadim sahib white house key bahir dharna dey dey gaa.
I was waiting for a huge write up from u which will tell us about american military with examples coming from comparisons between su 25 and a10s and about their pluto fly pasts and weapon systens, and makhi size drones and so much more
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You OK bro?
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What would i do if i was a pakistani leader.
1. Call an emergency UN meeting and talk live to American people and press.
As why and how Isis fighter are ending up in Afghanistan which Is under American control. Directly tell them they are being flown in by the Americans so we are stopping all cargo air traffic.
Tell then we will allow fighter aircraft to fly over Pakistan in the air corridors but if we suspect foul plelay that will stop too.
Question American support for PKK terrorism and ask why are world renowned terrorist groups being directly funded and supported by the USA. Is it one rule for America and another for the rest of the world. May other groups and countries can be named here. Such as they created the Taliban and trained OBL
2. Tell the Americans we no longer want American aid but will charge for ever container and ever bullet transiting through Pakistan. Make them pay
3. Tell them no mercenaries or contractors as they call them will be able to travel through Pakistan
4. Reduce American embassy footprint and reduce staff to a skeleton staff until things improve and there is mutual respect and recall Pakistan embassy staff from America.
5. Finally everyone in paksitan use Twitter to have a go at the American president and not America. Divide and rule
1. Call an emergency UN meeting and talk live to American people and press.
As why and how Isis fighter are ending up in Afghanistan which Is under American control. Directly tell them they are being flown in by the Americans so we are stopping all cargo air traffic.
Tell then we will allow fighter aircraft to fly over Pakistan in the air corridors but if we suspect foul plelay that will stop too.
Question American support for PKK terrorism and ask why are world renowned terrorist groups being directly funded and supported by the USA. Is it one rule for America and another for the rest of the world. May other groups and countries can be named here. Such as they created the Taliban and trained OBL
2. Tell the Americans we no longer want American aid but will charge for ever container and ever bullet transiting through Pakistan. Make them pay
3. Tell them no mercenaries or contractors as they call them will be able to travel through Pakistan
4. Reduce American embassy footprint and reduce staff to a skeleton staff until things improve and there is mutual respect and recall Pakistan embassy staff from America.
5. Finally everyone in paksitan use Twitter to have a go at the American president and not America. Divide and rule
Yes since u often post in usa threatening pakistan threads and educate us about their super advance military tech and how we should be building diplomatic ties with them, and how usa cutting trade with pakistan will leave us in shambles, i was waiting to hear ur views.
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