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(CNN) - It's a case of he said, he said between two of the world's most powerful men.

We know that Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US President-elect Donald Trump spoke on the phone Wednesday.

What was said during that call is what's at issue.

After the conversation, the Pakistan Prime Minister's Office put out a statement directly quoting Trump -- a violation of diplomatic protocol -- in which he glowingly praised Sharif.

The statement quoted President-elect Trump as telling Sharif "you are a terrific guy. You are doing amazing work which is visible in every way. I am looking forward to see you soon. As I am talking to you, Prime Minister, I feel I am talking to a person I have known for long."

The President-elect's office put out a statement saying the two sides "had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future."

The Trump team did not answer inquiries from CNN asking whether the President-elect actually said what the Pakistanis claimed he had.

The danger
Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually summarized in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash -- like the one the Trump team put out.

They're dry and diplomatic statements recapping conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords.
And political insiders say the calls themselves are usually quite formal.

"A president wouldn't gush over a foreign leader the way that Donald Trump did. He wouldn't volunteer to do all these things," says CNN political analyst David Gergen, who has served as an adviser to four presidents.

"Our relationship with Pakistan is one of the most sensitive and difficult relationships in the world. It's an extremely important relationship."

When making that call, a president would likely have a press aide and national security advisers at his side, according to Gergen.

"You'd carefully think through any call like that, you'd make your two or three points, [then] over and out," he said. "Especially don't leave them in a position where they could put out something so gushing that it hurts your relationship with India."

The disconnect
In the past, the President-elect has been a vocal critic of Pakistan.

"Get it straight: Pakistan is not our friend," he tweeted in 2011.


"When will Pakistan apologize to us for providing safe sanctuary to Osama Bin Laden for 6 years?! Some 'ally,'" he tweeted in 2012.


And Trump said in October if he was elected, the United States and India -- Pakistan's longtime adversary -- would be "best friends."

Speaking to reporters, a spokesman for India's Ministry of External Affairs said "we have only seen the one-sided version of that conversation."

Referring to Trump's apparent willingness to tackle "outstanding issues," he said that India believes the most pressing issue is "Pakistan's continued support of cross-border terrorism."

"To that extent we would welcome a dialogue between the US and Pakistan to resolve that issue," he added.
While the comments could have caused friction with Pakistan, they -- and the quotes the Pakistanis attribute to Trump -- fall in line with the President-elect's campaign pledge to employ the relationship-building skills he used in his business career in the diplomatic sphere.

It also could be another case of growing pains for a political newbie, if the quotes are accurate.

Some world leaders had trouble getting in touch with President-elect Trump immediately after his election.
The President-elect is traditionally briefed by the State Department prior to making these calls. But Trump, as he's proven throughout his campaign, isn't one to stick to traditional political norms.

The State Department said it was contacted after the Trump team had already spoken with several world leaders.

"Quite frankly, nobody knows what the protocol is with Donald Trump," CNN Politics Executive Editor Mark Preston said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/01/politics/donald-trump-nawaz-sharif-phone-call/
 
Indians have taken it to their heart

Actually it's the Americans that are going on a panic ride ...there is the political establishment which hopes to maintain the status quo of us being the number 1 superpower ..and now with trump ,the status quo is at danger of being destroyed
 
(CNN) - It's a case of he said, he said between two of the world's most powerful men.

We know that Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US President-elect Donald Trump spoke on the phone Wednesday./

Take a look at the fact. The US media keeps referring to this call as "Two of the Most Powerful Men Spoke". I've heard it like 20 times today and I certainly have read it on here for like 40 times. So I guess Pakistan is considered one of the most powerful countries :enjoy:

On continued postings of these threads, do we really need so many of these? I think the message is loud and clear. Mr. Trump will have a good relationship with Pakistan. As I expected him to have as he's a businessman and so is the Pakistani premier. Both guys would go along well. Many people on either side don't like them so more things in common :lol:. But why the jealousy from our respected Indian members? It seems that every single Indian member is pissed off. If this is how thin skinned you are, Mr. Trump will make you cry with his own priorities and directions. Better understand him that he'd work with the Pakistanis then continue to post stuff like this with disappointment for the next 5 years. Thanks
 
he is taking a lot of U-turns and to impress the masses he will keep lashing out at some adversaries to not lose his vote bank and impress those who are opposing him, he is a businessman he will maintain or improve relationship with Pakistan instead of going on the downward trajectory...relations with india will improve on defense side and that doesn't mean he will sacrifice relations Pakistan for the sake of pleasing indians ego,he will look for his country interests instead of bowing down toward one side and losing the other wont happen, indians are jumping around but as long as USA is in Afg, trump don't have any choice, i'm of the view that he will not be worse for Pakistan...Trump is willing & will improve relations with its enemy (Russia) then what makes u wonder that he will be worst for Pakistan ?? if Pakistan play the right cards then we can further improve relations with USA.

- Under trump presidency no more lobbyist..pro india senators wll lose their jobs possibly when funds stop coming :P
- economic reforms.
- build a wall on mexico border or increase security on that border.
- Under Trump presidency i dont think he will be willing to transfer the production line to India, if india select F-16 :P he won't back down from his main election manifesto of taking away jobs from USA to other countries including India :P
- etc etc
 
For Indian friends, guys why are we so concerned ? Just one word for this issue to Indian friends...we need to grow up...Forget about Pakistan, we are making ourselves laughing stock when pounding with threads about what America has done to Pakistan...Let them sort it out their own issue among themselves..Be aware that Mr president elect is highly unpredictable person. You never what is in store for us before pointing fingers to Pakistan....
 
For Indian friends, guys why are we so concerned ? Just one word for this issue to Indian friends...we need to grow up...Forget about Pakistan, we are making ourselves laughing stock when pounding with threads about what America has done to Pakistan...Let them sort it out their own issue among themselves..Be aware that Mr president elect is highly unpredictable person. You never what is in store for us before pointing fingers to Pakistan....
Where his money is, his blessings will follow. Currently its 18 ventures in India, none in Pakistan.

And this is a idiotic third world dip-faeces mentality that Pakistani leadership has shown posting that conversation verbatim online.
 
love how indians post the 2011 statement of him all the time.
It really did got to their heart. ;_;
 
Where his money is, his blessings will follow. Currently its 18 ventures in India, none in Pakistan.

And this is a idiotic third world dip-faeces mentality that Pakistani leadership has shown posting that conversation verbatim online.

Do not take me wrong...but somehow, i still beleive in what Mr Sharif says than the other party....One good thing about current leaders of Pakistan is, they might be domestically unstable due to corruption, but they are really doing over all good job in foreign policy front. Be it China, Russia and Central Asia relation or Afganistan....Even with India, Mr Sharif is taking risk in keeping hand of friendship with Mr Modi. He is definitely a risk taker and seasoned politician...I am really surprised if he will make the mistake where he misrepresent the facts. Unless and otherwise, other party is not playing with his words....
 
Damn our neighbors need to relax a bit you really took it to heart come on guys relax it's all ok.
 
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