Does India Harbour Territorial Ambitions Towards Pakistan or Not?

[anonymus]

Yes, in that alone it would make proper sense. But I don't want a common border with Afghanistan. AT ALL. Koenrad Elst has valuable inputs on how to 'bring our Muslim population below 5% level. And he does not mention violence, he himself is a pacifist. So not comfortable about emulating the Third Reich here. Not because of moral constraints. (Because TR lost) Just saying.

Muslim population in United India grew from 19.97% in 1881 to 24.26% in 1941; that on the back of just early marriage and polygamy. As recent statistics have pointed out, Hindu fertility rate has hit replacement level, and is bound to turn negative to the extent that India as a whole would attain replacement level fertility rates by 2020, ie negative growth rate for Hindus to an extent that it would compensate population explosion of Muslims. I do not understand how Muslim population could be brought below 5% without coercion ( i mean at least forced sterilization, a la Sanjay Gandhi style ).

 

[SarthakGanguly]

least forced sterilization, a la Sanjay Gandhi style

I will count them technically as a 'peaceful method'. There is no bloodshed - almost.
And state sanctioned ghar wapsi programs. Not only to Hinduism - but also to other respective native faiths...including animism(we must protect our Adivasi cultures), Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, etc.

 

[ranjeet]

I agree whole heartedly on both posts. Sindh should have been split like Punjab was. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter now, whats done is done.

Though @ranjeet , this is one reason why I am always glad to see the majority of the Pakistanis here. And get really pissed off when some Indian peace-nic comes up with "we are the same people" and "Pakistan should be secular" lines.

We should be promoting Islam and Islamism in Pakistan.

Encourage Pakistanis - Yes, Pakistan you won all wars you fought with India, Yes you also defeated Soviet Union, Yes India is a slave, Yes you are martial races. Yes Pakistan needs "true Islam", Yes Shariah is Gods law, Yes Secularism is being a traitor to Islam, Yes Hindus and kafirs are "enemies", Yes Pakistan is the Islam ka Qila, Yes Jihad is salvation, Yes India was never a country and Pakistan will conquer India for Islam!

If they actually start course correction and start teaching actual history, their people will learn and change. We don't want that, despite the fact that it will lead to many deaths of Indians in the short term because of their antics.

Encourage them in their existing biases - their Govt and Army are our best friends - and you will see a dying Pakistan in a couple of decades if we can make sure Pakistan simply continues on the path it is on.

You evil yindoo, why did you spill out the beans

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Pakistanis claim India is an external threat to Pakistan. But why? Do Pakistanis feel that India has never been reconciled to Partition and the creation of Pakistan and seeks to reunify Pakistan with India by force? Not so! says Air Vice-Marshal (Ret'd) Abid Rao of the Pakistan Air Force. He maintains that even if Pakistan were to ask India to reincorporate Pakistan into India, the Indians would refuse. If this is true, why is India used as a bogeyman in Pakistan? For what purpose is this done?

India has martyred many of our soldiers in Skirmishes, they are also stealing our energy and water (violating indus water treaty). Peace can only exist if Kashmir is seceded to Pakistan. Why do we need Kashmir? 95% of our water source comes from Kashmir. The next war will be fought over water.

 

[Bang Galore]

India has martyred many of our soldiers in Skirmishes.....

Many Indian soldiers & civilians have also died....

they are also stealing our energy

Err...what? How?

and water (violating indus water treaty).

That's why you lose every case you ever brought.......

Peace can only exist if Kashmir is seceded to Pakistan.

We can live without your definition of peace then.....

Why do we need Kashmir? 95% of our water source comes from Kashmir. The next war will be fought over water.

You can fight it for whatever reason you want, the result is unlikely to be different from your previous attempts.

 

[psynic]

I agree whole heartedly on both posts. Sindh should have been split like Punjab was. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter now, whats done is done.

Though @ranjeet , this is one reason why I am always glad to see the majority of the Pakistanis here. And get really pissed off when some Indian peace-nic comes up with "we are the same people" and "Pakistan should be secular" lines.

We should be promoting Islam and Islamism in Pakistan.

Encourage Pakistanis - Yes, Pakistan you won all wars you fought with India, Yes you also defeated Soviet Union, Yes India is a slave, Yes you are martial races. Yes Pakistan needs "true Islam", Yes Shariah is Gods law, Yes Secularism is being a traitor to Islam, Yes Hindus and kafirs are "enemies", Yes Pakistan is the Islam ka Qila, Yes Jihad is salvation, Yes India was never a country and Pakistan will conquer India for Islam!

If they actually start course correction and start teaching actual history, their people will learn and change. We don't want that, despite the fact that it will lead to many deaths of Indians in the short term because of their antics.

Encourage them in their existing biases - their Govt and Army are our best friends - and you will see a dying Pakistan in a couple of decades if we can make sure Pakistan simply continues on the path it is on.

I used to be one of those peace-niks not very long ago.

That age-old cliche Indians so often repeat does not account for the events of the past 70 years. Hindus and muslims are the same people, Indians and Pakistanis are not.

 

[Bang Galore]

India didn't hold on to Bangladesh because people of Bangladesh weren't pro India and it would've been a manana if they had.

Good point...Maybe that's why India will have no territorial interests in Pakistan either....Unless you are saying that Pakistanis are pro-India.....

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I agree whole heartedly on both posts. Sindh should have been split like Punjab was. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter now, whats done is done.

Though @ranjeet , this is one reason why I am always glad to see the majority of the Pakistanis here. And get really pissed off when some Indian peace-nic comes up with "we are the same people" and "Pakistan should be secular" lines.

We should be promoting Islam and Islamism in Pakistan.

Encourage Pakistanis - Yes, Pakistan you won all wars you fought with India, Yes you also defeated Soviet Union, Yes India is a slave, Yes you are martial races. Yes Pakistan needs "true Islam", Yes Shariah is Gods law, Yes Secularism is being a traitor to Islam, Yes Hindus and kafirs are "enemies", Yes Pakistan is the Islam ka Qila, Yes Jihad is salvation, Yes India was never a country and Pakistan will conquer India for Islam!

If they actually start course correction and start teaching actual history, their people will learn and change. We don't want that, despite the fact that it will lead to many deaths of Indians in the short term because of their antics.

Encourage them in their existing biases - their Govt and Army are our best friends - and you will see a dying Pakistan in a couple of decades if we can make sure Pakistan simply continues on the path it is on.

Bingo. I have a dream.

 

[farhan_9909]

I don't know about india but i can assure you that one day we will reclaim our territory of Indus valley civilization driving the indian people toward central india who have occupied our land

 

[anonymus]

stealing our energy

Abey, Zhoot to dhang se bola kar.

stealing our water

Feel free to take take India to International court of Justice, or negotiate new treaty.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Abey, Zhoot to dhang se bola kar.



Feel free to take take India to International court of Justice, or negotiate new treaty.

We actually did, demolishing 24 dams isnt something India is interested in doing.

 

[psynic]

I don't know about india but i can assure you that one day we will reclaim our territory of Indus valley civilization driving the indian people toward central india who have occupied our land

Research & Dev? No wonder..

 

[farhan_9909]

We only care about our land and let me make it sure,that we won't take any single indian refugee.Either they should leave our territory or be ready to fight as we also won't take prisoners

 

[graphican]

Good point...Maybe that's why India will have no territorial interests in Pakistan either....Unless you are saying that Pakistanis are pro-India.....

Exactly my point. India still keeps territorial interests in Pakistan but to divide and create them non-hostile states like Bangladesh, Myamar or Bhutan. India may not be able to capture a territory but its territorial interests are still there. What India does with the territory is seondary but as core interst, territory matters to Indian hostile designs.

Recently Indian defense adviser to Modi talked of intervention in Baluchistan to separate it from Pakistan. Weather it has capacity to do that or not is another aspect but question of intention is unquestioned.

 

[Dem!god]

I can't give you a positive rating otherwise I have given you 5 positive ratings , before I go to work I just read the post of the day for me
You have exactly picked the painful nerve of the pakistan, congratz

ek hi post me itne smiley...