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Arab nation doesnt deny that they are close to Indian nation.

Arabs Knew about Indians
Greeks Knew about Indians
Persians Knew about Indians
Egypt and Meso were trading with Indians

Despite all that none mentioned about the Aryans .
Persians is the only possibility of Being Aryans .
 
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most of the biblical scholars believe this date.

I am quoting from them only.

There is huge difference between what scholars believes/interprate and what's the text is. In your first post you tried to ridicule the text, you were not talking about what scholars belive. As far as scholars are concerned than you should also talk about what scholars of Hinduism believe.
 
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There is huge difference between what scholars believes/interprate and what's the text is. In your first post you tried to ridicule the text, you were not talking about what scholars belive. As far as scholars are concerned than you should also talk about what scholars of Hinduism believe.

Lord Ram was born on January 10, 12.05 hours, 5114 BC
The war in Mahabharata started on October 13, 3139 BC
Krishna was born on 18 July 3228 BCE and he lived until 18 February 3102 BCE.
 
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There is huge difference between what scholars believes/interprate and what's the text is. In your first post you tried to ridicule the text, you were not talking about what scholars belive. As far as scholars are concerned than you should also talk about what scholars of Hinduism believe.

Let me make it clear.

The date was proposed based on the book of genesis which is believed to be the history for Abrahamic faiths.

If I do not believe in the book and scholars what is the alternate way to know the date. If you know that post it here.

It is the Abrahamic faiths who ridicule others not Dharmics. Dharmics are open minded and they lead a life based on experiences not books.
 
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Let me make it clear.

The date was proposed based on the book of genesis which is believed to be the history for Abrahamic faiths.

If I do not believe in the book and scholars what is the alternate way to know the date. If you know that post it here.

It is the Abrahamic faiths who ridicule others not Dharmics. Dharmics are open minded and they lead a life based on experiences not books.

Don't try to divert, None of 4 Abrahamic holy books mention dates of creation of world, you deliberately tried to ridicule the holy books by terming the believes of scholars as holy books of Abrahamic religions.
 
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Don't try to divert, None of 4 Abrahamic holy books mention dates of creation of world, you deliberately tried to ridicule the holy books by terming the believes of scholars as holy books of Abrahamic religions.



Why do you think I am diverting the attention?

You get specific mention of events in those books and from their your Abrahamic scholars interpreted them. My statement is based on those legitimate claims. I am not the first one to claim this date.
 
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A must visit for me.

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Carved stone slabs that were destroyed by Islamic State group militants are seen at the ancient site of Nimrud, some 19 miles south-east of Mosul in Iraq in this November 16, 2016 file photo. In its bid to erase history, the savage group has blown up the remains of the Assyrian capital’s palaces and temples that were once lined in brilliant reliefs of gods and kings, hacked to pieces statues of winged bulls that once guarded the site and even bulldozed the city’s landmark towering ziggurat or step pyramid. | Photo Credit: AP

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...rud-is-now-a-looters’-den/article16998461.ece

The Assyrian capital, with its landmark ziggurat gone, falls victim to the savage IS group’s fervour to erase history.
The chilly December wind whipped rain across the strewn wreckage of a city that, nearly 3,000 years ago, ruled almost the entire Middle East. Rivulets of water ran through the dirt, washing away chunks of ancient stone.

The city of Nimrud in northern Iraq is in pieces, victim of the barbaric Islamic State group’s fervor to erase history. The remains of its palaces and temples, once lined in brilliant reliefs of gods and kings, have been blown up. The statues of winged bulls that once guarded the site are hacked to bits. Its towering ziggurat, or step pyramid, has been bulldozed.

Historical site is now history

The militants’ fanaticism devastated one of the Middle East’s most important archaeological sites. But more than a month after the militants were driven out, Nimrud is still being ravaged, its treasures disappearing, imperilling any chance of eventually rebuilding it, an Associated Press team found after multiple visits last month.

With the government and military still absorbed in fighting the war against the IS in nearby Mosul, the wreckage of the Assyrian Empire’s ancient capital lies unprotected and vulnerable to looters.

“When I heard about Nimrud, my heart wept before my eyes did,” said Hiba Hazim Hamad, an archaeology professor in Mosul who often took her students there.

None to guard them

In three of the AP’s four visits, its team wandered the ruins alone freely for up to an hour before anyone arrived. No one is assigned to guard the site, much less catalogue the fragments.

Toppled stone slabs bearing a relief that the AP saw on one visit were gone when it returned.

Perhaps the only vigilant guardian left is an Iraqi archaeologist, Layla Salih. She has visited multiple times, photographing the wreckage to document it and badgering militias to watch over it. Walking through the ruins on a rainy winter day, she pointed out things that were no longer in place.

‘It can still be salvaged’

Still, Ms. Salih finds reasons for optimism.

“The good thing is the rubble is still in situ,” she said. “The site is restorable.”

To an untrained eye, that’s hard to imagine, seeing the destruction caused by the IS group. Ms. Salih estimated 60 per cent of the site was irrecoverable.

The site’s palaces and temples were spread over 360 hectares (900 acres) on a dirt plateau on the edge of the Tigris River valley.

A 140-foot-high ziggurat once arrested the gaze of anyone entering Nimrud. Now there is only lumpy earth. Archaeologists had never had a chance to explore the now-bulldozed structure.

Once a palace, now bricks

Past it, in the palace of King Ashurnasirpal II, walls are toppled into giant piles of bricks. The palace’s courtyard is a field of cratered earth. Pieces of the two monumental winged bulls are piled nearby their heads missing, likely taken to be sold.

Off to the left are the flattened remains of the temple of Nabu, a god of writing. During a December 14 UNESCO assessment tour, a United Nations demining expert peered at a hole leading to a seemingly intact tomb and warned that it could be rigged to explode.

Think of the Assyrians

From 879-709 BC, Nimrud was the capital of the Assyrians, one the ancient world’s earliest empires. In modern excavations , the site yielded a wealth of Mesopotamian art. In the tombs of queens were found troves of gold and jewellery. Hundreds of written tablets deepened knowledge about the ancient Middle-East.

Touring the site, UNESCO’s representative to Iraq, Louise Haxthausen, called the destruction “absolutely devastating.”

“The most important thing right now is to ensure some basic protection,” she said.

But the government has many priorities. It is still fighting the IS in Mosul, and the list of reconstruction needs is long.

Tens of thousands of citizens live in camps. Much of the city of Ramadi is destroyed. More than 70 mass graves have been unearthed in the IS territory. Other ancient sites remain under the IS control.

None of the various armed groups around Nimrud whether the military or various militias has been dedicated to guarding it.

Ancient bricks to build homes?

During the UNESCO tour, Ms. Salih noticed that some of the ancient bricks from the rubble had been neatly piled up as if to be hauled away perhaps, she suspects, to repair homes damaged in fighting. Stone tiles at the palace entrance vanished from where she saw them last.

Two locals were arrested with a marble tablet and stone seal from Nimrud, presumably to sell. The men are in custody.

But it’s unclear where the artefacts seized from them are.

The police insisted they were at a lab in the northern city of Irbil. The lab said it knew nothing about them. The Antiquities Ministry in Baghdad said they were safe in the Nineveh government offices. An official there said they were with the police awaiting transit to Baghdad. That circle of confusion makes theft easy.

All for some security

Ms. Salih is seeking international funding to pay someone to guard the site. But she recognizes the job will have to go to one of the militia factions, and she has no illusions they will provide full protection.

She’ll have to cajole them into doing as much as they can.

“There isn’t another choice, as you see,” she said.
 
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http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-seeks-return-of-5-000-year-old-marble-figure/807469

Turkey has started legal action for the return of a 5,000-year-old Anatolian marble figure currently on the sale at a New York auction house.

Speaking to reporters in Istanbul on Friday, Culture Minister Nabi Avci said: “We’ve taken steps in order to stop the sale of this work of art and inform the possible recipient that this … was abducted from Turkey.”

The Guennol Stargazer, which dates back to the third millennium BC, is regarded as one of best examples of Kiliya-type Anatolian marble female idols.

The nine-inch figure -- which is thought to have been taken from Gelibolu [Gallipoli], Turkey -- has an estimated sale price of $3 million.

A U.S. court ruled that Christie’s Auction House cannot hand the work of art over to the recipient until a final decision is made, according to Avci.

“We are going to present the necessary scientific reports showing the statute belongs to Turkey within the two-month time frame the court gave us,” the minister said, adding: “We are pursuing our efforts for the return of this work of art.”
 
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I always thought, the area between the present day Kurdistan and Turkey is where we will find the keys.
 
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The first stage of the Adana Museum Complex, the Archaeology Museum, which is home to archaeological and ethnographical works as well as agricultural and industrial tools and machines, opened on May 18 with a ceremony.

“Today we are unearthing the underground richness of this region,” said Culture and Tourism Minister Nabi Avcı.

“We will display this richness in the second stage. The number of artifacts on the UNESCO World Heritage Tentative List has increased to 72. We also have 16 permanent artifacts on the list. We will discuss the inclusion of the ancient city of Aphrodisias in Aydın at the 41st World Committee Meeting to be held in Poland in July. Göbeklitepe in Şanlıurfa will be our nominee at the next year’s meeting. We are also working for the return of smuggled artifacts,” Avcı added.

He said the transformation of the closed factory into a museum is a very good example showing how to protect a country’s history.

“These works are only for the first stage. Ethnography, industry and agriculture museums will be added here in the second stage. This place will also survive the memory of Orhan Kemal, who made great contributions to the promotion of this region. We will establish a unit for him in the museum. When the second stage is done, this will be Turkey’s and the Middle East’s largest museum,” Avcı added.

A total area of 68,500 square-meters

The museum complex is being established in the century-old factory.

Works for the museum complex were initiated three years ago by the Culture and Tourism Ministry General Directorate of Cultural Beings and Museums in the Milli Mensucat (National Textile) Factory, built in 1907 in the southern province of Adana’s Seyhan district. An important part of the works has been recently finished.

Once the complex is completely finished, the museum is set to be one of the largest museums in the Middle East. The Archaeology Museum department covers an area of 12,500 square meters out of 68,500 square-meters.

The museum is made up of seven halls depicting the history of mankind with documents, visuals, dioramas and animations.

Sculptures, tombs, steles, altars and busts from prehistoric Hittite, Assyrian, Archaic, Hellenistic, Roman, Eastern Roman, Seljuk and Ottoman periods; various containers made of glass, earth and bronze; earthenware and bronze candles; small ancient-era statuettes, cylinder and stamp seals; glass, bronze and gold jewelries as well as artifacts from the 18th century are on display at the museum.

Among the most significant artifacts on display are the stone sculpture of the Hittite Storm God Tarhun, a stele with the Anatolian hieroglyph inscription, Babylon stele, a bronze male sculpture removed from the sea in Adana’s Karataş district and the Roman-era Anthropoid Tomb and Achilles Tomb.


Big museum was necessary


Culture and Tourism Director Sabri Tari said the use of the textile factory, which is a registered cultural heritage and has a significant place in Adana’s history, as a museum will be a great gain for the city.

Tari said that with the support of the Culture and Tourism Ministry, the archaeology museum was finished in the first stage, and the complex was designed as a structure for social life not only for display.

He said the restoration has continued for three years and the museum was closed in this process, adding that it was a trouble for the city’s tourism.

“The Archaeology Museum will compensate this trouble. Adana needed a big museum. We believe that that this museum will make great contribution to tourism. The next stages of the complex include an agricultural museum among citrus trees and the industrial museum featuring the city’s industrial history,” Tari added.

Adana Museum Deputy Director Nedmi Dervişoğlu said the museum has a rich archaeology potential and will satisfy visitors, adding that the museum will reflect the history of the region to a great extent with many artifacts.

“The museum will have 3D animations from the ancient ages. The Hittite-era Tarhun sculpture from 1,000 B.C., which was found in 1997 during an excavation in Yüreğir’s Çine village, is one of the highlights of the museum. Also, we have tombs from the Hellenistic and Roman periods as well as sculptures from the same periods,” Dervişoğlu added.

The museum, which opened on May 18, can be visited for free for the first three days.
 
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Located in the southeastern province of Gaziantep’s Nizip district, the Zeugma Mosaic Museum is home to many splendors unearthed in the ancient city, where excavations have been going on since 2005 by Ankara University’s archaeology department’s Professor Kutalmış Görkay and his team.

The excavation team is currently working in a Roman villa called the “Muzolar House” on an area of 20 decares. Works will end on Sept. 18.

Deputy head of the excavations and Gazi University’s archeology department’s academic Associated Professor Ayşe Fatma Erol said the ancient city of Zeugma was one of the most important intersections that gave passage to Mesopotamia on the Euphrates River.

She said thanks to this feature, the ancient city kept its political, military and economic significance throughout history.

“With its position on the Euphrates River, Zeugma was a Hellenistic and Roman city that served as a bridge and gateway for many civilizations. The city was formed in the Hellenistic era by Seleukos King Seleukos I with the name ‘Selevkia.’ Romans were dominant there since the 1st century B.C. The city’s name became Zeugma after the Romans. It means bridge-gateway,” she added.

Traces of Paleolithic Age


Erol said the city, perched on the eastern border of the Roman Empire, kept this position until the second half of the 2nd century, and that the history of the city dates back to the early Paleolithic age. The city lost importance in 253 after the Sasanian attacks.

The first excavations were realized by the Gaziantep Museum in 1987 before works were accelerated in 1990 with the construction of the Birecik Dam, which was initiated as part of the Southeastern Anatolia Project (GAP).

“A 25-person team is working in the field of the Roman villa, known as the Muzolar House. We worked here in the past years, too. This year, the works in the atrium of the house are being finished. Also, operations for the restoration and conservation of frescoes have been maintained, too,” she said.

Erol said excavations will last many years in Zeugma just like in the ancient city of Ephesus in the Aegean province of İzmir.

“Excavations in Ephesus have lasted for more than 100 years. This place has the same archaeological potential, too. Zeugma became famous for the Gypsy Girl Mosaic. We can find more mosaics and sculptures in the unexcavated parts of the ancient city. I believe that mosaics equivalent to or more beautiful than the Gypsy Girl Mosaic can be found in places to be excavated in the future. The field where we work is a very small part of the city. The most difficult thing here is that there is an intense layer of fill because the city was established on a slope. We can reach the artifacts after removing a layer fill of 13 to 14 meters,” Erol said.
 
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By Muzahim Zahid Tuzun

KAYSERI, Turkey
http://aa.com.tr/en/culture-and-art/ancient-writing-in-turkey-dated-back-to-2000-bc/903639

Clay tablets dating back 4,000 years show the beginnings of writing and literacy in ancient Anatolia, in the middle of modern-day Turkey, according to researchers.

Excavations in the province of Kayseri, southeast of Turkey’s capital Ankara, at an ancient tumulus or burial mound shed light on writing from around the year 2000 B.C., said Fikri Kulakoglu, a professor of archeology at Ankara University and head of the excavation team.

In 70 years of excavations at the Kultepe tumulus, 25 kilometers (15.5 miles) northeast of Kayseri, some 23,000 cuneiform-script tablets have been found.

“These are the first written tablets in Anatolia. Anatolian people learned how to read and write in Kultepe. The first-ever literate people in Anatolia are from Kayseri,” said Kulakoglu.

Many of the tablets excavated are exercise tablets, apparently used by children to practice their writing.

The reading exercises in scripted tablets are signs of school-like instruction, he said.

Ancient day traders

Alongside the practice tablets are ones used for trade or business, Kulakoglu said.

The tablets were used to record anything “valuable,” he explained.

“These tablets show that local merchants made their presence in Anatolia alongside the Assyrians,” a people from a civilization in ancient Mesopotamia, he said.

Kulakoglu added that the clay tablets excavated from Kultepe are among the rarest in the world.

Kultepe has been candidate for the UNESCO World Heritage List since 2014.

According to UNESCO’s website, the site of Kultepe was the capital of the ancient Kingdom of Kanesh and center of a complex network of Assyrian trade colonies in the 2nd millennium B.C
 
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