Discredited & Radical Imam Asserts that Terrorism Is 'Part of Islam'

[illusion8]

You will accept his word because it fits your hindutva agenda of hate.

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Thread Title changed - This here is a poster boy of hate and nobody takes him seriously except people who like to fan Islamophobia.

@illusion8 - Better take care next time you put up a misleading thread title. The article title says "Radical Imam" and you missed that part. Why? Article title is misleading in itself, why make it worse?

No intention to hype the BS - the OP says it all.

 

[waz]

He is not an "Imam" of anything but his 120 or so followers in the UK. He is not a scholar, has no Ijazah to teach fiqh or aqeedah, he has not studied at any Islamic institution and has been defeated in many a debate.

I have met him in person and destroyed his silly assertion that there has been a caliphate for 1400 years, unchanged, unbroken. This was back in the early 90's when this idiot was with HT.

First of all this guy is not an imam.

Secondly he is a well known hate preacher which no Muslims except a handful of his followers take this guy seriously.

Thirdly here's your so called imam
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This is a very common trend for these types. They go from one extreme to another i.e. partying like crazy, sleeping around, taking drugs, criminality etc, and then just one day bam, flip and embrace crazy extremist ideals.

 

[Imran Khan]

Exactly... You nailed it

جب بھی کوئی مجھے سادہ تاویلات اور سنی سنائی آیات اور احادیث سے قائل کرنے کی کوشش کرتا ہے مجھے اسکی زہنی پسماندگی کا فورآ احساس ہو جاتا ہے اور وہ میری نظروں میں ایک چھوٹا سا بچہ بن جاتا ہے ۔ میں اس سے مزید کسی بحث میں پڑے بغیر اسکی ہاں میں ہاں ملا کر اسے تسلی دے دیتا ہوں کیونکہ اسکا زہن میرے ملحد زہن سے کئی سو گنا کم معلومات کا حامی ہوتا ہے ۔ فلسفہ کہنے کو سب کے سامنے کہا جا سکتا ہے پر اسے ہضم کرنا ہر دور مین چند لوگوں کے بس میں ہوتا ہے اس لیے اسے عام و خاص سے بچا کر رکھنا پڑتا ہے خاص طور پر مقلدوں سے

 

[Green Arrow]

I heard this guy on TV many time. He is known as a extremist.

 

[illusion8]

Best way to defeat people like him is by sticking to your morals and using the power granted by law and civil liberties. He must have excellent legal council to have survived so long.

An educated society like the UK and here is a total buffoon that's making a whole bunch of people look bad. I don't understand the logic - even the people who debate against him make sure that they maintain their civility while they are debating against a bastard. I mean, what's the limit or the red line that one needs to cross to make a billion people look ridiculous on national tv?

 

[Dubious]

I hate Taliban but Taliban also have 30 suparas(Quran) in heart... They will tell you every surah. You can Google them & listen them. They have more knowledge than you. Usama bin ladin was hero for majority of Muslims, MMA came due to U.S.A/Afsghan war. but Now, he became terrorist when Taliban started attack on pak forces.Old Jihad V new jihad!!

Dude dude...I know of many quran hafiz who drink alcohol...

I know of many Arabs who also drink alcohol..when in the very quran the quran hafiz have memorized it says intoxicants are bad for you and you should abstain....and Arabs knowing the language also still drink

It is not ALL about knowledge it is also about how much you bother to understand and then apply it...hence the word A'MAAL...

Sane people prefers , "listen to both sides".

You listen to both sides I understand but you also inflated him to the level of an Imam....Imam means a leader to lead you in prayers....and usually.....or at least by shariah should be from a pious man who doesnt lie and deceive people

He must have excellent legal council to have survived so long.

He studied law anyone wanting to bring him down he cries the racism/ discrimination and what not card....

just one day bam, flip and embrace crazy extremist ideals.

basically another way to hit the attention level they wanted...

An educated society like the UK and here is a total buffoon that's making a whole bunch of people look bad. I don't understand the logic - even the people who debate against him make sure that they maintain their civility while they are debating against a bastard. I mean, what's the limit or the red line that one needs to cross to make a billion people look ridiculous on national tv?

the basic thing is those who reject him are those who have even the basics about Islam right...if not then they have done their own research and come to the conclusion this one is a moron....

Those who have the habit of listening to others or are too lazy to do their own bit of research fall prey very easily...

In UK as long as you abide to the law you cant be touched...if you are and you know your law you can pull out the racist or discrimination card....like he does

Many dont know the loop holes of the law some just are not bothered to take him on coz they think he is a waste...the sad part is the media who loves to show him at every chance they get

 

[FNFAL]

UK is just too soft on these types of pigs....until the state doesnt make examples, expect more of this animal's ilk to flourish

 

[Dubious]

He is slandering your name in Britain more than any random terrorist group in the ME could ever do. Nonmuslims extrapolate this one individuals beliefs onto the whole of British Islamic society.

Many swat him away like a fly just the media loves the attention he gets and gives him more...positive feedback mechanism

They say never trust a lawyer or a politician.

Well I dont know about that but he really sounds insane ..I never manage to hear his full debates coz I cant tolerate him

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

I think best UK muslims can do is either attack or beat him up,nothing serious-just a lesson or better lodge a case against him for spreading hatred and defaming them.

 

[Gunsnroses]

I hate Taliban but Taliban also have 30 suparas(Quran) in heart... They will tell you every surah. You can Google them & listen them. They have more knowledge than you. Usama bin ladin was hero for majority of Muslims, MMA came due to U.S.A/Afsghan war. but Now, he became terrorist when Taliban started attack on pak forces.Old Jihad V new jihad!!

Sane people prefers , "listen to both sides".

@Imran Khan

Just making a point indirectly concerned with the topic. This googling to study Islam and studying religion on your own generate shits like Anjem Ch. and his likes.

I do agree that he is still free to spread his filth for a "known" cause.

 

[Jay12345]

I think best UK muslims can do is either attack or beat him up,nothing serious-just a lesson or better lodge a case against him for spreading hatred and defaming them.

I'll right hook him if everyone here donates some money

 

[Azadkashmir]

anjem choudry is mi6 patsy. news media gives him full coverage but why not other scholars. BBC is mouth piece of mi6.

 

[illusion8]

the basic thing is those who reject him are those who have even the basics about Islam right...if not then they have done their own research and come to the conclusion this one is a moron....

Those who have the habit of listening to others or are too lazy to do their own bit of research fall prey very easily...

In UK as long as you abide to the law you cant be touched...if you are and you know your law you can pull out the racist or discrimination card....like he does

Many dont know the loop holes of the law some just are not bothered to take him on coz they think he is a waste...the sad part is the media who loves to show him at every chance they get

That's all fine and dandy - what I am more inquisitive about is what does it take to beat the sh!t out of him when he steps out of the studio or any one of his brainwashing sessions? I would have done it personally if he was supposedly a scholar of my religion and had said something about my religion.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

anjem choudry is mi6 patsy. news media gives him full coverage but why not other scholars. BBC is mouth piece of mi6.

What does MI6 gain from spreading civil stryfe in britain?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

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You listen to both sides I understand but you also inflated him to the level of an Imam....Imam means a leader to lead you in prayers....and usually.....or at least by shariah should be from a pious man who doesnt lie and deceive people

I knows name of many Imam leading Al-quaida , commanders in TTP . Yeah, i also knows many Mullah & their work.. One was friend, he went to chakla many times, i said him many times that you are hafiz and you teaches quran to children but he never listen this.I gave him number of call girls and he goes there.
There are many cases in Rawalpindi when they seduces children, kisses them while reciting Quran & cases of rape. In this country, you can't trust Mullahs because they are less educated, shouts when ask to defend , blasphemy fatwas when no answer. There are few good ulema but in very less numbers..