Did turkish sultans destroy the ummah with their ottaman multiculture policy?

[Zhukov]

What a weird post.
Kiddo if there were no ottomons, Muslims political power would have been gone ages before. Mongols obliterated Arabs to pieces. And hijaz was hopelessly vulunerable and exposed in hands of weak remaining Abbasids. Any potent attack by a huge force would have seen total distruction of Muslim heart lands.
Turks rose and took the political rein of Islam in their hand and protected it for 1000 years. yes almost 1000 years. Rest of muslim world was a joke.
Only Iran and Mughal India were other mentionable powers but Mughals came much after rise of ottoman turks.
And believe me at the end of ottoman empire It was Arabs who betrayed, Turks managed to defended mainland turkey and anatolia against Brits very well. All credit goes to Arabs for backstabbing Ottomans

 

[LordTyrannus]

Mongols obliterated Arabs to pieces.

Look my Saudi Arabian friends. What this pakistani has said. Mongols/Turks obliterated you. he said.

This is the truth.

They took away your ummah and your sharia political power/mandate from you. only to destroy it in 1923 with kamal ataturk, who abolished the islamic caliphate.

You must understand, that turkey is only a lackey of western nato powers. They refused to send you troops in you darkest hours and just made lip services with erdogan.

They only want to exploit you and sell you their irrelevant western made weapon system, which not even have turkish engines like the altay tank which uses german engines.

germans will put an embargo on their MTU engines and will not sell them to your country, like they did not sell you their leopard2 tanks.

You must think very good about the last events. You must search for new strong partners with industrial base. Russian federation is such a partner.

We can sell you advanced weapons like Suchoi T-50 advanced Stealth Fighter craft for your air force. We can sell you submarines, warships, Tanks, most advanced tanks in the world. with robotic turret and active defence system to protect the lifes of your heroic soldiers.

 

[Hell NO]

what does egyptians know about saudi russia relations?

egypt is just a lackey of Saudi kingdom.

Russia is also not supporting assad. Russia just supports christian minority in Syria, who face extinction because of radical CIA creation human flesh eaters from FSA.

-Apparently I know more than you about saudi russian relations
- egypt is not a lackey of anyone prove egypt is creating strong ties with russia something saudi arabia dislikes.
-FSA are terrorists for you and me but not for saudis for them they are freedom fighters

 

[LordTyrannus]

-Apparently I know more than you about saudi russian relations
- egypt is not a lackey of anyone prove egypt is creating strong ties with russia something saudi arabia dislikes.
-FSA are terrorists for you and me but not for saudis for them they are freedom fighters

saudis was disgusted from communism. but that is gone. Russian federation is now a deeply religious nation.

egypt is lackey of everyone.

you are so poor, i feel pitty for your people.

still you walk around in forums and talk big like egypt is somebody of importance. that is not the case.

lol

 

[matmat26]

Is Turkey, NATO's servant?
Funny.

You see Russia as a global power ..
You just can not be a global power with military power.

Technology you old ruin your industry, your old and declining population, do not have money, you have a geography infrastructure inadequate and defense.
Only oil and gas.

The population is growing neighbors. Making technology and military investment. No one region between the years 1700-1900 as follows. All developing countries militarily.
4x, 6x ....

Grew region because of the weakness of the country. Now they are stronger.

Russia's future is not bright. Your only hope of ballistic and nuclear missiles.

In the 2nd World War, the US helped you. Thousands of aircraft, tanks, armored vehicles gave.
Russia, the United States was the dog did?

You will see that change within 50 years from the Russian border.

 

[Oublious]

Is Turkey, NATO's servant?
Funny.

You see Russia as a global power ..
You just can not be a global power with military power.

Technology you old ruin your industry, your old and declining population, do not have money, you have a geography infrastructure inadequate and defense.
Only oil and gas.

The population is growing neighbors. Making technology and military investment. No one region between the years 1700-1900 as follows. All developing countries militarily.
4x, 6x ....

Grew region because of the weakness of the country. Now they are stronger.

Russia's future is not bright. Your only hope of ballistic and nuclear missiles.

In the 2nd World War, the US helped you. Thousands of aircraft, tanks, armored vehicles gave.
Russia, the United States was the dog did?

You will see that change within 50 years from the Russian border.

don't talk to that troll... you are wasting your time....

 

[LordTyrannus]

Is Turkey, NATO's servant?
Funny.

You see Russia as a global power ..
You just can not be a global power with military power.

Technology you old ruin your industry, your old and declining population, do not have money, you have a geography infrastructure inadequate and defense.
Only oil and gas.

The population is growing neighbors. Making technology and military investment. No one region between the years 1700-1900 as follows. All developing countries militarily.
4x, 6x ....

Grew region because of the weakness of the country. Now they are stronger.

Russia's future is not bright. Your only hope of ballistic and nuclear missiles.

In the 2nd World War, the US helped you. Thousands of aircraft, tanks, armored vehicles gave.
Russia, the United States was the dog did?

You will see that change within 50 years from the Russian border.

You think Russia is still like in yeltsin era, where noone could manage proper change from communist system to democratic/capitalist system.

But Putin changed everything. He renewed the Russian state and the armed forces.

You are simply an illiterate peasant from the third world.

go read some data sheets.
look

population growing again

 

[Hell NO]

saudis was disgusted from communism. but that is gone. Russian federation is now a deeply religious nation.

egypt is lackey of everyone.

you are so poor, i feel pitty for your people.

still you walk around in forums and talk big like egypt is somebody of importance. that is not the case.

lol

-"deeply religious country" I have been in russia before 85% of people there do not believe in God so shut up
secondly saudis do not care if you are religious or not all they care about is the russian support to assad and the relations with Iran
- saying that Egypt is a lackey to saudi arabia
is like saying that russia is a lackey to china
- there are poor people in every country including your own. again china is a third world country and they are putting cash in your pockets
(Don't mean to offend any russian as I am a russia supporter myself)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Look my Saudi Arabian friends. What this pakistani has said. Mongols/Turks obliterated you. he said.

This is the truth.

They took away your ummah and your sharia political power/mandate from you. only to destroy it in 1923 with kamal ataturk, who abolished the islamic caliphate.

not sure how a constructive discussion can take place when you have such controversial questions so this thread has to be closed for now