Did Pakistani elite invite Zia?

[Kabira]

Recently I've learned about General Rani who owned brothel in 70's and likes of Yahya Khan and Bhutto were her clients. Generals and politicians used to go to her to advance their careers openly. Can you imagine what will happen to them in today Pakistan? Now just like any other 3rd world country difference between elite lifestyle and poor was huge. I'm sure poor people also wanted to use rani brothel services and drink alcohol which was legal back then but couldn't.

Zia knowing that soon all that anger will come out from poor who are watching these elites drinking alcohol openly, dancing naked in parties payed by poor tax payers etc He imposed martial law to clean up Pakistan. Now Pakistan will become tolerant of what other people do with time and when there is less gap between lifestyle of elites and average Pakistani.

Another reason to like Zia, thank you very much. Otherwise Pakistan would have become Afghanistan where stupid king forced his western secularism/way of life on ultra religious tribal population.

@lastofthepatriots

 

[HAIDER]

no, read the role of foreign elements for the creation of IJI.

 

[Kabira]

no, read the role of foreign elements for the creation of IJI.

Liberal lifestyle of Pakistani elite back then was the reason behind Zia policies. When meetings used to be held in brothels between generals and prime minster. Bhutto used to openly drink alcohol.

 

[HAIDER]

Liberal lifestyle of Pakistani elite back then was the reason behind Zia policies. When meetings used to be held in brothels between generals and prime minster. Bhutto used to openly drink alcohol.

well, 70s has it's own style.

 

[wiseone2]

Recently I've learned about General Rani who owned brothel in 70's and likes of Yahya Khan and Bhutto were her clients. Generals and politicians used to go to her to advance their careers openly. Can you imagine what will happen to them in today Pakistan? Now just like any other 3rd world country difference between elite lifestyle and poor was huge. I'm sure poor people also wanted to use rani brothel services and drink alcohol which was legal back then but couldn't.

Zia knowing that soon all that anger will come out from poor who are watching these elites drinking alcohol openly, dancing naked in parties payed by poor tax payers etc He imposed martial law to clean up Pakistan. Now Pakistan will become tolerant of what other people do with time and when there is less gap between lifestyle of elites and average Pakistani.

Another reason to like Zia, thank you very much. Otherwise Pakistan would have become Afghanistan where stupid king forced his western secularism/way of life on ultra religious tribal population.

@lastofthepatriots

sex is a basic biological drive
Not sure what the problem is

 

[Kabira]

sex is a basic biological drive
Not sure what the problem is

Not with poor people money.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Bhutto used to openly drink alcohol.

Take this "with a pinch of salt":

Liaquat Ali Khan wrote a letter of resignation to Jinnah . “Personal & Confidential Karachi 27.12.47

My dear Quaid-i-Azam,

My wife has related to me what you told her last night at your dinner. I am sorry to learn that she has incurred your displeasure for some unknown reason. She could not possibly have done anything to merit such strong criticism and condemnation as for you to say that she was impossible and that she was digging her own grave................

A memorandum was written which recorded the event. it was penned by Liaquat’s wife’s close English friend, Kay Miles: “This draft letter of Liaquat’s requires a little background note: The actual incident which gave rise to Mr. J’s remarks to Begum Sahiba was her non-acceptance of a glass of sherry (which she dislikes) when she sat near him at his birthday dinner party........

 

[Kabira]

Take this "with a pinch of salt":

Liaquat Ali Khan wrote a letter of resignation to Jinnah . “Personal & Confidential Karachi 27.12.47

My dear Quaid-i-Azam,

My wife has related to me what you told her last night at your dinner. I am sorry to learn that she has incurred your displeasure for some unknown reason. She could not possibly have done anything to merit such strong criticism and condemnation as for you to say that she was impossible and that she was digging her own grave................

A memorandum was written which recorded the event. it was penned by Liaquat’s wife’s close English friend, Kay Miles: “This draft letter of Liaquat’s requires a little background note: The actual incident which gave rise to Mr. J’s remarks to Begum Sahiba was her non-acceptance of a glass of sherry (which she dislikes) when she sat near him at his birthday dinner party........

Jinnah is forgiven for making Pakistan, he can eat pig for all I care. But generals and politicians using brothels and drinking alcohol openly with poor people money isn't acceptable.

 

[HAIDER]

Jinnah is forgiven for making Pakistan, he can eat pig for all I care. But generals and politicians using brothels and drinking alcohol openly with poor people money isn't acceptable.

Bhutto got so much power after Islamic conference, west made up there mind to knock em down. Liaqat Ali Khan was knock down by CIA from two hired agents from Afghanistan. Reason can be discuss later. Fatima Jinnah was knock down because she contested election against " dictator" .
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/opinion/blog/miss-jinnah-the-forgotten-queen
@Azlan Haider @niaz
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/88144-pna-iji-so-on-and-so-forth
Tesky, you are opening pandora's box of military dirty role in Pakistani democracy.

 

[Kabira]

Another mistake people make is to think Zia is responsible for religious Pakistan, at least in punjab. How wrong are they? Proper islam was introduced in punjab in 20th century by Muslim League to win votes for Pakistan.

First mobilise large pool of population for some purpose which is achieved. Then elite continue with Mughal/British rulers lifestyle in expense of poor people which is unislamic. Zia was khabar ka azab for brothel going army and political elite.

Bhutto got so much power after Islamic conference, west made up there mind to knock em down. Liaqat Ali Khan was knock down by CIA from two hired agents from Afghanistan. Reason can be discuss later. Fatima Jinnah was knock down because she contested election against " dictator" .
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/opinion/blog/miss-jinnah-the-forgotten-queen
@Azlan Haider @niaz
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/88144-pna-iji-so-on-and-so-forth
Tesky, you are opening pandora's box of military dirty role in Pakistani democracy.

Bhutto didn't get any power. He was drunk and like a dictator, he was product of Ayub Khan. Just look what he did to opposition in interior Sindh by using state machinery. They all joined Zia because of that. PPP still have same old mindset of wadera. They play victim in punjab and talk about roti kapra aur makan for poor to get votes. But in Sindh PPP behave like waderas.

 

[HAIDER]

Another mistake people make is to think Zia is responsible for religious Pakistan, at least in punjab. How wrong are they? Proper islam was introduced in punjab in 20th century by Muslim League to win votes for Pakistan.

First mobilise large pool of population for some purpose which is achieved. Then elite continue with Mughal/British rulers lifestyle in expense of poor people which is unislamic. Zia was khabar ka azab for brothel going army and political elite.

Read PPP and PNA agreement. And also role of Mufti Mehmood for imposing sharia in Pakistan. PPP was badly blackmail by mullah clan. Later Zia implement the phansi and kora ki saza on PPP workers.

Look at his humble good chap... Between the masters.

Another mistake people make is to think Zia is responsible for religious Pakistan, at least in punjab. How wrong are they? Proper islam was introduced in punjab in 20th century by Muslim League to win votes for Pakistan.

First mobilise large pool of population for some purpose which is achieved. Then elite continue with Mughal/British rulers lifestyle in expense of poor people which is unislamic. Zia was khabar ka azab for brothel going army and political elite.



Bhutto didn't get any power. He was drunk and like a dictator, he was product of Ayub Khan. Just look what he did to opposition in interior Sindh by using state machinery. They all joined Zia because of that. PPP still have same old mindset of wadera. They play victim in punjab and talk about roti kapra aur makan for poor to get votes. But in Sindh PPP behave like waderas.

well that is generalized opinion. After all he is the father of Pakistan nuclear program, he brought back 90,000 prisoner of war, heavy industry taxila, set up steel mill, organized Islamic conference etc ... . a drunk person can t take these might step.

 

[Kabira]

well that is generalized opinion. After all he is the father of Pakistan nuclear program, he brought back 90,000 prisoner of war, heavy industry taxila, set up steel mill, organized Islamic conference etc ... . a drunk person can t take these might step.

He also used to visit rani brothel for advice and sleep with young girls. Brought back 90,000 after signing shimla agreement, its not like India was going to slaughter them.

Pakistan is still paying for steel mill in Karachi.

 

[Zibago]

Its because of him mullahs go boom boom

After all he is the father of Pakistan nuclear program

Nope Abdul Salam is

 

[HAIDER]

Its because of him mullahs go boom boom


Nope Abdul Salam is

He won Noble prize for research work in Physics.

He also used to visit rani brothel for advice and sleep with young girls. Brought back 90,000 after signing shimla agreement, its not like India was going to slaughter them.

Pakistan is still paying for steel mill in Karachi.

Well, during Musharraf era and till Zia era , Steel mill was in profit. It all depend on govt intention. Yes Shimla agreement was great success of his diplomacy . I think when you guys see Zia is your favorite leader then its pointless to discuss any further. He is the one who jump in Afghan war to stay in power. But eventually once the job is done ..... bye bye

 

[Kabira]

Read PPP and PNA agreement. And also role of Mufti Mehmood for imposing sharia in Pakistan. PPP was badly blackmail by mullah clan. Later Zia implement the phansi and kora ki saza on PPP workers.

Pakistan was made in the name of Islam by getting vote from religious motivated people. Now what do you think was going to happen after getting freedom from goras? If one wanted to drink alcohol openly then why not remain with Hindus, but elite didn't like that either.

We love the idea of not having to live under hindu raj right? Religious population came with package which elite ignored for decades till Zia.