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Demolition of Madina Masjid, Tariq Road on Encroached Land!!

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Well, it's not going to be easy for the government/state of Pakistan to remove this^^ illegally constructed mosque-cum-residence that is associated with the Deoband Jamia Uloom Al Islamia Binori Town seminary. As per wiki, Some of the notable "graduates" of the aforementioned "Jamia uloom" are:
 
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So it is okay if people start seizing other people's lands and start making illegal constructions anywhere? Because it is occupation for a person

See this is the dirty pit you fall into when you start justifying evil of a powerful man with ridiculous reasonings. And this is why society loses its sense of right and wrong like that of Pakistan is today. They see these ridiculous reasons given for powerful man and they follow their evil actions.

Justice doesn't care for a person's status or power.

I would say a person doing illegal things is even worse because he does it for his own benefit. Whereas this mosque is acceptable to the people and is done for the benefit of people. But this is the twisted logic Pakistanis have, they find wrong with benefit of people and everything is OK with illegal evil acts of powerful individuals

Son,

You want to build the house on illegal land and want to justify it as well---that creates a rot in the society---only the true enemies of Islam would do that.
 
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Here is the warning from Mulllaa to Chief Justice.

I know this guy very well.. he is anti mullah himself… I don’t think your heading matches with the content in the video as I was watching it couple of hours ago before you posted it

his point was … firstly he grilled mullahs for building Mosque on illegal land and requested people not to visit such mosques to discourage such trend however he further went on to say since the Judges quarters and the 300 acres of house for Prime Minister can all be legalised so they should legalise this mosque also as it can provoke many in Pakistan if you went on to demolish it. He was proposing that the Government should make a settlement by charging the cost of this land and take action against authorities who did not stop the construction at right time as it must have taken years to build it after collecting donations in phases
 
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I know this guy very well.. he is anti mullah himself… I don’t think your heading matches with the content in the video as I was watching it couple of hours ago before you posted it

his point was … firstly he grilled mullahs for building Mosque on illegal land and requested people not to visit such mosques to discourage such trend however he further went on to say since the Judges quarters and the 300 acres of house for Prime Minister can all be legalised so they should legalise this mosque also as it can provoke many in Pakistan if you went on to demolish it. He was proposing that the Government should make a settlement by charging the cost of this land and take action against authorities who did not stop the construction at right time as it must have taken years to build it after collecting donations in phases

If you watched it couple of hours thats great. I could not find video about this mulla warning that's why I shared engineer video.
But how mulla became aggressive to say these words to your honorable chief justice ?
Engineer also mention where was the institute when they were building Mosque and some retired army officer also built homes (Faith, Unity and discipline:disagree:) ?
why not your honorable chief justice take action against govt institute ?
why he not hang all Sindh building control authority and Karachi development authority big crocodiles ?
 
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2 things Land Mafia's use to grab the land permanently

1) Build a Mosque on illegally grabbed land
2) Build a graveyard.

No one would dare to take that land back for the government.

No muslim country allows any mosques or graveyards in illegal land. This is done mostly in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
or just send some wardi walla for chowkidari and land is yours!
 
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Is it permitted in sharia to build places of worship on illegally encroached land or by any other un-fair means?
name me three things our jahil mullahs doing as per sharia ?

sahaba e karam work and earn money spend on islam that money our haram khor mullah sit and eat in masjids 24/7
no muslim have right to say other is kaffir but our jahil mullahs do
they are raping kids in madrasas day night
you will se ever fassad unrest and tension created by a mullah from 1970s until today .
 
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Is it permitted in sharia to build places of worship on illegally encroached land or by any other un-fair means?
Think someone going to Hajj using money obtained through bribery or robbery!
Do you think Allah is even lower than these cheap family limited politicians who attract people in their jalsa on day payment that He shall accept people praying for him in a masjid built on illegal land?
One of His Name is الصمد، one Who is Totally Independent
The One to Him all turn for their recourse.

Allah was there before He made earth 4.543 billion years before, He shall be after there is no more.
ويبقي وجه ربك ذو الجلال والإكرام
Yet still abides Face of your Lord, Majestic, and Splendid!

Worship is just one part, and it should be entirely free from any contamination of illegitimacy.
 
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These traders of religion take great pride in burning poor people’s property, torturing ordinary citizens and destroying public property …… what’s the big deal in taking over some land???

these guys can do anything on the name of religion .

They have destroyed religion --- and probably turned away millions of youth from Islam by following a ridiculous and fringe literalist interpretation of the texts. NO government/army high command is willing to deal with them properly.
 
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They have destroyed religion --- and probably turned away millions of youth from Islam by following a ridiculous and fringe literalist interpretation of the texts. NO government/army high command is willing to deal with them properly.
most important parts of getting away from religion is also funny and stupid ideas of mullahs . in 1980s and 90s this is how mullah was doing on TV . today a mullah can not live without tv.

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Taliban launch TV smashing operation in Kabul
Taliban launch TV smashing operation in Kabul
TV sets hanged by Taliban

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KABUL, July 30,1998 (AFP) - Heavily-armed Taliban militia fighters launched a series of raids on electronics shops in the Afghan capital, smashing and taking away dozens of television sets and video players, an AFP reporter witnessed.


Mobile teams from the Ministry for Fostering Virtue and Suppressing Vice sealed off a bustling city center street as part of a huge operation set to hit the entire war-weary city.


Armed with automatic rifles, the bearded fighters were seen hurling television sets out of shops onto the street. Two soldiers were seen tossing sets from the balcony of a two-storey shop.


The sounds of the exploding sets sent some residents scurrying for cover, apparantly mistaking the bangs for gunfire. Frustrated store-owners could only look on powerless.


"Try not to hurt the people," Deputy vice and virtue minister Mawlawi Qalamuddin yelled to his fighters on the loudspeaker from his off-road pick up vehicle, itself full of confiscated sets.


"We had told these people to turf these stuff out within 15 days," he told AFP, stressing that all the remaining televisions would be smashed and collected from all the city shops now the ultimatum had expired.

 
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I feel sorry for the poor labourer who will be asked to bulldozer it down for his family gets a meal to eat
 
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So it seems like there is a liberal lobby which is always waiting to jump on any incident to tarnish the image of Islam, Muslims, and Ulema. Here is the explanation by Mufti Tariq Masood Damat Barakatuhul 'Aalia


1. If the Masjid had been constructed on a personal property, then it would be wajib to demolish that mosque. As a matter of fact, it would not be Jaiz (permissible) to even pray in that mosque.
2. Park belongs to the public.
3. Now, first of all, within the government's urban planning, no space is allocated for mosques, ever. Most mosques are constructed on spaces allocated for parks, hospitals, schools. This is incompetence of the government. The government has not allocated spaces for mosques in proportion to population.
4. So the park was for the public. But the public constructed a mosque there and is giving importance to the mosque instead of the park. The public knows there are a number of parks and recreational spaces that exist already. Also, an individual would use the park just once a day, whereas the mosque is needed 5 times a day. When the government does not provide space for a mosque, then people will construct it on the space allocated for the park.
5. If this was something illegal, why has this matter been left for 25 years? You could have demolished it after one month, two or three months.
6. Demolishing the mosque shows a lack of God Fearliness. In the minds of people, this space is now associated with mosque and praying. When these people see the park after the mosque is demolished, would they not be reminded of the Azans coming from this place, the prayers that were conducted there? How could a devout Muslim perform recreational activities there?
7. Let us see what is the meaning of Masjid. It means to transfer something from one's ownership into the Ownership of Allah the Almighty. Thus, Ulema are unified on the point that once a space has been designated for a mosque, it remains a mosque until the Day of Judgement, because you have given it into the Ownership of Allah and you cannot reclaim its ownership. Even the person who has dedicated the space cannot reclaim it. So this is not an enmity with Molvis, this is an enmity with Allah the Almighty Himself.
8. It is to be noted that in other countries 'government property' is actually called 'public property'. But we use the term 'government property'. These terms matter. They create an image that the government is now the sole and independent owner. The government owns nothing. What belongs to the government is actually the property of the public. The government has not right to intrude on public property.
9. This same tragedy befell Nasla Tower. People have been living there for such a long time. The Mufti Sahib says that the owner attends his Bayans and he told him that this is a great injustice because all documents of this tower were completed. He says it is impossible for a builder to build anything before legalizing it. Your law is so complicated that even after a building is constructed and 15, 20, or even 30 years have passed, anyone can bring up some paper and initiate legal proceedings against it. The builder was saying that we are demolishing the building as instructed, but the government needs to tell us from whom we should obtain permission for any other construction? In the current system, one officer can sign the papers but if he gets transferred and someone else comes in, he can deny the legality given by the previous one. Now since the government is at fault for the delay, the court should have ordered the government to pay damages to the owners and the builder before the building is demolished. He says I am proposing payment of damages before demolition because there is no guarantee the government will actually pay the damages.
10. If this was a case of illegal encroachment upon a public road etc, we would have supported the removal of the encroachment by the mosque.
Lo ji ab molvi sey suney ham encroachment ka kia karna
this is pure lie and need to be corrected

F-10 sector of islamabad have allocated mosques inside sectors but mullah have grabbed land in green belt make madrasas on land for green belt worth billion of rupees . how many of you forum members can buy 10 kanal land in F-10 sector of islamabad ?


7 mosques are planned as per lay out 2 are in green belt land grabbed

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market price of this land

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Same story in i-9,i-8 and i-10
Naley kay aas pass prime real estate par qabza jamao
 
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Nobody is above than law. Everybody should accept court order. Mufti & Mullahs should accept it and should not create fasaad just due to court order of demolition of mosque built illegally.

That is obvious. The more pressing question is: what do you do when they don't accept it, given that their sympathizers (those who share the same views) are in the tens of millions at least, and are present within all institutions.
 
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