Corps Commanders' Conference at GHQ - No compromise on Kashmiris' right to self determination: COAS

[litman]

So if i will accept all of your argument then iska matlabye hey kay bas phir aap chup karkay bhaeet jayeen agla aap ke maarta rahay sorry to say kyoonkay aap ko ceasefire karna parayga, unke manpower ziada hey, unkay paas conventional superiority hey and etc etc and etc..... istarhan jagain nahe lare jati agar ye baat darust the tu why you initated wars 3 times over J&K ?? apna banda kyo marwatay rahay hain??

Truth ye hey kay aap ke ye current fooj ki leadership WITHOUT any plan....pehlay ye Nawaz Sharif kay kanday pe bandook rakh kar chaltay rahay hain aur pata tha kay woh kuch bolayga nahe tu ulta wohi zaleel huta rahayga.. ub inhonay Khan kay kanday pe bandook rakh kar chalaye hey.... Khan nay jo kaam government ka huta hey usnay kardiya hey ub bari inke hey aur trust me... if you won't esclate what so ever the reason, you wiill not only forget Jammu & Kashmir, you will later loose not only AJK but also complete deterence...

In today's world you fight WARS just to PROVE your strength and capability not kay asa hojayega wesa hojayega phir ham kya kareengay... phir aap CHOOPTAY rahain...

nothing is going to happen in AK. as far as IOK is concerned we should forget it. we dont have any option on the table other then speeches. within next few years this issue will die down and become a new normal. the fault doesnt lies entirely with the military. our government failed to upgrade pak military the way it should be. and it is also a fact that we can never have numerical superiority over india.
in today's world no country even dares to engage in a direct war. even US couldnt muster up enough courage to attack north korea.

 

[Aryan0395]

India:- Any Pakistani misadventure will be given a befitting reply.
Pakistan:- Any Indian misadventure will be given a befitting reply.
Basically neither side is in the mood to escalate.

 

[Ultima Thule]

1

General
Tikka Khan HJ, HQA, SPk
(1915–2002) 3 March 1972 1 March 1976 3 years, 364 days 2 Fd Regt Arty
2

General
Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq
(1924–1988) 1 March 1976 17 August 1988 12 years, 169 days 13 Lancers
3

General
Mirza Aslam Beg NI(M), SBt
(born 1931) 17 August 1988 16 August 1991 2 years, 364 days 16 Baloch
4

General
Asif Nawaz NI(M), SBt
(1937–1993) 16 August 1991 8 January 1993 † 1 year, 145 days 5 Punjab
5

General
Abdul Waheed Kakar NI(M), SBt
(born 1937) 11 January 1993 12 January 1996 3 years, 1 day 5 FF
6

General
Jehangir Karamat NI(M), TBt
(born 1941) 12 January 1996 6 October 1998 2 years, 267 days 13 Lancers
7

General
Pervez Musharraf NI(M), TBt
(born 1943) 6 October 1998 28 November 2007 9 years, 53 days 16 (SP) Medium Regt Arty
8

General
Ashfaq Parvez Kayani NI(M), HI(C)
(born 1952) 29 November 2007 29 November 2013 6 years, 0 days 5 Baloch
9

General
Raheel Sharif NI(M), HI(M)
(born 1956) 29 November 2013 29 November 2016 3 years, 0 days 6 FF
10

General
Qamar Javed Bajwa NI(M), HI(M)
(born 1960)




ALL THE ABOVE SAID THE SAME THING.........GENERAL SAHIB--------BUT J&K WAS NOT ANNEXED BY INDIA TILL 5TH AUGUST....2019...IN YOUR TIME........

INDIA HAS ALREADY CUT JUGLER VEIN........... BUT WE ARE STILL IN SALAMI TACTIC,S..

a remarkable commander hazarat QAQA... SAID , .........BUZDIL,S ARE AFRAID OF WAR...

Don't be stupid war is not a problem solver but complicate situations more and do you want to kill billions of people in subcontinent

 

[war&peace]

@litman @Stealth

Guys wars are not fought for business but for survival and principles. Our religion teaches us to stand for oppressed people and Kashmiris deserve that we fight for them because we are the only people who can help them in this world and we say Kashmir is our jugular vein. Any country that has its jugular vein occupied by its enemy, I'm sure that country would have fought regardless of the price it has to pay.

I give you a very crude example, if your powerful neighbours kidnaps your sister, would you think in terms of profit or loss or you will pick up an arm and fight regardless of the consequences?

And if we are thinking in terms of profits and loss then you can we expect rest of the world to stand on principles and support us? They also think in terms of profits and loss and that's exactly KSA and UAE did so why did we get triggered? after all they are also thinking in terms of business

I like Iran for one thing that despite the whole world standing against it, it stands on its feet and does not bow. If they think that supporting Palestinians is a right thing or supporting Bashar ul Assad in Syria or Houthis in Yemen, they stand on their feet and facing the whole world and I have a lot more respect for them.

Why are we so afraid of death or economical issues? Don't we have faith?
If so then we will never get dignity and honour in this world. This world respects the brave and perseverant people.. just check Taliban.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Speeches and statements are useless.we lost Kashmir and we should move on.it is already 2 months since 370 abrogation.they are changing everything,picking young people one by one and we all know entire Kashmir leadership is in jail or probably killed.i think it's time to accept the reality and move on.we have nothing to offer.we were relying too much on Muslim ummah chumma and India successfully breaks our nexus with Arabs.

I think any military action can only possible on our side and not their side.they are very aggressive and it's better for us to stop making fool of ourselves.i feel sad when I think about Kashmir and how we lost it quite easily.we didn't even offer them fight because of our pathetic economy.

 

[litman]

@litman @Stealth

Guys wars are not fought for business but for survival and principles. Our religion teaches us to stand for oppressed people and Kashmiris deserve that we fight for them because we are the only people who can help them in this world and we say Kashmir is our jugular vein. Any country that has its jugular vein occupied by its enemy, I'm sure that country would have fought regardless of the price it has to pay.

I give you a very crude example, if your powerful neighbours kidnaps your sister, would you think in terms of profit or loss or you will pick up an arm and fight regardless of the consequences?

And if we are thinking in terms of profits and loss then you can we expect rest of the world to stand on principles and support us? They also think in terms of profits and loss and that's exactly KSA and UAE did so why did we get triggered? after all they are also thinking in terms of business

I like Iran for one thing that despite the whole world standing against it, it stands on its feet and does not bow. If they think that supporting Palestinians is a right thing or supporting Bashar ul Assad in Syria or Houthis in Yemen, they stand on their feet and facing the whole world and I have a lot more respect for them.

Why are we so afraid of death or economical issues? Don't we have faith?
If so then we will never get dignity and honour in this world. This world respects the brave and perseverant people.. just check Taliban.

you are absolutely right but look at us . we are only so called muslims. our past actions are evidence that we always bow in front of the powerful. we are the most corrupt nation in the world. dont compare pak with iran . they have guts which we lack. also dont compare pak with saudia and uae. they have got resources and they utilized them well for their own people. we also have got some resources but our rulers used them for their own interests . riko diq is the greatest example. we lack worldly knowledge and religious knowledge and our decision makers use the ignorance of their own benefits. today our economy in tatters and miserable. we are divided and people love corrupt rulers. although i dont like hassan nisar but sometimes he is right. what have we given to the world? are we capable of anything good ? the answer is a big NO. yes the way our governments are going i think very soon people will be dying of hunger so its better to announce jihad and give them an honorable death.