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Setting up field hospital at Expo Centre a ‘blunder’, say health experts

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Terming the establishment of a large field hospital at the Expo Centre Karachi a “big blunder”, leading health experts of the country on Friday demanded of the government to utilise large apartment buildings away from the city as isolation and treatment centres for people infected with coronavirus to prevent the healthy population from contracting the disease.

“The provincial government is committing a big blunder by establishing a field hospital at the Expo Centre Karachi for people infected with coronavirus. Ideally, such isolation and treatment centres are established away from the city to prevent the healthy population from getting infected,” said Dr Qaiser Sajjad, secretary general of the Pakistan Medical Association (PMA) while talking to The News.

Several other health experts, including public health experts, pathologists and infectious diseases experts, expressed their “shock and surprise” over the establishment of a field hospital for a highly contagious disease within the heart of the city, saying those who advised the government to set up an isolation centre at the Expo Centre were committing a “serious blunder”.

Dr Qaiser Sajjad said that since the outbreak had been reported in China, he had advised the government to establish quarantine facilities at the entry points of the province and the cities, but no heed was paid to the suggestion that isolation centres should be built away from the cities.

The government could still rethink its decision and relocate the isolation centre from the Expo Centre to some secure location along the Karachi-Hyderabad Motorway, or in Hub or Malir areas.

“There are dozens of apartment buildings, which are complete for living at a massive residential estate of Bahria Town on the Motorway, which is away from the city and can be used for setting up an isolation centre for thousands of people. At the same time, there are dozens of residential apartment complexes in Malir and other locations, far away from the population, which can easily be converted into isolation centres with the help of the army,” he added.

Another leading health expert, Prof Dr Tahir Shamsi, also opposed the establishment of a field hospital in the heart of the city at the Expo Centre and said the government should review the decision and establish the isolation centre for the confirmed patients of COVID-19 at some far away location on the outskirts of the city.

“Firstly, it would be a nuisance for the many agencies and organisations as this would create traffic issues, and secondly it would endanger people living around the Expo Centre. Such hospitals should be established outside the city due to the sensitivity of the disease as it is highly infectious and contagious ailment,” Dr Shamsi added.

He said the government should explore the possibility of using an old technique, which is called ‘passive immunisation” in which plasma of the infected people is collected and transfused to people who are infected with the virus to create immunity among their bodies against the viral disease.

“The Chinese conducted experiments on a number of techniques and two of them worked really well for them. One was the use of anti-malarial drug Chloroquine and the other was using the technique of passive immunisation,” Dr Shamsi said and told the Sindh government that his team of experts at the National Institute of Blood Diseases (NIBD) could help the authorities in collecting plasma from the bodies of infected people and prepare it for those who were newly infected patients.

Another leading pathologist, Dr Zeeshan Ansari, strongly opposed the establishment of the isolation centre for COVID-19 patients at the Expo Centre, saying it would be a grave mistake as it would endanger the lives of millions of people living in the areas of Gulshan-e-Iqbal and the surrounding localities.

“Nowhere in the world are such isolation centres for highly contagious diseases established within the centre of the city. COVID-19 is an extremely contagious disease and isolation centres for such diseases are established far away from the residential areas,” Dr Zeeshan Ansari said and advised the government to utilise dozens of abandoned but complete residential facilities on the city’s outskirts to keep such patients.

“Such isolation centres can be established at each district of the city where abandoned residential complexes and hospital buildings are available,” Dr Ansari said.

He further advised the government to establish mobile testing labs and send them to different areas of the city to take samples of suspected patients, saying that at the moment, three to four labs that were offering the COVID-19 test were overburdened and refusing highly suspected patients, who were spreading the viral illness to others.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/63...l-at-expo-centre-a-blunder-say-health-experts
 
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Setting up field hospital at Expo Centre a ‘blunder’, say health experts

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632073_3694120_expo-karachi-corona_akhbar.jpg

Terming the establishment of a large field hospital at the Expo Centre Karachi a “big blunder”, leading health experts of the country on Friday demanded of the government to utilise large apartment buildings away from the city as isolation and treatment centres for people infected with coronavirus to prevent the healthy population from contracting the disease.

“The provincial government is committing a big blunder by establishing a field hospital at the Expo Centre Karachi for people infected with coronavirus. Ideally, such isolation and treatment centres are established away from the city to prevent the healthy population from getting infected,” said Dr Qaiser Sajjad, secretary general of the Pakistan Medical Association (PMA) while talking to The News.

Several other health experts, including public health experts, pathologists and infectious diseases experts, expressed their “shock and surprise” over the establishment of a field hospital for a highly contagious disease within the heart of the city, saying those who advised the government to set up an isolation centre at the Expo Centre were committing a “serious blunder”.

Dr Qaiser Sajjad said that since the outbreak had been reported in China, he had advised the government to establish quarantine facilities at the entry points of the province and the cities, but no heed was paid to the suggestion that isolation centres should be built away from the cities.

The government could still rethink its decision and relocate the isolation centre from the Expo Centre to some secure location along the Karachi-Hyderabad Motorway, or in Hub or Malir areas.

“There are dozens of apartment buildings, which are complete for living at a massive residential estate of Bahria Town on the Motorway, which is away from the city and can be used for setting up an isolation centre for thousands of people. At the same time, there are dozens of residential apartment complexes in Malir and other locations, far away from the population, which can easily be converted into isolation centres with the help of the army,” he added.

Another leading health expert, Prof Dr Tahir Shamsi, also opposed the establishment of a field hospital in the heart of the city at the Expo Centre and said the government should review the decision and establish the isolation centre for the confirmed patients of COVID-19 at some far away location on the outskirts of the city.

“Firstly, it would be a nuisance for the many agencies and organisations as this would create traffic issues, and secondly it would endanger people living around the Expo Centre. Such hospitals should be established outside the city due to the sensitivity of the disease as it is highly infectious and contagious ailment,” Dr Shamsi added.

He said the government should explore the possibility of using an old technique, which is called ‘passive immunisation” in which plasma of the infected people is collected and transfused to people who are infected with the virus to create immunity among their bodies against the viral disease.

“The Chinese conducted experiments on a number of techniques and two of them worked really well for them. One was the use of anti-malarial drug Chloroquine and the other was using the technique of passive immunisation,” Dr Shamsi said and told the Sindh government that his team of experts at the National Institute of Blood Diseases (NIBD) could help the authorities in collecting plasma from the bodies of infected people and prepare it for those who were newly infected patients.

Another leading pathologist, Dr Zeeshan Ansari, strongly opposed the establishment of the isolation centre for COVID-19 patients at the Expo Centre, saying it would be a grave mistake as it would endanger the lives of millions of people living in the areas of Gulshan-e-Iqbal and the surrounding localities.

“Nowhere in the world are such isolation centres for highly contagious diseases established within the centre of the city. COVID-19 is an extremely contagious disease and isolation centres for such diseases are established far away from the residential areas,” Dr Zeeshan Ansari said and advised the government to utilise dozens of abandoned but complete residential facilities on the city’s outskirts to keep such patients.

“Such isolation centres can be established at each district of the city where abandoned residential complexes and hospital buildings are available,” Dr Ansari said.

He further advised the government to establish mobile testing labs and send them to different areas of the city to take samples of suspected patients, saying that at the moment, three to four labs that were offering the COVID-19 test were overburdened and refusing highly suspected patients, who were spreading the viral illness to others.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/63...l-at-expo-centre-a-blunder-say-health-experts
Coronavirus factory right in the middle of the city.

People under quarantine broke out of facility in Sukker. This is the level of these assholes.
then use force to keep them in. call in rangers, police, everyone.
 
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Coronavirus factory right in the middle of the city.
Karachi has developed a cluster every where in the world field hospitals are made in the cities. Your cant make them outside the cities. One has to use existing infrastructure. There are probably thousands of people running around who dont even know they have corona. Its already too late.

Use of force i say shoot a couple of them it will fix them.

then use force to keep them in. call in rangers, police, everyone.
 
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2:30pm- Islamabad, Pakistan — US Embassy says two employees being quarantined in its premises
A US Embassy spokesperson on Saturday said an employee was currently being quarantined at the embassy premises.

“We are aware of reports of a COVID-19 case related to an Embassy Islamabad employee. Due to privacy concerns, we are not able to share additional information,” a US Embassy spokesperson said.

“We are aware of reports that a separate Embassy employee arrived at Islamabad airport on March 21 showing signs of illness. That employee is currently being evaluated,” the spokesperson said, adding they were coordinating with Pakistani authorities and implementing all appropriate measures to help control the spread of COVID-19.
 
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Then there are people who are making doom and gloom scenarios they need to take a break and at least learn the limitations of our country. We cant replicate lock downs in other countries and that a fact no one knows how long lock down will have to be extended a month or two and you will hear thousands of people killing themselves and their children because of hunger. You cant pay people like UK, US, and Germany is doing you dont have money. The only way we cant replicate even 20 percent of what they can do is by declaring a state of emergency and localized martial laws where ever they are needed which is almost impossible here due to the power structure.

I have seen patients who try not to go to Hospitals because that would effect their daily earning and only come when their problems are unbearable. Most of our people live hand to mouth. You know exactly how our people are these hoarders are gonna have a field day in case of lock down.

Italian scenarios will not be happen in Pakistan due to our young population. Italys over 60 population is 23 percent of their total. We have just 5.5 percent.
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And the Areas with Higher temperatures have flatters curves. So pray it increases as soon as it can.
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What we need to do is make sure our idiots follow proper guidelines and self isolate if they have any symptoms and dont self medicate. Our people have a habit of taking NSAIDs Specially Ibuprofen (Arinac, Brufen) in case of flue tell every one to stop taking them it will **** them up if their flue is due to COVID-19. Follow the GOP Guidlines.

Our dilemma is that GOP is trying to replicate South Korea with our foolish people and incompetent bureaucracy. Now there are some people who are saying we should lock down and GOP should provide Food to the needy a good idea the problem is even if we get the resources to do it our corrupt bureaucracy will do the same with what they BISP and fill their coffers.

What you need to do is tell everyone to stop self medicating if they have a flue with mild symptoms it will go away with out any treatment just Drink Plenty of Water and take Anti pyre tics like Penadol. Go to the hospital if it is causing you Respiratory distress. Keep your Elders inside house and isolated lock them in if you have to.

And GOP needs to get as many ventilators as they can get their hands on that will save thousands at least our hospitals will have ventilators after this.
 
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Coronavirus factory right in the middle of the city.


then use force to keep them in. call in rangers, police, everyone.
and you are not at all interested in knowing why they broke out?

All those who are asking for a complete lockdown, Plz come forward and take responsibility of one family (belonging to labor class).
 
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and you are not at all interested in knowing why they broke out?

All those who are asking for a complete lockdown, Plz come forward and take responsibility of one family (belonging to labor class).
well, the other alternative is to get ready for thousands of deaths. maybe it will one of your family members who die?
 
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well, the other alternative is to get ready for thousands of deaths. maybe it will one of your family members who die?
There must be a reason why they broke out --- I have no doubts this has got to do with pathetic arrangements.

There are thousands of families who can't afford a complete lockdown --- The useless govt must come forward with some relief --- At least they can reduce petrol prices (they won't be doing any favor) ---- and the rich class (demanding complete lockdown) must take responsibility of at least one family (who can't afford lockdown).
 
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and the rich class (demanding complete lockdown) must take responsibility of at least one family (who can't afford lockdown).
i am not rich, but i am not foolish either. better to suffer for a bit than to die or loose a loved one.
 
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