Asimzranger
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Good opportunity to eliminate PTM and blame it on crono
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Kindly don’t include me in your tangential strawman arguments and call-outs.As per @Jungibaaz this a completely constitutional demand and USA should immediately drop a MOAB on anarkali Lahore to fulfill this constitutional demand of very "peaceful and constitutional" PTM
Kindly don’t include me in your tangential strawman arguments and call-outs.
We had discussions in other threads, continue there if you have anything outstanding left to say.
Since the discussion in other threads was going in circles so i have decided to call you out everytime "peaceful and constitutional" leadership of ptm would open its mouth
So while we are here have we decided what bomb USA should drop on Lahore and Rawalpindi? What is your suggestion?
Ridiculous. I've already stated umpteenth times that I don't defend or agree with every seditious or stupid thing they say. And have already discussed such examples before.
It seems to me that you left those debates and left all my arguments where they are in order to take cheap shots in threads like this, while strawmanning me.
So kindly, either continue the discussion or quit mentioning me in these tangential threads.
If you're not sure what my response would be, you need to reassess your opinion of me and my time/content here at PDF. I won't say much more.
There is nothing to continue discussion
The difference between you and me is that you want to portray a racist anarchist movement like ptm as genuine rights movement while i refuse to call shit as gold and call it shit which it actually is
Now you can do all the fear mongering by bring in east Pakistan and all that but the thing is that ptm won't be happy with Pakistan even if we give them a mountain of gold
They want to break my country and people like you are helping them in that evil goal by supporting them and portraying them as a civil rights movement
There never was any difference between you and me on addressing genuine grievances of kpk and Fata people but the difference is on supporting ptm on the name of those grievances. You support ptm and present it as a representative of pashtuns in Pakistan instead of countering their lies and telling gullible people about their reality
I hear you, and I understand what you've been saying. I have only said that there is a reason why they exist and why tribals show up to their rallies and many support/echo their points. I've also plainly said that their race rhetoric is wrong, that their slogans against army etc are wrong and going too far.
But I won't delegitimize the entire movement based on this. I have through speaking directly to tribals heard similar grievances, and so I worry when people dismiss all of this as some sort of anti-state nonsense. I am no less patriotic than you, my worries and your worries are expressed differently it seems. This is a political disagreement, not a moral one.
I won't respond in this thread anymore, but if you want to continue this discussion, let's do it in the previous thread.