Connections between the Indus Valley (Harppan) & Mesopotamia

[Indus Pakistan]

@kaptaan Saheb iske bare me aap ka kaya kahayal hai???

I will read through it, digest it and then give my thoughts. but I will be looking out for bias in the report. If I see copious use of modern political names for tagging locations but conspicious use of geographic terms to avoid using 'Pakistan' it will only reinforce my suspicion that this study is driven by a agenda.

Laters !

Yet visited the page.

I just saw it now. I came home tired. Need to eat and then will read the study.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

I will read through it, digest it and then give my thoughts. but I will be looking out for bias in the report. If I see copious use of modern political names for tagging locations but conspicious use of geographic terms to avoid using 'Pakistan' it will only reinforce my suspicion that this study is driven by a agenda.

Laters !

I just saw it now. I came home tired. Need to eat and then will read the study.

Ok take your own time.

By the way I also late for bed.

Good night.

I will read through it, digest it and then give my thoughts. but I will be looking out for bias in the report. If I see copious use of modern political names for tagging locations but conspicious use of geographic terms to avoid using 'Pakistan' it will only reinforce my suspicion that this study is driven by a agenda.

If you know something little about Mr. David Reich you would not have said such things.

Any how take your own time.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

This is going to turn history on its head.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

@Indus Pakistan @Kabira

This is what Mr.David Reich has to say about Ancient DNA before here mentioned Paper.

Particularity about South Asia from 40:00 onwards.

ASI had Iranian Farmers DNA already much before advent of farming, and mixing with ANI population.

And the said paper clearly quantify that the Iranian Farmers DNA in India had already separated much before 12000BCE from their Iranian counterpart.

Only you see Yamnaya DNA - Steppe DNA (Along with Iranian Farmer DNA) which is related to predominately Caucasian Race, entered in North West South Asia i.e. Pakistan & Afghanistan much much later. And which is the Prominent DNA marker of present day Pakistanis.

 

[Kabira]

@Indus Pakistan @Kabira

This is what Mr.David Reich has to say about Ancient DNA before here mentioned Paper.

Particularity about South Asia from 40:00 onwards.

ASI already had Iranian Farmers DNA already much before advent of farming.

And the said paper clearly quantify that the Iranian Farmers DNA in India had already separated much before 10000BCE from their Iranian counterpart.

Only you see Yamnaya DNA - Steppe DNA (Along with Iranian Farmer DNA) which is related to predominately Caucasian Race, entered in North West South Asia i.e. Pakistan & Afghanistan much much later. And which is the Prominent DNA marker of present day Pakistanis.

hmm but we already knew about this more or less. Before steppe DNA, population consisted of mix Iran.N and indigenous south indian like. This study if anything is slap on the face of Hindutvas who deny aryan invasion in to India from north west.

The only new and interesting thing is Harappans Iran.N like ancestry being much older then farming in Indus valley. Which is not far fetched. People have been migrating from both sides in to indus valley for very long time. And it didn't stop till modern borders.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

hmm but we already knew about this more or less. Before steppe DNA, population consisted of mix Iran.N and indigenous south indian like. This study if anything is slap on the face of Hindutvas who deny aryan invasion in to India from north west.

The only new and interesting thing is Harappans Iran.N like ancestry being much older then farming in Indus valley. Which is not far fetched. People have been migrating from both sides in to indus valley for very long time. And it didn't stop till modern borders.

Shhheess!!! what a dumb interpretation!!!

The separation of Iranian DNA in India got separated from Iranian Branch much-much before 12000BCE, before advent of Farming in Iran.

Kindly note there is NO RECENT ADMIXTURE of Iranian DNA was found in Rakhigadi Samples. It was ANCIENT IRANIAN DNA(It is called IRANIAN DNA BECAUSE IT IS NAMED SO. It would have been named "NORTH INDIAN DNA" IF DISCOVERED IN RAKHIGADHI BEFORE IT GOT DISCOVERED IN IRAN). Hence AIT is foolish theory.

Kindly read whole Article presented here and all the Youtube Videos along with Video of MR.David Reich.

If you had read hole Paper presented here you would have known that infact the gene flow was in reverse direction of what you are suggesting. i.e. at this time the Gene flow was from from India to Iran and Central Asia.

Atleast read this and digest.

Multiple lines of evidence suggest that the genetic similarity of I6113 to the Indus Periphery Cline individuals is due to gene flow from South Asia rather than in the reverse direction. First, of the 44 individuals with good-quality data we have from Gonur and Shahri-Sokhta, only 11 (25%) have this ancestry profile; it would be surprising to see this ancestry profile in the one individual we analyzed from Rakhigarhi if it was a migrant from regions where this ancestry profile was rare. Second, of the three individuals at Shahr-i-Sokhta who have material culture linkages to Baluchistan in South Asia, all are IVC Cline outliers, specifically pointing to movement out of South Asia (Narasimhan et al., 2019). Third, both the IVC Cline individuals and the Rakhigarhi individual have admixture from people related to present-day South Asians (ancestry deeply related to Andamanese huntergatherers) that is absent in the non-outlier Shahr-i-Sokhta samples and is also absent in Copper Age Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan (Narasimhan et al., 2019), implying gene flow from South Asia into Shahr-i-Sokhta and Gonur, whereas our modeling does not necessitate reverse gene flow. Based on these multiple lines of evidence, it is reasonable to conclude that individual I6113’s ancestry profile was widespread among people of the IVC at sites like Rakhigarhi, and it supports the conjecture (Narasimhan et al., 2019) that the 11 outlier individuals in the Indus Periphery Cline are migrants from the IVC living in non-IVC towns. We rename the genetic gradient represented in the combined set of 12 individuals the ‘‘IVC Cline’’ and then use higher-coverage individuals from this cline in lieu of I6113 to carry out fine-scale modeling of this ancestry profile.

 

[Kabira]

Shhheess!!! what a dumb interpretation!!!

The separation of Iranian DNA in India got separated from Iranian Branch much-much before 12000BCE, before advent of Farming in Iran.

Kindly note there is NO RECENT ADMIXTURE of Iranian DNA was found in Rakhigadi Samples. It was ANCIENT IRANIAN DNA(It is called IRANIAN DNA BECAUSE IT IS NAMED SO. It would have been named "NORTH INDIAN DNA" IF DISCOVERED IN RAKHIGADHI BEFORE IT GOT DISCOVERED IN IRAN). Hence AIT is foolish theory.

Kindly read whole Article presented here and all the Youtube Videos along with Video of MR.David Reich.

If you had read hole Paper presented here you would have known that infact the gene flow was in reverse direction of what you are suggesting. i.e. at this time the Gene flow was from from India to Iran and Central Asia.

Atleast read this and digest.

But there is Iranian farmer ancestry in sample, much more then majority of modern Indian population and closer to Pakistani ones. And not finding steppe gene in sample from 4500 years ago actually proves aryan invasion theory because modern Indian population do have this gene.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Nowhere it is proved that it originated in Iran infect maximum diversity of this gene is in India.

watch this R1a has maximum diversity and frequency in India.

According to you AIT happened before 12000BCE ????? But max diversity & frequency is nowhere else but in India.

Instead of going through posted material you are repeating your agenda.

This what we call Lahori logic. Keep it up.

But there is Iranian farmer ancestry in sample, much more then majority of modern Indian population and closer to Pakistani ones. And not finding steppe gene in sample from 4500 years ago actually proves aryan invasion theory because modern Indian population do have this gene.

 

[Kabira]

Nowhere it is proved that it originated in Iran infect maximum diversity of this gene is in India.

watch this R1a maximum diversity and frequency in India.

According to you AIT happened before 12000BCE ????? But max diversity & frequency is nowhere else but in India.

Instead of going through posted material you are repeating your agenda.

This what we call Lahori logic. Keep it up.

Dude stop posting videos of RSS propaganda. Read some neutral reports on this study or continue to live in denial.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Dude stop posting videos of RSS propaganda. Read some neutral reports on this study or continue to live in denial.

Keep it up I really love Lahori logic of Pakistanies. I dont have to prove anything, you dont even know anything about Dr.Gyanrshwear Chobey, yet you painted him been of RSS.

Keep it up. My last reply to foolishness of yours.

Goodbye.

 

[Kabira]

Keep it up I really love Lahori logic of Pakistanies. I dont have to prove anything, you dont even know anything about Dr.Gyanrshwer Chobey, yet you painted him been of RSS.

Keep it up. My last reply to foolishness of yours.

Goodbye.

Goodbye, PDF isnt place for RSS propaganda.