Congradulation on breaking of Qouta System in Sindh

[Imad.Khan]

Hi,

Quota system is a must for sindh---. If pakistani born---so called " Mohajjirs " have a problem---they need to leave Karachi and make permanent residence in interior sindh---. Raise their children and families in small towns and cities where there are minimal facilities of health and education.

Sorry but i disagree, there is not a single success story because of quota system infact its proven that it had a direct negative impact. Merit is the only sure way to success, doesn't matter where you come from. Its the government's responsibility to provide same level of education and health across the country, not shun away talent in favour of mediocre.

To answer you about people leaving Karachi to move to interior Sindh is like asking you to leave the US to be car salesmen in Pakistan

 

[MastanKhan]

I agree to an extent. If quota system is abolished there might be no representation from Sindhis in their largest city. This will give life to Sindhudesh and JQSM type unknown organization. Muhajirs came to Pakistan and went for the golden duck, the prospering capital city of Karachi at that time.

How would people in Dubai feel if Villupuram Chinnaih from S.India ask them to abolish quota system and takeover their best city and let Arab wander in desert. Quote system is there to protect the right of locals. It should be improved but abolishing it will create more problem.

Hi,

Quota system is a must for sindh---.

Why have the " pakistani karachi born---calling themselves Muhajjirs " did not move out of karachi and lived elsewhere in sindh---.

If they had started to move out 25 years ago and spread out in rural sindh---by this time---" the pakistani born calling themselves Muhajjirs " would not have any problem with the jobs---and all this bit-ching and moaning that we hear---would have ended a long time ago.

Because after 5 to 10 years of residence---they would have received the local domicile---and now they would have called themselves sindhis.

The " Muhajjirs " have stolen the main city of sindh from the sindhis and now they want to steal the jobs as well while living in fine places and going to fine schools in karachi---ain't gonna happen.

They want those jobs---then get out of karachi---and live elsewhere in inner sindh---jobs will come to you.

 

[Kabira]

Misleading title, PPP will never allow that.

 

[MastanKhan]

To answer you about people leaving Karachi to move to interior Sindh is like asking you to leave the US to be car salesmen in Pakistan

Hi,

So---what is wrong in being a car salesman in pakistan---.

You are foreigners in karachi---Karachi is a city of sindh---. It is a capital of sindh---the sindhis can make their own laws in their state---. If they want quota system to protect their jobs---it is their right---they are in majority---.

You foreigners cannot do anything---unless you change your ethnicity that you have been hanging with for all these years---get the hate and superiority out of your hearts---stop looking down on sindhis and other ethnic groups---and live in sindh and become a sindhi---.

Accept it as your identity---accept sindh as your resource---your problem will be solved.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Hi,

So---what is wrong in being a car salesman in pakistan---.

You are foreigners in karachi---Karachi is a city of sindh---. It is a capital of sindh---the sindhis can make their own laws in their state---. If they want quota system to protect their jobs---it is their right---they are in majority---.

You foreigners cannot do anything---unless you change your ethnicity that you have been hanging with for all these years---get the hate and superiority out of your hearts---stop looking down on sindhis and other ethnic groups---and live in sindh and become a sindhi---.

Accept it as your identity---accept sindh as your resource---your problem will be solved.

Before calling me a foreigner maybe you should know who i am. My identity is Pukhtoon and i am proud of my ethnicity, I belong to a family that has given 1 shaheed and 3 ghazis in 65 and 71 wars. So please refrain from calling me a foreigner.

Now back to the topic. I stand by my statement that quota system is bad, its bad for people of Karachi and its bad for people of Sindh, which means its bad for Pakistan.

Merit should always overrule ethnicity.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Hi,

Quota system is a must for sindh---. If pakistani born---so called " Mohajjirs " have a problem---they need to leave Karachi and make permanent residence in interior sindh---. Raise their children and families in small towns and cities where there are minimal facilities of health and education.

Do you know only 40% is allocated for the three big cities Karachi,Hyderabad,Sukkur(Urban Sindh) and a whooping 60% for the rest of the rural Sindh 1 .If you take the populations in proportion (3:1) its grave injustice to the people in cities. And this thing is in place since 1973 but still it has failed to produce any results to uplift the rural Sindh infact things are far worse and also affecting the big Cities. Its not the reluctance of Urdu speaking people but Sindh govt, which has deliberately made its rural sindh a leverage to get the Sindh Govt.The problem is the Sindh govt. produces FAKE domiciles for their favorites who enjoy privileges not just in rural parts but also in the cities. thats like termites eating up resources.. I also want to mention that PPP politics rests on this quota system, the day its taken away people of Sindh will kick them out liike they never knew who bhutto was and will support other local feudal/nationalist parties, thats why Zardari is determined to keep this wild card by hook(elections) or crook(sindhudesh).

 

[HAIDER]

mohajir need to get out from Karachi and stop whining . Explore rest of the country, Karachi is not limit.

 

[Kabira]

Hi,

Quota system is a must for sindh---.

Why have the " pakistani karachi born---calling themselves Muhajjirs " did not move out of karachi and lived elsewhere in sindh---.

u.

There is a reason for that, muhajirs in Karachi were not settled and granted agricultural lands in rural areas of sindh or Pakistan in general as far as I know. That only happened to east punjabis and some other people living up to Haryana/Delhi which back then used to be part of greater punjab even if they spoke dialects of hindi. So for UP/biharis and other muhajirs only option left was Karachi or Lahore.

Thats why one find punjabi settlers or even other ethnic groups of Pakistan in interior sindh but not muhajirs.

 

[I.R.A]

The ratio being 43% for Sindh residents and 8% for major cities , 8% for each province of Pakistan.

That's 59% who gets the rest of 41%?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

I say.....What benefit quota system has caused to Sindhis. Amir matten of 92 news just said yesterday that literacy rate dropped by 4 percent in Sindh, very poor performance among all provinces. This quota system is not Sindhis, the local and common people, it is actually for PPP and its elite.

I mean, if Sindhis come on basis of merit, we will not shout but if tbhey acquire on posts just because they are Sindhis, we will have a problem.

Karachi city got lot of contribution from us. We work for it and we love it to our core. it is wrong to say Muhajirs (urdu speaking) do not speak Sindhi, yes they do, when in living in rural Sindh because over there everyone talks in Sindhi. While in Karachi, even Sindhis have to speak Urdu because majority of Karachiites won\t understand Sindhi language.

Just look at the performance of Sindh province. Just look at Karachi, PPP is ruining things their *** off......Should we let that happen?

What benefit Quota system has caused to Sindh except Sindhis get the job without any competition and then start messing all things around.

I can understand local people concerned. I have sympathy with rural population. How about this if they start earning education, give a tough time to us Muhajirs and then beat us so that they can earn that...

PPP elite gets threaten by Muhajirs. Thats it....This Quota system was implemented for 10 years initially and people were told that it is for only 10 years........But we were made fool....The real agenda was always for long term and hence we are seeing quota system till today....

 

[MastanKhan]

There is a reason for that, muhajirs in Karachi were not settled and granted agricultural lands in rural areas of sindh or Pakistan in general as far as I know. That only happened to east punjabis and some other people living up to Haryana/Delhi which back then used to be part of greater punjab even if they spoke dialects of hindi. So for UP/biharis and other muhajirs only option left was Karachi or Lahore.

Thats why one find punjabi settlers or even other ethnic groups of Pakistan in interior sindh but not muhajirs.

Hi,

That is a misleading statement----there are many a urdu speaking settlers in punjab doing agriculture---. The punjabi settlers came much later into sindh---.

You could have gone in there---in interior sindh---claimed a jungles or sand dunes from the state and leveled it and made agriculture land.

The option of karachi and lahore was of immediate opportunity---jobs and riches---which the mohajjirs enjoyed for many a years---.

If it was not for their racism---arrogance----and constant looking down upon other ethnicities---they would have faired much better.

Before calling me a foreigner maybe you should know who i am. My identity is Pukhtoon and i am proud of my ethnicity, I belong to a family that has given 1 shaheed and 3 ghazis in 65 and 71 wars. So please refrain from calling me a foreigner.

Now back to the topic. I stand by my statement that quota system is bad, its bad for people of Karachi and its bad for people of Sindh, which means its bad for Pakistan.

Merit should always overrule ethnicity.

Hi,

'You' was a term used in general---a part of a statement---and not directed as 'you' as a person---and in response to your post----

 

[LA se Karachi]

Hi,

So---what is wrong in being a car salesman in pakistan---.

You are foreigners in karachi---Karachi is a city of sindh---. It is a capital of sindh---the sindhis can make their own laws in their state---. If they want quota system to protect their jobs---it is their right---they are in majority---.

You foreigners cannot do anything---unless you change your ethnicity that you have been hanging with for all these years---get the hate and superiority out of your hearts---stop looking down on sindhis and other ethnic groups---and live in sindh and become a sindhi---.

Accept it as your identity---accept sindh as your resource---your problem will be solved.

No one should be forced to give up their ethnicity. And you call fellow Pakistanis "foreigners"?! It is you who seems to have "superiority" in your heart with a statement like that.

Everyone should be given jobs based on merit, not ethnicity. That makes no sense. And Sindhis aren't as much of majority in the province as you might think. No one should be propped up artificially. That benefits no one. Not even Sindhis. Yet another reason why Karachi is better off as a separate province.

It doesn't have much in common with interior Sindh. It never really did given that the British essentially made the small fishing village first into a British-dominated city, and then into a cosmopolitan city with people from all over the subcontinent. It has stayed true to its diverse, immigrant-established roots.

 

[MastanKhan]

No one should be forced to give up their ethnicity. And you call fellow Pakistanis "foreigners"?! It is you who seems to have "superiority" in your heart with a statement like that.

Everyone should be given jobs based on merit, not ethnicity. That makes no sense. And Sindhis aren't as much of majority in the province as you might think.

No one should be propped up artificially. That benefits no one. Not even Sindhis. Yet another reason why Karachi is better off as a separate province.

It doesn't have much in common with interior Singh and it never really did given that the British essentially made the small fishing village first into first British-dominated city and theniinto a cosmopolitan city people all over the subcontinent. It has stayed true to its diverse, immigrant-established roots.

Hi,



You want a seperate province---there is a place for you---how about Dalbandin / Nowshki---.

Karachi is still Sindh---.

Just like Los Angeles is still a part of california.

 

[LA se Karachi]

Hi,



You want a seperate province---there is a place for you---how about Dalbandin / Nowshki---.

Karachi is still Sindh---.

Just like Los Angeles is still a part of california.

Los Angeles is not different from the rest of California. And there are no official ethnic-based quotas for the majority, I assure you. No one here wants to leave California. That's a very foolish comparison. I don't know what you were thinking.

No one here is being pushed to give up their ethnicity or culture. And no one born here is called a "foreigner". Here in California, the most diverse state in the nation, we don't think the way you do.

And try responding to the rest of my post which you conveniently ignored. It's so sad that there are people who think like you in Sindh. It's been holding back the province for a long time, among other things.

 

[SBD-3]

Ranger's own hiring follows the same qouta system.

Qouta system provides less privileged people to get good jobs. For example, if pure merit system is introduced, most of the employment opportunities will be grabbed by either People from Lahore/Karachi/Islamabad because these cities have the best higher education infrastructure in the country. Furthermore, the top institution whose fee is still beyond the reach of lower middle class and below will help rich and upper middle class candidates to create hegemony on most lucrative opportunities.
Merit system is the way forward but then people should also stand ready to face and accept the consequences of implementing such system.