Condemn the New York attacker, but respect Bangladesh.

[Homo Sapiens]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...tacker-but-respect-bangladesh/article/2643165

OPINION
Condemn the New York attacker, but respect Bangladesh
by Tom Rogan | Dec 11, 2017, 4:38 PM

It's a very poor, but quite stable country. (AP Photo/A.M. Ahad)



Don't read too much into the fact that Akayed Ullah, the suspect in Monday's New York terrorist attack, is a Bangladeshi immigrant to the United States.

While Bangladesh is a predominantly Muslim nation, it is no hotbed of terrorism and shouldn't be added to Trump's travel ban list.

Of course, some aligned with the alt-right are jumping on Ullah's citizenship as further evidence of America's looming infection by Muslim extremism. Take John Cardillo...

Thank God Bangladeshi pipe bombs are the same shitty quality as everything else made in Bangladesh.— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 11, 2017

Suspect in custody.

Between the beard and him being from predominantly Muslim Bangladesh, I think we now know the motive. pic.twitter.com/Gyx4cV4iaH— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 11, 2017

Americans should have two problems with those tweets.

First, while more than 100,000 Bangladeshis live in the United States, very few of them have any nexus to terrorism. Instead, they came to America to work hard and provide better lives for their families. Indeed, especially relevant to today's news, the New York Police Department boasts a good number of Bangladeshi-American police officers. That's no coincidence; as former NYPD officer John Cardillo should know, the Bangladeshi-American community makes a point of encouraging law enforcement careers.

Second, while Bangladesh does struggle with occasional outbursts of violent Islamic extremism, its government and military take aggressive action of a far more coordinated and humanitarian nature than that of, say, Pakistan. The Bangladeshi armed forces also operate as an increasingly capable American ally. Moreover, while Bangladesh struggles with corruption, its political culture is more liberal than that of many other Muslim nations: next month, Bangladesh will have been led by a female Prime Minister for nearly nine years.

Consider, also, that this relative stability defines a deeply impoverished nation of 165 million people. The ingredients of terrorist recruitment would seem to thrive in Bangladesh and yet, for whatever reason, they do not thrive.

So yes, the New York attacker might be a complete loser. But don't blame his national origins on his negative acts; the Bangladeshi people deserve American respect and the right to be able to visit our country if they so desire.

 

[Mugwop]

Why not berate MTA for their poor security?

 

[bluesky]

December 12, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 02:39 PM, December 12, 2017
After NY bombing, Trump slams ‘chain migration’

Law enforcement officials work following an explosion near New York’s Times Square on Monday, December 11, 2017. Police said a man with a pipe bomb strapped to him set off the crude device in an underground passageway under 42nd Street between Seventh and Eighth Avenues. Photo: AP/Andres Kudacki

AP, New York

A would-be suicide bomber’s rush-hour blast in the heart of the New York City subway system failed to cause the bloodshed he intended, authorities said, but it gave new fuel to President Donald Trump’s push to limit immigration.
Hours after Monday’s explosion in an underground passageway connecting two of Manhattan’s busiest stations, Trump cited the background of the alleged bomber in renewing his call for closer scrutiny of foreigners who come to the country and less immigration based on family ties.

The man arrested in the bombing, Akayed Ullah — who told investigators he wanted to retaliate for American action against Islamic State extremists — came to the US from Bangladesh in 2011 on a visa available to certain relatives of US citizens.

“Today’s terror suspect entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security,” Trump said in a statement that called for various changes to the immigration system. Earlier, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Trump’s proposed policies “could have prevented this.”

In a scenario New York had dreaded for years, Ullah strapped on a crude pipe bomb with Velcro and plastic ties, slipped unnoticed into the nation’s busiest subway system and set off the device, authorities said.

The device didn’t work as intended; authorities said Ullah, 27, was the only person seriously wounded. But the attack sent frightened commuters fleeing through a smoky passageway, and three people suffered headaches and ringing ears from the first bomb blast in the subway in more than two decades.

“This is one of my nightmares ... a terrorist attack in the subway system,” Governor Andrew Cuomo told cable channel NY1. “The good news is: We were on top of it.”

Ullah was being treated for burns to his hands and abdomen but spoke to investigators from his hospital bed, law enforcement officials said. He was “all over the place” about his motive but indicated he wanted to avenge what he portrayed as US aggression against the Islamic State group, a law enforcement official said.

The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the blast.

Ullah’s low-tech bomb used explosive powder, a nine-volt battery, a Christmas light and matches, the officials said. Investigators said the suspect was seen on surveillance footage igniting the bomb.

In the end, it wasn’t powerful enough to turn the pipe into deadly shrapnel, the officials said.

Law enforcement officials said Ullah looked at IS propaganda online but is not known to have any direct contact with the militants and probably acted alone. Cuomo said there was no evidence, so far, of other bombs or a larger plot. The Democrat said officials were exploring whether Ullah had been on authorities’ radar, but there was no indication yet that he was.

The attack came less than two months after eight people died near the World Trade Center in a truck attack that, authorities said, was carried out by an Uzbek immigrant who admired the Islamic State group.

Since 1965, America’s immigration policy has centered on giving preference to people with advanced education or skills, or people with family ties to U.S. citizens and, in some cases, legal permanent residents. Citizens have been able to apply for spouses, parents, children, siblings and the siblings’ spouses and minor children; the would-be immigrants are then screened by U.S. officials to determine whether they can come.

Trump’s administration has called for a “merit-based” immigration system that would limit family-based green cards to spouses and minor children.

Ullah lived with his father, mother and brother in a Brooklyn neighborhood with a large Bangladeshi community, residents said. He was licensed to drive a livery cab between 2012 and 2015, but the license was allowed to lapse, according to law enforcement officials and New York City’s Taxi and Limousine Commission.

His family was “deeply saddened” by the attack but also “outraged by the way we have been targeted by law enforcement,” the family said in a statement sent by the New York Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. A teenage relative was pulled out of class and questioned in school without a parent, guardian or lawyer, the statement said.

Security cameras captured the attacker walking casually through a crowded passageway when the bomb went off around 7:20am A plume of white smoke cleared to show the man sprawled on the ground and commuters scattering.

Port Authority police said officers found the man injured on the ground, with wires protruding from his jacket and the device strapped to his torso. They said he was reaching for a cellphone and they grabbed his hands.

The last bomb blast in the subway system was believed to be in December 1994, when an explosive made from mayonnaise jars and batteries wounded 48 people in a car in lower Manhattan. Prosecutors said unemployed computer programmer Edward Leary set off the explosion to try to extort $2 million from the city’s transit agency; he claimed insanity. He was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to 94 years in prison.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

December 12, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 02:39 PM, December 12, 2017
After NY bombing, Trump slams ‘chain migration’

Law enforcement officials work following an explosion near New York’s Times Square on Monday, December 11, 2017. Police said a man with a pipe bomb strapped to him set off the crude device in an underground passageway under 42nd Street between Seventh and Eighth Avenues. Photo: AP/Andres Kudacki

AP, New York

A would-be suicide bomber’s rush-hour blast in the heart of the New York City subway system failed to cause the bloodshed he intended, authorities said, but it gave new fuel to President Donald Trump’s push to limit immigration.
Hours after Monday’s explosion in an underground passageway connecting two of Manhattan’s busiest stations, Trump cited the background of the alleged bomber in renewing his call for closer scrutiny of foreigners who come to the country and less immigration based on family ties.

The man arrested in the bombing, Akayed Ullah — who told investigators he wanted to retaliate for American action against Islamic State extremists — came to the US from Bangladesh in 2011 on a visa available to certain relatives of US citizens.

“Today’s terror suspect entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security,” Trump said in a statement that called for various changes to the immigration system. Earlier, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Trump’s proposed policies “could have prevented this.”

In a scenario New York had dreaded for years, Ullah strapped on a crude pipe bomb with Velcro and plastic ties, slipped unnoticed into the nation’s busiest subway system and set off the device, authorities said.

The device didn’t work as intended; authorities said Ullah, 27, was the only person seriously wounded. But the attack sent frightened commuters fleeing through a smoky passageway, and three people suffered headaches and ringing ears from the first bomb blast in the subway in more than two decades.

“This is one of my nightmares ... a terrorist attack in the subway system,” Governor Andrew Cuomo told cable channel NY1. “The good news is: We were on top of it.”

Ullah was being treated for burns to his hands and abdomen but spoke to investigators from his hospital bed, law enforcement officials said. He was “all over the place” about his motive but indicated he wanted to avenge what he portrayed as US aggression against the Islamic State group, a law enforcement official said.

The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the blast.

Ullah’s low-tech bomb used explosive powder, a nine-volt battery, a Christmas light and matches, the officials said. Investigators said the suspect was seen on surveillance footage igniting the bomb.

In the end, it wasn’t powerful enough to turn the pipe into deadly shrapnel, the officials said.

Law enforcement officials said Ullah looked at IS propaganda online but is not known to have any direct contact with the militants and probably acted alone. Cuomo said there was no evidence, so far, of other bombs or a larger plot. The Democrat said officials were exploring whether Ullah had been on authorities’ radar, but there was no indication yet that he was.

The attack came less than two months after eight people died near the World Trade Center in a truck attack that, authorities said, was carried out by an Uzbek immigrant who admired the Islamic State group.

Since 1965, America’s immigration policy has centered on giving preference to people with advanced education or skills, or people with family ties to U.S. citizens and, in some cases, legal permanent residents. Citizens have been able to apply for spouses, parents, children, siblings and the siblings’ spouses and minor children; the would-be immigrants are then screened by U.S. officials to determine whether they can come.

Trump’s administration has called for a “merit-based” immigration system that would limit family-based green cards to spouses and minor children.

Ullah lived with his father, mother and brother in a Brooklyn neighborhood with a large Bangladeshi community, residents said. He was licensed to drive a livery cab between 2012 and 2015, but the license was allowed to lapse, according to law enforcement officials and New York City’s Taxi and Limousine Commission.

His family was “deeply saddened” by the attack but also “outraged by the way we have been targeted by law enforcement,” the family said in a statement sent by the New York Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. A teenage relative was pulled out of class and questioned in school without a parent, guardian or lawyer, the statement said.

Security cameras captured the attacker walking casually through a crowded passageway when the bomb went off around 7:20am A plume of white smoke cleared to show the man sprawled on the ground and commuters scattering.

Port Authority police said officers found the man injured on the ground, with wires protruding from his jacket and the device strapped to his torso. They said he was reaching for a cellphone and they grabbed his hands.

The last bomb blast in the subway system was believed to be in December 1994, when an explosive made from mayonnaise jars and batteries wounded 48 people in a car in lower Manhattan. Prosecutors said unemployed computer programmer Edward Leary set off the explosion to try to extort $2 million from the city’s transit agency; he claimed insanity. He was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to 94 years in prison.

Due to this chain migration, a bunch of good for nothing people are going and polluting the west, while educated, hardworking and liberal minded young people are facing unequal competition and hard time going there, who could have positively contributed to the western economy as well as home country by sending remittance or return home with knowledge and skill.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I hope that the Americans bomb the heck out of Bangladesh now

Mr. Fox, you have lost your tail stealing the farmer's house, now you want all other foxes to loose their tail as well?

 

[Valar.]

Around 100K Palestinians live in USA.
Trump declared Jerusalem as Israel's capital and guess who went suicidal? A Muslim from South Asia.
Talk about screwed up priorities of non Arab Muslims.

 

[Fennec fox]

Around 100K Palestinians live in USA.
Trump declared Jerusalem as Israel's capital and guess who went suicidal? A Muslim from South Asia.
Talk about screwed up priorities of non Arab Muslims.

Exactly this

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Second, while Bangladesh does struggle with occasional outbursts of violent Islamic extremism, its government and military take aggressive action of a far more coordinated and humanitarian nature than that of, say, Pakistan.

Who the hell wrote this crap. in which country did ISIS find a foothold? which country saw a huge spike in incidents last year, and which one has seen an exponential decay?

and what does taking aggressive action in a "humanitarian nature" even mean? Is executing political rivals suddenly more humane than executing actual terrorists?

You dont have to associate Bangladesh with this terrorist, but you also dont need to create pure propaganda in order to throw others under the bus.

 

[Nilgiri]

Around 100K Palestinians live in USA.
Trump declared Jerusalem as Israel's capital and guess who went suicidal? A Muslim from South Asia.
Talk about screwed up priorities of non Arab Muslims.

BD's inherently are stupid and have no backbone for their homeland and even greater community interests once they desert it. Its why you see the nature of the defence types here in this subforum in regards to fantastic delusion being more important than pragmatic reality.

There will be long term consequences on BD people in the US now as a result.

You dont have to associate Bangladesh with this terrorist, but you also dont need to create pure propaganda in order to throw others under the bus.

You are expecting too much from such creature:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/with...t-targets-pakistan.519931/page-3#post-9895413

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Around 100K Palestinians live in USA.
Trump declared Jerusalem as Israel's capital and guess who went suicidal? A Muslim from South Asia.
Talk about screwed up priorities of non Arab Muslims.

Considering how angry the Bangladeshis are at China and Myanmar, one would have thought they might attack those countries.

But in the last month or so, one was arrested for trying to kill the UK's Prime minister and another one blew himself up in the USA.

 

[fallstuff]

Hang this guy.

 

[Sliver]

But in the last month or so, one was arrested for trying to kill the UK's Prime minister and another one blew himself up in the USA.

kinda never expected this from BD. I mean, the islamic angle is overplayed in the US - but for most part "islamic terror" usually means people from Middle east (bad stereotype, but that is what it is on the ground). Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia none of these are in that stereotype. now BD might be inadvertently added in the minds of the Americans along with that Middle east section.

 

[Avicenna]

kinda never expected this from BD. I mean, the islamic angle is overplayed in the US - but for most part "islamic terror" usually means people from Middle east (bad stereotype, but that is what it is on the ground). Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia none of these are in that stereotype. now BD might be inadvertently added in the minds of the Americans along with that Middle east section.

This is one individual. Seriously?

 

[KAL-EL]

I certainly don't hold people of Bangladeshi origin responsible for the actions of this individual.

It would be flat-out silly to do so.

 

[livingdead]

This is one individual. Seriously?

there has been series of terror incidents involving bangladeshis... if you combine US and europe... till now bd has been considered an ideal muslim country by the west.... not sure how long that will last if these sort of things keep happening.