Cold fusion reactor verified by third-party researchers, seems to have 1 million times the energy de

[DesiGuy]

Dude, I have an open mind on cold fusion. This thing has been lingering on for decades in many many labs man. And I think there might have been a hatchet job in suppressing the research.

I am not saying fusion tech itself is scam...i was referring to this particular company e-cat...if they really have proven tech, all they have to do is show in public. no need to get verified from "independent" researchers.

This is not the first time they have made this claim.

 

[Bilal.]

None of those experiments have resulted in useful power:

"So why don’t we have LENR reactors yet? Just like fusion, it is proving hard to build a LENR system that produces more energy than the energy required to begin the reaction. In this case, NASA says that the 5-30THz frequency required to oscillate the nickel lattice is hard to efficiently produce."

Key word "just like fusion" meaning the method has not been perfected yet but the theory seems sound to them. Plus, "NASA says that the 5-30THz frequency required to oscillate the nickel lattice is hard to efficiently produce". Moreover, you don't see them investigating water car do you

Very recently EM drive was also called a water car type scam

 

[VCheng]

Key word "just like fusion" meaning the method has not been perfected yet but the theory seems sound to them. Plus, "NASA says that the 5-30THz frequency required to oscillate the nickel lattice is hard to efficiently produce". Moreover, you don't see them investigating water car do you

Very recently EM drive was also called a water car type scam

The theory is the problem, since it cannot yield more power than what is put into the system, as NASA's experiments show.

 

[Bilal.]

The theory is the problem, since it cannot yield more power than what is put into the system, as NASA's experiments show.

It is like it took more power input than the output of the early fusion power experiment, that is what the NASA guys are poiinting to. If it was as simply dismissible as water car as some are pointing then agencies like NASA , US Navy would not even sanction investigation into it.

 

[Audio]

Quite interesting. Am very sceptical about this.

While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock. Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed volatile since…

 

[VCheng]

It is like it took more power input than the output of the early fusion power experiment, that is what the NASA guys are poiinting to. If it was as simply dismissible as water car as some are pointing then agencies like NASA , US Navy would not even sanction investigation into it.

Those types of investigations are no proof of a sound theory underlying the experiments. These types of evaluations happen all the time.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I am not saying fusion tech itself is scam...i was referring to this particular company e-cat...if they really have proven tech, all they have to do is show in public. no need to get verified from "independent" researchers.

This is not the first time they have made this claim.

Ok. I'm generally a bit tolerant coz traditionally cold fusion researchers have been hounded and harassed everywhere. Making any kind of claim seems to be an invitation to attacks from the mainstream scientific community. Almost makes me think of how companies like Glaxo attacked and discredited Dr. Barry Marshall's claims around Helicobactor Pyroli for 20 years until the nobel came to their rescue.

 

[Bilal.]

Those types of investigations are no proof of a sound theory underlying the experiments. These types of evaluations happen all the time.

But it does show that it's not as absurd as the water car otherwise you won't be seeing them experimenting on it.

 

[Audio]

The theory is the problem, since it cannot yield more power than what is put into the system, as NASA's experiments show.

With all due respect, all NASA and NIST managed is to build the world's largest laser to produce fusion, and now that that has failed it serves a a glorified incinerator. This isn't a jab at NASA or US or whatever, just, maybe you could entertain the notion that other people know something as well.

 

[Bilal.]

Ok. I'm generally a bit tolerant coz traditionally cold fusion researchers have been hounded and harassed everywhere. Making any kind of claim seems to be an invitation to attacks from the mainstream scientific community. Almost makes me think of how companies like Glaxo attacked and discredited Dr. Barry Marshall's claims around Helicobactor Pyroli for 20 years until the nobel came to their rescue.

The new church of scientific establishment burns the non compliant scientists on stakes of isolation, ridicule and career destruction.

 

[VCheng]

But it does show that it's not as absurd as the water car otherwise you won't be seeing them experimenting on it.

It is not absurd, merely useless as a feasible power source.

With all due respect, all NASA and NIST managed is to build the world's largest laser to produce fusion, and now that that has failed it serves a a glorified incinerator. This isn't a jab at NASA or US or whatever, just, maybe you could entertain the notion that other people know something as well.

Of course other people are welcome to work on this topic and indeed they must be. Perhaps you would like to inform us of what others have achieved with such investigations? Surely many nations around the world would like to have access to such promising technology too, if it is indeed true.

 

[Bilal.]

It is not absurd, merely useless as a feasible power source.

Tell that to NASA who find it worth investingating and investing money in.

 

[VCheng]

Tell that to NASA.

NASA already knows.

 

[Bilal.]

NASA already knows.

Not really. They did not reject it.

 

[VCheng]

Not really. They did not reject it.

They have not been able to get more energy out of it than was put it it, which makes it useless as a power source.