CO2 gas is our friend, not our enemy

[yugocrosrb95]

Exactly....they are many factors....what ever humans do are too trivial to change the climatic system!!!


You need to look up 'carbon cycle'!

You're ignorant... We humans cut down a lot of forest which produce air and consume CO2, that balance is basically gone at the level that we are creating polution that heats up the air and everything else...

If we had forest/nature like we did before we were starting to cut down trees then there would be no issue at all for us.

How do you idiot explain the difference between center of the city, edge of the city and forest itsself when it comes to temperature.

When I come from center to the edge of city, temperature difference is 2 to 3 celsius.

 

[Koovie]

Exactly....they are many factors....what ever humans do are too trivial to change the climatic system!!!

No it isnt!

Thats the point of even naming the current geological epoch the Anthropocene.

No serious scientist doubts the fact that we have profound influence on the system Earth.

Unimaginable amounts of CHs which have been "stored" in sediments for tens to hundred of millions of years have been released in a couple of decades since the industrial revolution (Which are NOTHING in the geological sense of time!).

Make no mistake... this isnt gonna destroy the planet which is 4.6 Ga old. The Earth has always been changing! ... But for us humans (Who only live for a fraction of a second compared to the age of everything else) with our current system of civilization these changes will have very serious effects on us (Our future generations).


I guess this illustrates the impact of industrialization quite well. Sure it was necessary to advance human civilization, but we should seriously reconsider the use of certain energy sources.

 

[egodoc222]

You're ignorant... We humans cut down a lot of forest which produce air and consume CO2, that balance is basically gone at the level that we are creating polution that heats up the air and everything else...

If we had forest/nature like we did before we were starting to cut down trees then there would be no issue at all for us.

How do you idiot explain the difference between center of the city, edge of the city and forest itsself when it comes to temperature.

When I come from center to the edge of city, temperature difference is 2 to 3 celsius.

You don't know what you are talking...give it a rest!!

No it isnt!

Thats the point of even naming the current geological epoch the Anthropocene.

No serious scientist doubts the fact that we have profound influence on the system Earth.

Unimaginable amounts of CHs which have been "stored" in sediments for tens to hundred of millions of years have been released in a couple of decades since the industrial revolution (Which are NOTHING in the geological sense of time!).

Make no mistake... this isnt gonna destroy the planet which is 4.6 Ga old. The Earth has always been changing! ... But for us humans (Who only live for a fraction of a second compared to the age of everything else) with our current system of civilization these changes will have very serious effects on us (Our future generations).


I guess this illustrates the impact of industrialization quite well. Sure it was necessary to advance human civilization, but we should seriously reconsider the use of certain energy sources.

But the 'stored carbon' over a period of time is known be released into the atmosphere one way or the other....with or without human involvement!!! No?

 

[Koovie]

You don't know what you are talking...give it a rest!!


But the 'stored carbon' over a period of time is known be released into the atmosphere one way or the other....with or without human involvement!!! No?

Yes but again: Not at this rate and over millions if not hundred of millions of years through plate tectonics, which isnt really the fastest thing known to man.

Again: Such changes happen within long periods of time, not within a couple of hundreds of years.

My point is: Human civilization exists only for a fraction of time compared to the age of the Earth. These man made changes happened before several times. But they happened over longer ... much much longer periods of times. At this rate, we will have to suffer serious consequences.

Look at these two illustrations:

The one for the last 550 Ma

And now this one for just the last 200 years (Pre 19th century does not matter here):

 

[ultron]

Man is after all a part of nature, a tiny part of nature. What man does is of course natural. If CO2 goes to 500 ppm, so be it. If CO2 goes to 1000 ppm, so be it. Nature is about change. Nature always changes.

 

[Faiez]

In the begginning of the video, he says that carbon dioxide levels are lower than ever. Then at the end of the video he says the due to higher carbon dioxide level the earth has become greener.

So where exactly is the carbon dioxide level truly ?

 

[ultron]

In the begginning of the video, he says that carbon dioxide levels are lower than ever. Then at the end of the video he says the due to higher carbon dioxide level the earth has become greener.

So where exactly is the carbon dioxide level truly ?

Lower than 5 million years ago. Higher than any time from 4 million years ago till 2014.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I beg to differ. CO2 level 5 million years ago was about 415 ppm. Temperature back then was much hotter. But remember, the hotter, the more CO2 in the air as the ocean out gasses. Think of the CO2 in your coke bottle. When you open the bottle, the coke becomes warmer and CO2 blows right out of the bottle. The higher the temperature, the less CO2 in the ocean, the less ocean acid level, the more CO2 in the air.

The optimum CO2 level should be about 1000 ppm. At this level, animals are not harmed and at the same time plant growth is significantly boosted.

In order to do that you have to grow forests at the same time as increasing CO2, instead we are cutting down forests and increasing the CO2 level. Oxygen levels will gradually drop, and I don't think that would be beneficial animal life.

I would probably prefer the Carboniferous: O2 @ 32.5% vol., CO2 @ 800 ppm; or the Permian: O2 @ 23% vol., CO2 @ 900 ppm.

 

[ultron]

Oxygen levels will gradually drop, and I don't think that would be beneficial animal life.

Oxygen will drop to 19.995% when CO2 increases to 1000 ppm. At that point, it's not lack of oxygen that will kill everyone, it would be due to CO2 suffocation.

 

[Koovie]

Oxygen will drop to 19.995% when CO2 increases to 1000 ppm. At that point, it's not lack of oxygen that will kill everyone, it would be due to CO2 suffocation.

You are a still making your retard statements without any proof ?

Gosh... please go back to school.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Oxygen will drop to 19.995% when CO2 increases to 1000 ppm. At that point, it's not lack of oxygen that will kill everyone, it would be due to CO2 suffocation.

You just said C02 at 1000 ppm are optimum and wouldn't kill animals and now you say the opposite.

The optimum CO2 level should be about 1000 ppm. At this level, animals are not harmed and at the same time plant growth is significantly boosted.

What are you drinking?

 

[ultron]

You just said C02 at 1000 ppm are optimum and wouldn't kill animals and now you say the opposite.

Humans are evil. After humans are extinct, 1 million years later, dolphins will take over the world and burn fossil fuels when they industrialize.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Humans are evil. After humans are extinct, 1 million years later, dolphins will take over the world and burn fossil fuels when they industrialize.

Troll...

 

[Koovie]

Humans are evil. After humans are extinct, 1 million years later, dolphins will take over the world and burn fossil fuels when they industrialize.

Wow, I always feel like a fu**ing genius when reading your mental diarrhea