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Chinese Officials Admitted to Fudging Some Economic Data

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Even a time of heightened uncertainty, a majority of markets agree upon one thing: Chinese data is unreliable, particularly figures released by regional governments.

Making the case for market mistrust, a report from Xinhua, a state-run government news agency, released over the weekend stated that "several" local officials in China's Northeast region admitted to faking economic data in recent years to show high rates of growth when the real numbers were much lower.

According to the China Daily website, citing Xinhua, several officials acknowledged they had significantly overstated data ranging from fiscal revenue and household income to gross domestic product.

"If the past data had not been inflated, the current growth figures would not show such a precipitous fall," one unnamed official told Xinhua, attempting to explain why growth rates across the region were now among the lowest in the country.

Reflective of just how sharp the deceleration in regional growth has been, Xinhua notes that three years ago Liaoning province's GDP growth was reported at 9.5 percent, more than triple its current rate of 2.7 percent.

While he has long moved on, current premier Li Keqiang was formerly the party committee secretary of the province in the 1990s.

Jilin, to Liaoning's north, reported growth of 12 percent three years ago, almost double the 6.3 percent rate recorded so far in 2015. Speaking to the China Daily, an unnamed source in provinces finance department said local officials competed against one another to lure external investment projects.

"They reported the promised investment value, whether it had been achieved or not, as the investment figure," the source said.

Guan Yingmin, an official in Heilongjiang province—the most northern of all China's provinces—said past investment figures were inflated by at least 20 percent, which translates to nearly 100 billion yuan ($15.7 billion) according to calculations provided by Xinhua.

Though the general perception is that national data is more accurate than that offered by regional governments, many analysts believe that official economic data—including closely watched GDP—is overstated by China's government.

In September, Goldman Sachs' chief Asia-Pacific economist, Andrew Tilton, suggested that China's economy was growing "a bit below 6 percent," citing the bank's China activity indicator gauge.

Addressing CNBC's Delivering Alpha Conference in July this year, Bill Miller, CEO of LMM Investments, told investors "you can't trust the numbers." The remark came in response to Chinese economic growth being reported at 7 percent in the year to June, in line with government forecasts.

In the September quarter of 2015 the government reported that economic growth slowed to 6.9 percent, a figure that beat the median economist forecast for a rate of 6.8 percent.

In three of the prior four GDP reports growth was reported 0.1 percent higher than the figure markets had been expecting.

Chinese government officials exaggerated data to paint a rosy picture of economic growth.
 
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They lied about the data. Did Chinese officials also use their privileged knowledge to advance and secure their personal profits?
 
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They lied about the data. Did Chinese officials also use their privileged knowledge to advance and secure their personal profits?

Its Greece all over again, just this time they aren't going bankrupt.
 
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Its Greece all over again, just this time they aren't going bankrupt.

When China grows very fast, their gov will under report the number to decrease the chance of inflation. When it's economy slows down, it will over report to balance out over reporting for obvious purposes. So its quarterly report is actually not trustworthy. But it's long term growth numbers are fairly accurate.
 
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CN economy is collapsing, every one know that. We even predicted correctly when RMB fall.

RMB will be in chao in bt 6 years, thats inevitable.
 
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Read up on Gordon Chang.

Your Chang is short vision, he could not fore see the fall of RMB like Vnese.


According to VN news CN devaluated RMB again due to export tumble.

In 10,dec 1US equal 6,4236 RMB, but in 14,dec 1 US equal wt .6,4495
 
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CN economy is collapsing, every one know that. We even predicted correctly when RMB fall.

RMB will be in chao in bt 6 years, thats inevitable.
Wow Chinese economy is collapsing so hard that the $12 trillion economy will grow by 7% this year. Now compare that with the $200 billion banana economy of vietnam that won't even reach a 5% growth this year.
 
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Wow Chinese economy is collapsing so hard that the $12 trillion economy will grow by 7% this year. Now compare that with the $200 billion banana economy of vietnam that won't even reach a 5% growth this year.
Growing by dirty trick,money manipulation, will lead you to No where but a fatal collapse when daddy US create TPP and say No to Cnese products :)
 
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Your Chang is short vision, he could not fore see the fall of RMB like Vnese.


According to VN news CN devaluated RMB again due to export tumble.

In 10,dec 1US equal 6,4236 RMB, but in 14,dec 1 US equal wt .6,4495

That was a big drop. A less than .5 percent drop. I sense the desperation that would make Gordon Chang sound reasonable.

Wow Chinese economy is collapsing so hard that the $12 trillion economy will grow by 7% this year. Now compare that with the $200 billion banana economy of vietnam that won't even reach a 5% growth this year.

I wonder how much of that 5 percent Vietnamese GDP growth is from the mail order bride industry.
 
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Only some local governments doing,and are being corrected now.

Still better than some other country that fudges number at federal level.:azn:
 
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CN economy is collapsing, every one know that. We even predicted correctly when RMB fall.

RMB will be in chao in bt 6 years, thats inevitable.
This statement sounds like Vietnam can surpass China as world N.o2 economy, indeed ridiculous!CN economy is collapsing, we already collapsing thousand times ... i knew that, make ur ppl high. :enjoy:
 
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CN economy is collapsing, every one know that. We even predicted correctly when RMB fall.

RMB will be in chao in bt 6 years, thats inevitable.
If China doesn't collapse in 6 years, will you film your self committing suicide?
 
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