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ByteDance is not backing down from its ambitions to become a global technology powerhouse, even as TikTok loses its largest market India and faces insurmountable challenges in the US. But some in China are blasting the Beijing-based company as too accommodating and yielding to US demands.

ByteDance said it will “remain committed to our vision to become a globalized company” despite the flurry of challenges thrown at it, it said in a statement posted late Sunday.

Following months of efforts to sway US regulators and the public, TikTok reluctantly arrived at two concessions: “We faced the real possibility of a forced sale of TikTok’s US business by CFIUS or an executive order banning on the TikTok app in the US,” ByteDance founder and CEO Zhang Yiming wrote to employees in a letter on Monday.

The TikTok saga is evolving on an hourly basis. As of writing, Microsoft has confirmed it’s in talks with US officials to pursue a TikTok purchase. Trump previously said he would not support the purchase of the Chinese-owned app by an American company.

On the China end, Zhang told his staff that the company has “initiated preliminary discussions with a tech company to help clear the way for us to continue offering the TikTok app in the U.S.” The message corroborates reassurance from the app’s US general manager Vanessa Pappas that TikTok is “not planning on going anywhere.”

Zhang is unabashed about his frustration in the letter: “We disagree with CFIUS’s conclusion because we have always been committed to user safety, platform neutrality, and transparency. However, we understand their decision in the current macro environment.”

Angry netizens
But ByteDance’s responses clearly have not won favor with some people in China. On Weibo, a popular microblogging platform in China, hundreds of anonymous users joined in under a post about Zhang’s letter, cursing him as a traitor of China, an American apologist, a coward, among many other labels.

“Zhang Yiming used to praise the US for allowing debate, unlike in China, where opinions are one-sided. Now he got a slap in the face, why doesn’t he go argue with the US?” Chastised one of the most popular comments with over 3,600 likes.

The commentator appears to be referring to some of Zhang’s Weibo posts from the early 2010s, which can be seen by some as liberal-leaning, putting the entrepreneur in the rank of “public intellectuals.” The term has in recent years been thought of as derogatory, as internet patriots see the group as ignorant and worshippers of Western values.

“The general view among Chinese social media users is that this is a tit-for-tat measure as part of the ongoing US-China trade war. They also believe that these steps are being taken due to TikTok’s success and because it has now become a threat to US platforms such as Facebook and Twitter,” said Rich Bishop, CEO of AppInChina, which helps international apps and games publish in China.

Zhang’s Weibo account is currently suspended, presumably to prevent armies of angry patriots from flooding his posts.

It’s hard to gauge how representative the online sentiment is of the Chinese public, or whether the discourse is orchestrated by government-paid commentators. Compared to the internet fury, though, Beijing appeared relatively resigned, with a Foreign Ministry spokesperson merely denying US allegations against TikTok as fabricated “out of nothing” during a regular presser. (There’s no concrete evidence publicly presented by the US government yet to support its claims that TikTok is a national security threat.)

After all, the Chinese government can’t do much to retaliate, given there are scant examples of American internet giants with a considerable business in China.

Sympathy from peers
Startups and investors in China are more sympathetic toward ByteDance. Many agree that if the Microsoft deal goes through, it could be the least bad outcome for TikTok.

“They are stuck between a rock and a hard place,” said William Bao Bean, general partner at Chinaccelerator, a cross-border accelerator backed by SOSV. “We are in a fast-changing regulatory environment. I think the consumers would probably want to continue using the service, and this is one potential way to make that happen. Obviously, I don’t think it’s what ByteDance really wants.”

AppInChina’s Bishop reminded us of Microsoft’s non-confrontational attitude towards Beijing. “I think it’s a good outcome for all sides. Microsoft of course benefits hugely from getting into social media. Bytedance gets a good payout, and Bytedance and the Chinese government are relatively friendly towards Microsoft.”

The tech community is well aware that TikTok is a rarity. Although the backlash will have a chilling effect on Chinese companies expanding to the US, and potentially other Western markets, there simply aren’t many internet companies going from China to the West in the first place.

“Most solutions that are built for China don’t solve problems that people have in the West,” observed Bao Bean.

Chinese games probably have the best shot in conquering the West, as WeChat parent Tencent, through aggressive acquisitions and numerous smash-hits, has demonstrated. Smaller developers resort to the strategy of “laying low” about their Chinese origin.

“We simply don’t take media interviews,” said CEO of a US-listed Chinese internet firm on condition of anonymity.

“It’s not about the chilling effect. The problem is there won’t be opportunities in the US, Canada, Australia, or India anymore. The chance of succeeding in Europe is also becoming smaller, and the risks are increasing a lot,” a former executive overseeing an American giant’s Chinese business lamented, asking not to be named.

“From now on, Chinese companies going global can only look to Southeast Asia, Africa, and South America.”

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As they say, emotional decision making is extremely dangerous and most often leads to poor consequences
 
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Robbery is a 400-year Anglo-Saxon tradition. They used to rob in Europe, then they robbed Indians in North America, and now they rob Chinese companies. I am not surprised at all.
 
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Robbery is a 400-year Anglo-Saxon tradition. They used to rob in Europe, then they robbed Indians in North America, and now they rob Chinese companies. I am not surprised at all.

China's is world's steal, copy and paste kings and you are talking about a robbery :rofl:
 
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In the future, when Americans see Tik Tok, they will point to Tik Tok happily and say: Look, this is the spoils we snatched from China, and this is the symbol of American glory.

In the future when chinese lookback at this smash and grab, they will realize, damn the lan dan ccp really fucked us over.

Welcome to the real world, cheers!:enjoy:
 
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In the future when chinese lookback at this smash and grab, they will realize, damn the lan dan ccp really fucked us over.

Welcome to the real world, cheers!:enjoy:
Robbery is a 400-year Anglo-Saxon tradition. They used to rob in Europe, then they robbed Indians in North America, and now they rob Chinese companies. I am not surprised at all.
 
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Robbery is a 400-year Anglo-Saxon tradition. They used to rob in Europe, then they robbed Indians in North America, and now they rob Chinese companies. I am not surprised at all.
Robbery is a 400-year Anglo-Saxon tradition. They used to rob in Europe, then they robbed Indians in North America, and now they rob Chinese companies. I am not surprised at all.

Anything new my dear ccp copy paste bot?
 
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China's is world's steal, copy and paste kings and you are talking about a robbery :rofl:
Your ancestors slaughtered tens of millions of Indians and robbed their land.
This is your tradition and your glory.
 
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ByteDance is not backing down from its ambitions to become a global technology powerhouse, even as TikTok loses its largest market India and faces insurmountable challenges in the US. But some in China are blasting the Beijing-based company as too accommodating and yielding to US demands.

ByteDance said it will “remain committed to our vision to become a globalized company” despite the flurry of challenges thrown at it, it said in a statement posted late Sunday.

Following months of efforts to sway US regulators and the public, TikTok reluctantly arrived at two concessions: “We faced the real possibility of a forced sale of TikTok’s US business by CFIUS or an executive order banning on the TikTok app in the US,” ByteDance founder and CEO Zhang Yiming wrote to employees in a letter on Monday.

The TikTok saga is evolving on an hourly basis. As of writing, Microsoft has confirmed it’s in talks with US officials to pursue a TikTok purchase. Trump previously said he would not support the purchase of the Chinese-owned app by an American company.

On the China end, Zhang told his staff that the company has “initiated preliminary discussions with a tech company to help clear the way for us to continue offering the TikTok app in the U.S.” The message corroborates reassurance from the app’s US general manager Vanessa Pappas that TikTok is “not planning on going anywhere.”

Zhang is unabashed about his frustration in the letter: “We disagree with CFIUS’s conclusion because we have always been committed to user safety, platform neutrality, and transparency. However, we understand their decision in the current macro environment.”

Angry netizens
But ByteDance’s responses clearly have not won favor with some people in China. On Weibo, a popular microblogging platform in China, hundreds of anonymous users joined in under a post about Zhang’s letter, cursing him as a traitor of China, an American apologist, a coward, among many other labels.

“Zhang Yiming used to praise the US for allowing debate, unlike in China, where opinions are one-sided. Now he got a slap in the face, why doesn’t he go argue with the US?” Chastised one of the most popular comments with over 3,600 likes.

The commentator appears to be referring to some of Zhang’s Weibo posts from the early 2010s, which can be seen by some as liberal-leaning, putting the entrepreneur in the rank of “public intellectuals.” The term has in recent years been thought of as derogatory, as internet patriots see the group as ignorant and worshippers of Western values.

“The general view among Chinese social media users is that this is a tit-for-tat measure as part of the ongoing US-China trade war. They also believe that these steps are being taken due to TikTok’s success and because it has now become a threat to US platforms such as Facebook and Twitter,” said Rich Bishop, CEO of AppInChina, which helps international apps and games publish in China.

Zhang’s Weibo account is currently suspended, presumably to prevent armies of angry patriots from flooding his posts.

It’s hard to gauge how representative the online sentiment is of the Chinese public, or whether the discourse is orchestrated by government-paid commentators. Compared to the internet fury, though, Beijing appeared relatively resigned, with a Foreign Ministry spokesperson merely denying US allegations against TikTok as fabricated “out of nothing” during a regular presser. (There’s no concrete evidence publicly presented by the US government yet to support its claims that TikTok is a national security threat.)

After all, the Chinese government can’t do much to retaliate, given there are scant examples of American internet giants with a considerable business in China.

Sympathy from peers
Startups and investors in China are more sympathetic toward ByteDance. Many agree that if the Microsoft deal goes through, it could be the least bad outcome for TikTok.

“They are stuck between a rock and a hard place,” said William Bao Bean, general partner at Chinaccelerator, a cross-border accelerator backed by SOSV. “We are in a fast-changing regulatory environment. I think the consumers would probably want to continue using the service, and this is one potential way to make that happen. Obviously, I don’t think it’s what ByteDance really wants.”

AppInChina’s Bishop reminded us of Microsoft’s non-confrontational attitude towards Beijing. “I think it’s a good outcome for all sides. Microsoft of course benefits hugely from getting into social media. Bytedance gets a good payout, and Bytedance and the Chinese government are relatively friendly towards Microsoft.”

The tech community is well aware that TikTok is a rarity. Although the backlash will have a chilling effect on Chinese companies expanding to the US, and potentially other Western markets, there simply aren’t many internet companies going from China to the West in the first place.

“Most solutions that are built for China don’t solve problems that people have in the West,” observed Bao Bean.

Chinese games probably have the best shot in conquering the West, as WeChat parent Tencent, through aggressive acquisitions and numerous smash-hits, has demonstrated. Smaller developers resort to the strategy of “laying low” about their Chinese origin.

“We simply don’t take media interviews,” said CEO of a US-listed Chinese internet firm on condition of anonymity.

“It’s not about the chilling effect. The problem is there won’t be opportunities in the US, Canada, Australia, or India anymore. The chance of succeeding in Europe is also becoming smaller, and the risks are increasing a lot,” a former executive overseeing an American giant’s Chinese business lamented, asking not to be named.

“From now on, Chinese companies going global can only look to Southeast Asia, Africa, and South America.”

Source link

https://www.howzitnews.co.za/chines...-traitor-as-tiktok-seeks-us-buyer-techcrunch/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAA
US moves only will hurt foreign investment. Only idiots will see this as some kind of victory for US.
 
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Anything new my dear ccp copy paste bot?
I just remind you of history, don’t be angry, because you can’t change history anyway.
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bytedance is group of business men, they will bring $25B to $50 Billion dollar to china by selling this. they have no other choice.

bytedance will bring another app to market sooner or later
 
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China's is world's steal, copy and paste kings and you are talking about a robbery :rofl:
Look at the sourgraped comment from idiots who cant invent anything and still discuss about building enough toilets for it's people. India is the failure of all. :enjoy:

Tell me what world class apps indian has produced? Zero. Chinese has tiktok and WeChat. :enjoy:
 
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History wil say..
ZTE
Huawei
Bytedance.

Usa singlehandedly destroyed these chinese copycat crown jewels

Whats next?
 
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bytedance should call trump's bluff. Banning tiktok means the US can no longer brand itself as free market or free society
 
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