Chinese Embassy in Ukraine issues security alert to the Chinese citizens, suggesting showing Chinese flag on their cars

[CAPRICORN-88]

President Putin repeatedly request for security quarantee from the US and EU as basis for peace.

IMO this is reasonable as EU and the US has indeed signed the agreement guaranteeing that NATO will not expand and accepted the former states within the Soviet Union.

The document was just found by investigative journalists filed in the British Archive.

But instead the US has ante up the game by invoking the Ukrainian card and at their behest ordered the radical Ukrainian military to fire its artillery into the breakaway Eastern regions.

President Putin has now invoked its stake by removing the Ukrainian card once and for all from the US and its allies.

The same will apply to Taiwan if the US pushes China any further.

President Xi will removed the Taiwan's card once and for all from the US.

These brinkmanship by the US won't work against either Russia or China.

They will perform a decisive cut ending the enduring pain.

As Putin told the Western journalists:
Do you want a nuclear war?

 

[MH.Yang]

The US deputy Secretary of State Victoria Urland has overtly admitted that the US has been involved in Ukraine since 1991 and has spend well over USD 5 billions. She was caught red handed in a tape that revealed the US role in the coup in 2014.

In 2014 Ukrainians extremists orchestrated the overthrow of a democratically elected Ukrainian President and started what the West like to describe today as genocides against Russian speaking Ukrainian in the Eastern part.

These lead to civil war and what is called the breakaway Republic of Dombass, Donetsk and Lugansk.

Initially all they were asking for is just autonomy from the extremist government in Kiev.

If so, Russia should organize and arm the army in eastern Ukraine and send hundreds of thousands of civilian volunteer troops to attack western Ukraine. Then this will be a civil war under the national framework of Ukraine.

Russia can support the civil war in eastern Ukraine, but it should not support the independence of eastern Ukraine. If a region can vote for independence or even join another country without the consent of the central govt, the world order will become chaotic.
Let me ask you a question: if Taiwan also votes, what will we do?

If the Russian govt overthrows the Nazi govt of Ukraine by supporting the Ukrainian civil war, I will support Putin 100%. But if they incite independence, then I will suspect that its purpose is to annex the territory of Ukraine.
Now China's national strategy is B&R, and Russia's behavior seriously interferes with the security of B&R's investment environment in Eastern Europe, so I have hated that.
But judging from the geopolitical situation, we can't allow Russia's economy to collapse under any circumstances. Therefore, we still need to continue to support Russia's economic development, and oppose western economic sanctions against Russia.


BTW: I remember that USA also annexed Texas after supporting Texas's independence from Mexico. USA also used the name of peacekeeping force when it entered Kosovo to bomb the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

President Putin repeatedly request for security quarantee from the US and EU as basis for peace.

IMO this is reasonable as EU and the US has indeed signed the agreement guaranteeing that NATO will not expand and accepted the former states within the Soviet Union.

The document was just found by investigative journalists filed in the British Archive.

But instead the US has ante up the game by invoking the Ukrainian card and at their behest ordered the radical Ukrainian military to fire its artillery into the breakaway Eastern regions.

President Putin has now invoked its stake by removing the Ukrainian card once and for all from the US and its allies.

The same will apply to Taiwan if the US pushes China any further.

President Xi will removed the Taiwan's card once and for all from the US.

These brinkmanship by the US won't work against either Russia or China.

They will perform a decisive cut ending the enduring pain.

As Putin told the Western journalists:
Do you want a nuclear war?

Dissimilarity.

Taiwan is China's territory, which is the civil war of the Chinese people. Eastern Ukraine is the territory of Ukraine, and Russia is an invasion.

We do not need to rely on the strength of Russia to recover Taiwan, but we need to ensure that there will be no large-scale chaos in Taiwan after recovery and will not become our burden.

 

[Beast]

If so, Russia should organize and arm the army in eastern Ukraine and send hundreds of thousands of civilian volunteer troops to attack western Ukraine. Then this will be a civil war under the national framework of Ukraine.

Russia can support the civil war in eastern Ukraine, but it should not support the independence of eastern Ukraine. If a region can vote for independence or even join another country without the consent of the central govt, the world order will become chaotic.
Let me ask you a question: if Taiwan also votes, what will we do?

If the Russian govt overthrows the Nazi govt of Ukraine by supporting the Ukrainian civil war, I will support Putin 100%. But if they incite independence, then I will suspect that its purpose is to annex the territory of Ukraine.
Now China's national strategy is B&R, and Russia's behavior seriously interferes with the security of B&R's investment environment in Eastern Europe, so I have hated that.
But judging from the geopolitical situation, we can't allow Russia's economy to collapse under any circumstances. Therefore, we still need to continue to support Russia's economic development, and oppose western economic sanctions against Russia.


BTW: I remember that USA also annexed Texas after supporting Texas's independence from Mexico. USA also used the name of peacekeeping force when it entered Kosovo to bomb the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

World order is go by national strength. If Taiwan think they got such power and got for referendum. Go ahead and try.

China also recognize the formation of Leste Timor which break away from Indonesia. No contradiction for Putin action.

 

[Falconless]

What’s the mood like in China over this?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

If so, Russia should organize and arm the army in eastern Ukraine and send hundreds of thousands of civilian volunteer troops to attack western Ukraine. Then this will be a civil war under the national framework of Ukraine.

Russia can support the civil war in eastern Ukraine, but it should not support the independence of eastern Ukraine. If a region can vote for independence or even join another country without the consent of the central govt, the world order will become chaotic.
Let me ask you a question: if Taiwan also votes, what will we do?

If the Russian govt overthrows the Nazi govt of Ukraine by supporting the Ukrainian civil war, I will support Putin 100%. But if they incite independence, then I will suspect that its purpose is to annex the territory of Ukraine.
Now China's national strategy is B&R, and Russia's behavior seriously interferes with the security of B&R's investment environment in Eastern Europe, so I have hated that.
But judging from the geopolitical situation, we can't allow Russia's economy to collapse under any circumstances. Therefore, we still need to continue to support Russia's economic development, and oppose western economic sanctions against Russia.


BTW: I remember that USA also annexed Texas after supporting Texas's independence from Mexico. USA also used the name of peacekeeping force when it entered Kosovo to bomb the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.



Dissimilarity.

Taiwan is China's territory, which is the civil war of the Chinese people. Eastern Ukraine is the territory of Ukraine, and Russia is an invasion.

We do not need to rely on the strength of Russia to recover Taiwan, but we need to ensure that there will be no large-scale chaos in Taiwan after recovery and will not become our burden.

If Taiwan wants to, they can go ahead and vote but 后果自负.

 

[sha ah]

Zelensky might do that, thanks for the tip

Chinese Embassy in Ukraine issues security alert to the Chinese citizens, suggesting showing Chinese flag on their cars

On February 24, the Chinese Embassy in Ukraine issued a notice, "please pay high attention to the safety of Chinese citizens in Ukraine". Since February 24, the situation in Ukraine has deteriorated sharply, explosions have occurred in some cities, and military operations have been carried out. The Chinese Embassy in Ukraine reminded Chinese citizens and Chinese enterprises in Ukraine to take ensuring personal safety as the first priority and contact local powerful departments at the first time.

 

[MH.Yang]

World order is go by national strength. If Taiwan think they got such power and got for referendum. Go ahead and try.

China also recognize the formation of Leste Timor which break away from Indonesia. No contradiction for Putin action.

Indonesia annexed East Timor in 1974, and the United Nations has not recognized Indonesia's sovereignty over East Timor.

In 1975, the United Nations warned the Indonesian government and asked it to withdraw its troops. China is a P5 country of the United Nations. Of course, China's position is the same as that of the United Nations. Otherwise, the warning proposal will not be adopted by the Security Council.

Most importantly, the independence vote in East Timor in 1999 was approved by the central govt of Indonesia. Is the independence vote in eastern Ukraine approved by the central govt of Ukraine?
Similarly, if Taiwan wants to vote, it must also be approved by the central govt of China.

 

[MH.Yang]

If Taiwan wants to, they can go ahead and vote but 后果自负.

We should not solve all problems through strength like a child.

We should make our own rules of the game and let other countries play the game according to our rules of the game.

You need to understand that we are not just a country, we are a civilization disguised as a country, we are the rules, we are the order. Therefore, we must solve the Taiwan issue without breaking the rules of the game we have formulated.

 

[Beast]

Indonesia annexed East Timor in 1974, and the United Nations has not recognized Indonesia's sovereignty over East Timor.

In 1975, the United Nations warned the Indonesian government and asked it to withdraw its troops. China is a P5 country of the United Nations. Of course, China's position is the same as that of the United Nations. Otherwise, the warning proposal will not be adopted by the Security Council.

Most importantly, the independence vote in East Timor in 1999 was approved by the central govt of Indonesia. Is the independence vote in eastern Ukraine approved by the central govt of Ukraine?
Similarly, if Taiwan wants to vote, it must also be approved by the central govt of China.

You really think Indonesia approved Leste Timor referendum volunteerly? They are coerced by the western power. Stop using these BS so called UN law and order. They are build on power of which country national strength lies.

Putin action shall be fully supported by China, although we did not outright approved it. Becos Putin has break the myth of western so called support and promise which is build on nothing but delusion.

Soon more countries are aware of US and NATO empty promise.

 

[REhorror]

Ukraine seems to be done.
Wonder if this would be considered war-mongering in this forum, but I think this is actually the right time to take Taiwan.
A one-two punch to destroy the American liberal order in both East and West.

What would Sun Tzu think? What would Cao Cao think?

 

[MH.Yang]

You really think Indonesia approved Leste Timor referendum volunteerly? They are coerced by the western power. Stop using these BS so called UN law and order. They are build on power of which country national strength lies.

Indonesia was certainly forced.

Why should those countries force the Indonesian govt to agree to vote instead of using their strength to forcibly solve the problem?

 

[Beast]

Ukraine seems to be done.
Wonder if this would be considered war-mongering in this forum, but I think this is actually the right time to take Taiwan.
A one-two punch to destroy the American liberal order in both East and West.

What would Sun Tzu think? What would Cao Cao think?

No, as long as no independence from Taiwan. We shall leave it as shall.

Indonesia was certainly forced.

Why should those countries force the Indonesian govt to agree to vote instead of using their strength to forcibly solve the problem?

Why would those western countries risk their people life for Indonesia disintergration? If they can force it using economy threat or others, why not?

 

[REhorror]

No, as long as no independence from Taiwan. We shall leave it as shouldn't.

Long or short, China still eat the cake.
If it's me, I'd eat the cake early, haha.

 

[MH.Yang]

Ukraine seems to be done.
Wonder if this would be considered war-mongering in this forum, but I think this is actually the right time to take Taiwan.
A one-two punch to destroy the American liberal order in both East and West.

What would Sun Tzu think? What would Cao Cao think?

China will not use this time to resolve the Taiwan issue.
If China is willing to accept a destroyed Taiwan, China could have built 2000 nuclear bombs and then recovered Taiwan.
China hopes to recover a complete Taiwan.

 

[Beast]

Long or short, China still eat the cake.
If it's me, I'd eat the cake early, haha.

Taiwan is not cake, more like wine. The longer u wait, it tastes better.