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By Patrick Scally in News on September 21, 2018

If patience is a virtue, then the architects of China's southwestern development strategy are saints. Last week, a high-ranking diplomat floated the notion of building a high-speed railway connecting Kunming with the Indian city of Kolkata. The idea is the latest in a 20-year series of similar schemes designed to bring closer the economies of the world's two most populous countries.
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The issue of creating the nearly 1,800-kilometer bullet line between the cities was discussed by China's consul general in Kolkata, Ma Zhanwu. He told reporters that if built, "It would only take a few hours to reach Kolkata from Kunming". Cost, environmental impact and the necessity of such a project were left undiscussed by the consul general.

However, Ma's comments represent more than idle daydreaming. A "multi-modal transport and trade corridor" connecting the two cities was first proposed back in the 1990s by Bengali economist Rehman Sobhan. Since then, the idea has taken on many guises, the most recent being the Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar Forum for Regional Cooperation — otherwise know as BCIM.
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The BCIM corridor is a massive endeavor encompassing infrastructure projects, logistics and energy supply chains and tariff-free trade zones. The ultimate goal is greater multilateral regional economic integration. Although originally put forward more than two decades ago, the BCIM has achieved new momentum when it was more recently enveloped by Chinese President Xi Jinping's trillion dollar Belt and Road Initiative.

The idea of adding a bullet train line into the mix is perhaps a subtle way for China to rekindle interest in an idea that has historically found difficulty gaining traction. While BCIM proponents argue the corridor would stimulate trade among the four involved countries, the organizational details have proven sticky.

Sino-Indian relations are often frosty at the best of times, and until now, India has refused to allow Belt and Road projects inside its borders. Attitudes may slowly be changing on that front, but complicated logistical challenges exist elsewhere. One major issue is that the designed course of the BCIM passes through portions of eastern Myanmar that have experienced various levels of civil war for decades. Not only is the region beset by conflict, but it is also largely devoid of high-quality roads, reliable power generating facilities and much heavy or light industry.

This says nothing about the Myanmar government's willingness to cooperate with Chinese aspirations. Over the past several years, Naypyidaw has exhibited both willingness and reluctance when it comes to loans and investment offers proffered by Beijing. Most recently, the Burmese appetite for debt-laden infrastructure offers has reportedly diminished significantly.

All of this aside, China continues to build as if the BCIM will one day come to fruition. Work on a high-speed railway connecting Kunming to the border city of Ruili — dubbed the 'railroad from hell' — began a decade ago and is expected to be finished sometime after 2022. Ruili would provide the international gateway for BCIM traffic, rail and otherwise, flowing west toward major cities in Myanmar, Bangladesh and India.

But those ambitions represent only one part of a larger Chinese idea that imagines Kunming as a railway hub connecting South Asian markets to those across Southeast Asia. Ma Zhanwu's comments about building a high-speed line to India may seem premature viewed in the light of current circumstances, but they may also symbolize China's demonstrated comfort with playing a very long game when it comes to its regional ambitions.
https://www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/4160/chinese_diplomat_proposes_bullet_train_to_india
 
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It will be a pipe dream. Myanmar hate Bangladesh. How would they allow HSR connected each other and then to india from China?
 
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By Patrick Scally in News on September 21, 2018

If patience is a virtue, then the architects of China's southwestern development strategy are saints. Last week, a high-ranking diplomat floated the notion of building a high-speed railway connecting Kunming with the Indian city of Kolkata. The idea is the latest in a 20-year series of similar schemes designed to bring closer the economies of the world's two most populous countries.
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The issue of creating the nearly 1,800-kilometer bullet line between the cities was discussed by China's consul general in Kolkata, Ma Zhanwu. He told reporters that if built, "It would only take a few hours to reach Kolkata from Kunming". Cost, environmental impact and the necessity of such a project were left undiscussed by the consul general.

However, Ma's comments represent more than idle daydreaming. A "multi-modal transport and trade corridor" connecting the two cities was first proposed back in the 1990s by Bengali economist Rehman Sobhan. Since then, the idea has taken on many guises, the most recent being the Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar Forum for Regional Cooperation — otherwise know as BCIM.
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The BCIM corridor is a massive endeavor encompassing infrastructure projects, logistics and energy supply chains and tariff-free trade zones. The ultimate goal is greater multilateral regional economic integration. Although originally put forward more than two decades ago, the BCIM has achieved new momentum when it was more recently enveloped by Chinese President Xi Jinping's trillion dollar Belt and Road Initiative.

The idea of adding a bullet train line into the mix is perhaps a subtle way for China to rekindle interest in an idea that has historically found difficulty gaining traction. While BCIM proponents argue the corridor would stimulate trade among the four involved countries, the organizational details have proven sticky.

Sino-Indian relations are often frosty at the best of times, and until now, India has refused to allow Belt and Road projects inside its borders. Attitudes may slowly be changing on that front, but complicated logistical challenges exist elsewhere. One major issue is that the designed course of the BCIM passes through portions of eastern Myanmar that have experienced various levels of civil war for decades. Not only is the region beset by conflict, but it is also largely devoid of high-quality roads, reliable power generating facilities and much heavy or light industry.

This says nothing about the Myanmar government's willingness to cooperate with Chinese aspirations. Over the past several years, Naypyidaw has exhibited both willingness and reluctance when it comes to loans and investment offers proffered by Beijing. Most recently, the Burmese appetite for debt-laden infrastructure offers has reportedly diminished significantly.

All of this aside, China continues to build as if the BCIM will one day come to fruition. Work on a high-speed railway connecting Kunming to the border city of Ruili — dubbed the 'railroad from hell' — began a decade ago and is expected to be finished sometime after 2022. Ruili would provide the international gateway for BCIM traffic, rail and otherwise, flowing west toward major cities in Myanmar, Bangladesh and India.

But those ambitions represent only one part of a larger Chinese idea that imagines Kunming as a railway hub connecting South Asian markets to those across Southeast Asia. Ma Zhanwu's comments about building a high-speed line to India may seem premature viewed in the light of current circumstances, but they may also symbolize China's demonstrated comfort with playing a very long game when it comes to its regional ambitions.
https://www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/4160/chinese_diplomat_proposes_bullet_train_to_india

It is a dream project.
 
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Sometimes the Chinese just say for the sake of saying... It don't really mean anything unless it's from some really top level personnel.
Chinese are working at many metro rail projects in india. One day we hope we get bullet trains with help of china.
 
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It is a dream project.
Totally. I guess if the rail between kyaukpyu and Kunming can be built first, half the work has been done. The rest of the link will be less expensive and far easier to visualize the economical benefits, which will be gigantic.

The only thing I am not too sure is whether we can go high speed rail in one go. It will be a dream project if it does materialize.
 
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This proves that China is putting its interests first...allies are temporary. It is not totally reliant on Pakistan, like we are on China. This was shown when China did not support us in the FATF vote.

Its not difficult to envision a future where India & China become closer through various collaborations. This would suit both because an enemy would become a friend and thereby reduce defence spending.

Many would say that India is friendly with the US, so there is no way it will gravitate towards China...but India is also close to Russia which is another American foe.

As they say in the business world - Never say Never!

This is why Pakistan needs to put its house in order QuickTime
 
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It will be a pipe dream. Myanmar hate Bangladesh. How would they allow HSR connected each other and then to india from China?
If the rail route is made like what was shown in article......the link starting from kolkata enters bangladesh will again reenter india at silchar and then into myanmar (then into china), i think its possible
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Is Sino-Indian rapprochement a possibility? I would hope so.
 
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China wants to build roads and railways connecting the world in every continent.
 
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Sometimes the Chinese just say for the sake of saying... It don't really mean anything unless it's from some really top level personnel.
Sometimes? Your propaganda machine is on 24/7. One would think you are truly the second most powerful and prosperous country in the world, overtaking the US ;)
 
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But who is the investor??
Who is the beneficiary??
 
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Sometimes? Your propaganda machine is on 24/7. One would think you are truly the second most powerful and prosperous country in the world, overtaking the US ;)
What's there in US left still waiting China to overtake?
 
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What's there in US left still waiting China to overtake?
:lol: Seriously?

Economically, militarily, brand, alliances and I can go on and on. For Pete's sake, you are still suspectable to getting U.S. sanctions and it hurting your economy. On the other hand, the majority of the countries won't pay any heed to you should you ask them to adhere to any sanctions you may impose on us. Right now your per capita GDP is less than 50% below the world's average.
 
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