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Chinese consortium to launch new airline in Pakistan

China may lead Pakistan to path of Economic prosperity just like America led South Korea to the road of development. Pakistanis should fully utilize this God sent Chinese help and avoid making the mistakes like they committed in past when they had every chance to become a developed nation with the help of their Uncle Sam.:enjoy:
Those morons in P. Govt. have no vision or interest in seeing their country developing. If it was not for the army, this country would have been sold for pennies a very long time ago for their personal family gains.

eh... How about we hand over the whole country to china .-.
May be a good idea. First thing China will do is, arrest all the corrupt politicians immediately and most likely give all of them capitol punishments to rid the country of corruption at the highest level.
 
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May be a good idea. First thing China will do is, arrest all the corrupt politicians immediately and most likely give all of them capitol punishments to rid the country of corruption at the highest level.
Can you guess what score Pakistan, China and India got on "Corruption Perception Index" out of 100 in 2016, when compared to the rest of the world.

All of them got below 40

30, 37 and 38 to be exact

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/corruption-indexhttp://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/corruption-index
 
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Why not appoint a Chinese individual who has aviation managerial experience as the PIA Czar with full powers?

Look at Emirates the "Chairman" is the highest position but de facto the airlines is run by Tim, Thierry, Gary, and Adel Ahmad.

http://www.theemiratesgroup.com/english/our-company/leadership/leadership.aspx

PIA can compete, just cut off it off from the hands of the government and allow for Equal Employment, regardless of nationality, in Executive levels.


Agreed. Perhaps they should look at this option very carefully.

There's nothing like "being too patriotic".

Either you're patriotic OR you're not. Either you love your family and your country OR you're a selfish $cum.

There's no middle ground.

Agreed. And you would say or do anything to protect them. Even if it gets you into trouble.
 
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Chinese investments are more than welcome, but putting all our eggs in one basket is not a wise thing to do , we can't just allow one country to take hold of everything rather we need competition from other countries, that will benefit the laymen not the investors.
 
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Great, as far as Pakistan's economy is moving forward and a great deal of job opportunities are created. Hopefully Indo-Pak issues will be settled sometime as we can also be good business partners in future.

But as far as Chinese investment is concerned, I would like to quote a small advise from none other than the legend Warren Buffett said about investment.

Do not put all your eggs in one basket. :)
 
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Great, as far as Pakistan's economy is moving forward and a great deal of job opportunities are created. Hopefully Indo-Pak issues will be settled sometime as we can also be good business partners in future.

But as far as Chinese investment is concerned, I would like to quote a small advise from none other than the legend Warren Buffett said about investment.

Do not put all your eggs in one basket. :)

We are not. That's why Pakistan has an excellent and fast progressing relationship with Turkey. With many joint economic and defence programs and ventures in the works. One day our relationship with Turkey will be at the same level as it is with China. We are trying to normalize relations with Russia. And enjoy cordial relations with many EU countries.

There's more chances of the Somalians building a spaceship that can travel the galaxy at the speed of light than there is of Pakistan and India ever doing proper business with eachother. Never ever going to happen.
 
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We are not. That's why Pakistan has an excellent and fast progressing relationship with Turkey. With many joint economic and defence programs and ventures in the works. One day our relationship with Turkey will be at the same level as it is with China. We are trying to normalize relations with Russia. And enjoy cordial relations with many EU countries.

There's more chances of the Somalians building a spaceship that can travel the galaxy at the speed of light than there is of Pakistan and India ever doing proper business with each other. Never ever going to happen.
Loved your example of Somalians' spaceship.........:D
 
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Chinese investments are more than welcome, but putting all our eggs in one basket is not a wise thing to do , we can't just allow one country to take hold of everything rather we need competition from other countries, that will benefit the laymen not the investors.
and i think thats what China is kind of doing. Look at Pakistan- a sizeable, big market in Asia, and In my strong opinion Pakistan looks like an easy "conquer' for CHina, because under the guise of "friendship and alliance", China seems to be taking over econmical and important parts of Pakistan as a country. but lets see. Afterall theres no formal military alliance that China is a member of(except SCO?).So talk is really cheap. I feel China is using the developing countries as a way to guarantee growth for Chinese people and businesses in decades to come.
 
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Pakistan - China friendship has always benefited both parties. This is good initiation for people of Pakistan considering PIA. Pakistan should also try get this close with Turkey and form a friendlier relationship with Russia. With Iran wanting to take part in CPEC, things are slowly changing for the better.
 
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There is a right way of reforming PIA and then there is the wrong (corrupt) way ... and we all know which PMLN opted for hence it failed. Selling assets for little (to the ruling elite) is nothing but criminal. Getting rid of the excess baggage (useless staff) is what's required.

Potential of new airlines is a welcome note. Domestic rates need to be lower and can be lower. If one can fly return from London to New York for less than $400 (on airlines like EasyJet etc) then why can't we fly from Islamabad to Karachi return in PKR15,000 or even less.

Maybe the complete collapse of PIA is required in order to rebuild it, if structural reform is not politically possible.
 
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A very good opportunity for Pak, Considering the reputation and organised business structure that the Chinese bring, I'm sure there will be huge potential opportunities .... I hope Pak utilizes the fullest and update/re think the process .....

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Chinese investments are more than welcome, but putting all our eggs in one basket is not a wise thing to do , we can't just allow one country to take hold of everything rather we need competition from other countries, that will benefit the laymen not the investors.
this the way China operates American's believe in invasion and Chinese believe I investment objective is same strengthen national interest
 
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At least our citizens can enjoy a quality world class airline service. It's now up to our airlines to rise to the challenge and shape up. Everything the Chinese do will ultimately provide our citizens with quality that only the developed nations enjoy. If our own companies and entities cannot compete at this level then they deserve to be eradicated. Only the fittest survive.

Really like your remark of only the fittest survive. Competition is the force (probably the strongest one) that drives nations, organizations and individuals continue striving and improving themselves. There is no doubt that bringing in competition in the industry that used to be dominated by state business is a painful process which China has gone through in the 90s. You can probably draw some valuable experience from that when Pakistan is on the same path.

Equally don't underestimate your capability to learn, adopt and strive including state business. When China joined WTO in 2001 there was much pessimism that China' state and private business would not stand a chance to compete with the multinational giants. which was true to certain extent but they learned and adopted and eventually bounced back. both China and Pakistan are old civilizations and we have a lot great attributes and inner strength.
 
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Really like your remark of only the fittest survive. Competition is the force (probably the strongest one) that drives nations, organizations and individuals continue striving and improving themselves. There is no doubt that bringing in competition in the industry that used to be dominated by state business is a painful process which China has gone through in the 90s. You can probably draw some valuable experience from that when Pakistan is on the same path.

Equally don't underestimate your capability to learn, adopt and strive including state business. When China joined WTO in 2001 there was much pessimism that China' state and private business would not stand a chance to compete with the multinational giants. which was true to certain extent but they learned and adopted and eventually bounced back. both China and Pakistan are old civilizations and we have a lot great attributes and inner strength.


Problem with Pakistani companies is that they are slow, like to monopolise and love being in a comfort zone. They strive for nothing. That is why I am glad the Chinese are coming in full force to kick these organisations into shape and annihilate those that are not worthy. If we were doing that since 1947 we would have been like South Korea by now.
 
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