Genesis
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This my rant, I'm kinda pissed today at work and other things, lol so instead I'm ranting here.
Doesn't the J-20 look exactly like the other three? I think so.
I been hearing this for soooooo long, now the west claims this for a variety of reasons. Let's look at them.
First Chinese culture, it is inward looking and don't like to innovate.
First China started like any other nation barely a couple of provinces, contrary to popular belief the first Chinese dynasty isn't Qin, it maybe Shang, or Xia, depending on what you believe.
At the beginning China was bad a small gathering of tribes, but today it is one of the biggest countries in the world. That didn't happen because we don't go out of our comfort zone.
China at its height have tribute from countless nations, cities states, and other, all the way from south Africa to the middle east and Japan to the east. So the claim China doesn't go out is again not true.
The fact of the matter is China has too much resources per-industrial revolution that anything baring silver and Gold the Spanish and Japanese brought were useless and not sought after.
Today our influence is seen in Africa, Americas, Europe and Asia, everywhere and every mall has Chinese made or something Chinese. We are investing and exporting, importing from every corner of the globe, not one place are we not there, if it exists we are there to make that money.
As to don't like to innovate, well, aside from the industrial revolution, what exactly did the Europeans had that we didn't? But I can name plenty they didn't have that we did. I can name too many reasons why the revolution didn't happen in China, but the point is innovation has been in our culture.
Just look at our government, name one country that has advanced so far in such a short time, most of the policies made in China had never been in place anywhere else, that's innovation you can see.
Second Communism, lack of freedom.
Really? Russian technology are still awesome, was Stalin the great freedom fighter? Hitler's army was one of the world's most advanced, of course except for Russians, which as I mentioned before also not free. Japanese under WW2 was not a free nation, but their navy was world class and had two of the largest battle ships ever created as well as submarine carriers, and a lot of innovations. First carrier air strike and such.
What they had that we lacked was a base for innovation, Japan had already been through the Meiji and had a strong industrial base, Stalin relentlessly industrialized Russia, while Germany under Bismark was advancing like they were being chased. All of them had a platform for their people to innovate, today's China is far less repressive than those, in fact if you are a regular person living in China, you won't even notice the "lack" of freedom. Because I don't know what you think China does to people, but Chinese people are pretty happy where pressure isn't too great like Shanghai and Beijing(Same is true in NY, LA, London, etc).
You can trust me when I say the thought police was not there when credible international organizations were doing their surveys, also cameramen are not arrested on the streets, just look at youtube.
But that's not the point, the point is, instead of freedom, what's actually needed is a developed work environment where our new engineers are working on the same level as Americans. How can we make better TVS like the Japanese when back then, nobody can afford a TV, how can we innovate cars like the Americans when back then people didn't even know the feeling of riding in one, how can we innovate in high speed rails when back then our people never knew it even existed.
But today we have all of that, and look at our smart phone market, pharm industry, IT, cars, ship building, weapons manufacturing(J-20 doesn't look like F-22 or F-35, if it looks the same to you, you need your eyes checked or take off the colored lenses), and all kinds of goods that are entering the international market with each passing year.
Most that come to China goes back thinking how different it is here, but of course, that difference came from being the exact same as everyone else. 9.3 Trillion dollar economy based on copying, why don't America make another one of us, since they don't like us that much. It's just copying.
I must be forgetting something, please, bring it to this discussion.
Doesn't the J-20 look exactly like the other three? I think so.
I been hearing this for soooooo long, now the west claims this for a variety of reasons. Let's look at them.
First Chinese culture, it is inward looking and don't like to innovate.
First China started like any other nation barely a couple of provinces, contrary to popular belief the first Chinese dynasty isn't Qin, it maybe Shang, or Xia, depending on what you believe.
At the beginning China was bad a small gathering of tribes, but today it is one of the biggest countries in the world. That didn't happen because we don't go out of our comfort zone.
China at its height have tribute from countless nations, cities states, and other, all the way from south Africa to the middle east and Japan to the east. So the claim China doesn't go out is again not true.
The fact of the matter is China has too much resources per-industrial revolution that anything baring silver and Gold the Spanish and Japanese brought were useless and not sought after.
Today our influence is seen in Africa, Americas, Europe and Asia, everywhere and every mall has Chinese made or something Chinese. We are investing and exporting, importing from every corner of the globe, not one place are we not there, if it exists we are there to make that money.
As to don't like to innovate, well, aside from the industrial revolution, what exactly did the Europeans had that we didn't? But I can name plenty they didn't have that we did. I can name too many reasons why the revolution didn't happen in China, but the point is innovation has been in our culture.
Just look at our government, name one country that has advanced so far in such a short time, most of the policies made in China had never been in place anywhere else, that's innovation you can see.
Second Communism, lack of freedom.
Really? Russian technology are still awesome, was Stalin the great freedom fighter? Hitler's army was one of the world's most advanced, of course except for Russians, which as I mentioned before also not free. Japanese under WW2 was not a free nation, but their navy was world class and had two of the largest battle ships ever created as well as submarine carriers, and a lot of innovations. First carrier air strike and such.
What they had that we lacked was a base for innovation, Japan had already been through the Meiji and had a strong industrial base, Stalin relentlessly industrialized Russia, while Germany under Bismark was advancing like they were being chased. All of them had a platform for their people to innovate, today's China is far less repressive than those, in fact if you are a regular person living in China, you won't even notice the "lack" of freedom. Because I don't know what you think China does to people, but Chinese people are pretty happy where pressure isn't too great like Shanghai and Beijing(Same is true in NY, LA, London, etc).
You can trust me when I say the thought police was not there when credible international organizations were doing their surveys, also cameramen are not arrested on the streets, just look at youtube.
But that's not the point, the point is, instead of freedom, what's actually needed is a developed work environment where our new engineers are working on the same level as Americans. How can we make better TVS like the Japanese when back then, nobody can afford a TV, how can we innovate cars like the Americans when back then people didn't even know the feeling of riding in one, how can we innovate in high speed rails when back then our people never knew it even existed.
But today we have all of that, and look at our smart phone market, pharm industry, IT, cars, ship building, weapons manufacturing(J-20 doesn't look like F-22 or F-35, if it looks the same to you, you need your eyes checked or take off the colored lenses), and all kinds of goods that are entering the international market with each passing year.
Most that come to China goes back thinking how different it is here, but of course, that difference came from being the exact same as everyone else. 9.3 Trillion dollar economy based on copying, why don't America make another one of us, since they don't like us that much. It's just copying.
I must be forgetting something, please, bring it to this discussion.
