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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/chinas-yuan-sinks-to-10-year-low-against-dollar/?amp=1


BEIJING (AP) — China’s yuan sank to a 10-year low against the dollar on Monday, coming close to breaking the politically sensitive level of seven to the U.S. currency.

The yuan declined to 6.9644 per dollar at midday, passing its most recent low in 2016 before recovering slightly. It was the lowest level since May 2008.

The currency’s weakness is one of a series of elements fueling Washington’s trade complaints against Beijing. The U.S. Treasury Department declined this month to label China a currency manipulator but said it was closely watching Beijing.


Chinese authorities have promised to avoid “competitive devaluation” to boost exports amid a tariff war with U.S. President Donald Trump over Beijing’s technology policy. But they are trying to make the state-controlled exchange rate more responsive to market forces, which are pushing the yuan lower.

The level of seven yuan to the dollar has no economic significance, but could revive U.S. attention to the exchange rate.

Chinese authorities are likely to “stand their ground” and prevent a “capitulation beyond the 7 level,” Mizuho Bank said in a report Monday.

The yuan, also known as the renminbi, or “people’s money,” has declined by almost 10 percent against the dollar since April as China’s economy cooled and U.S. and Chinese interest rates went in opposite directions.


That helps exporters cope with tariffs of up to 25 percent imposed by Trump on billions of dollars of Chinese goods. But it raises the risk of inflaming American complaints about Beijing’s trade tactics.

“The last thing they will do is to escalate the tension by starting a currency war amid a trade war,” Macquarie Group said in a report last week.

A Treasury report on Oct. 17 said China failed to meet criteria to be labeled a currency manipulator, a status that can trigger sanctions. But it said Beijing was, along with Japan and Germany, on a list of governments whose currency polices would be closely monitored.

A weaker yuan also might encourage an outflow of capital from the world’s second-largest economy. That would raise borrowing costs at a time when its leaders are trying to shore up cooling growth.

The People’s Bank of China has been trying to make its exchange rate mechanism more efficient by increasing the role of market forces.
 
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Taking into account China's currency depreciation, China's GDP output relative to the US economy will be effectively wiped out for the year. Meanwhile the US economy will add nearly $1 trillion to its GDP, coming in just shy of $21 trillion.
 
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Taking into account China's currency depreciation, China's GDP output relative to the US economy will be effectively wiped out for the year. Meanwhile the US economy will add nearly $1 trillion to its GDP, coming in just shy of $21 trillion.

10’year low...the Chinese yuan is just proving it is a big joke.
Wait until it hits 7 to 1...
 
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Wait, I thought China was "cheating" by keeping the value of the Yuan low?

Now it's supposed to be a good thing for America? :lol: Trump's tariffs have been completely wiped out by this devaluation, and the American trade deficit is reaching yet another record high.

Trump 2020. :enjoy:
 
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The U.S was unhappy with the trade deficit, accusing Yuan was "kept" low so those Made in China products were cheaper, so they want Yuan to appreciate,```` and this Trump guy came into the play, after few maneuvers the Yuan started to depreciate, and the trade deficit to China keeps going as usual if not pacing up`````so where is the "vitory" these funny and ignorant American yelling about?

too young to naive, I'd say`````:lol:

in the 80s they did the same thing to Japan, after the Plaza treaty, Japanese's Yen "enjoyed" a decade long appreciation against Dollar````and we all know the result was the stagnation of Japan's economy for 20 years, and sky fall profits for U.S treasures`````however, now you are dealling with Japan's formal master, you can only fooling yourself with your primitive stunts that can only bully those are small and weak```:lol:
 
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The U.S was unhappy with the trade deficit, accusing Yuan was "kept" low so those Made in China products were cheaper, so they want Yuan to appreciate,```` and this Trump guy came into the play, after few maneuvers the Yuan started to depreciate, and the trade deficit to China keeps going as usual if not pacing up`````so where is the "vitory" these funny and ignorant American yelling about?

too young to naive, I'd say`````:lol:

in the 80s they did the same thing to Japan, after the Plaza treaty, Japanese's Yen "enjoyed" a decade long appreciation against Dollar````and we all know the result was the stagnation of Japan's economy for 20 years, and sky fall profits for U.S treasures`````however, now you are dealling with Japan's formal master, you can only fooling yourself with your primitive stunts that can only bully those are small and weak```:lol:
You don't know those American clown will do self comforting by keep adjusting their standard theory to suit the defeated situation? :enjoy:
 
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Fore decades that US complains that China manipulates her currrency by making it artificially low against US dollars and every year US suffers great losses because of this artificially lowered value of RMB. So now what US is gonna do about this?
Seems like China is ready to fleece US again.

As the world number one manufacturing nation Chinese products will be more competitive in price while more US companies will be priced out of the global market, after this round ,more US companies will go bankrupt.

China sells more than she buys, a weak Yuan is a great advantage for China in everyway.

Taking into account China's currency depreciation, China's GDP output relative to the US economy will be effectively wiped out for the year. Meanwhile the US economy will add nearly $1 trillion to its GDP, coming in just shy of $21 trillion.
Do you really think China cares? We care more about we can actually get in hands than an empty number.
 
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china central bank may be buying dollar from market and trying to end dollar use by its public by ensuring that all dollar in china is taken by govt after which china may sell dollar in international market against gold or yuan to eliminate dollar permanently from china and this currency devaluation may be temporarily result of this measure
 
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What China worries the most is strong Yuan, that will certainly hurt China'a export. For decades, it's been the biggest dispute between China and US in trade talks.
 
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Wait, I thought China was "cheating" by keeping the value of the Yuan low?

Now it's supposed to be a good thing for America? :lol: Trump's tariffs have been completely wiped out by this devaluation, and the American trade deficit is reaching yet another record high.

Trump 2020. :enjoy:

Umm, it does not work that way.

You are comparing a fix value to float value.

Just because RMB is devalued, that does not mean the tariff is devalued too, because the tariff is charge to a fix amount, not charge per item. Which mean the devaluation of RMB will lead to MORE Chinese product being charge a tariff.

That mean it is not good for Chinese export...
 
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Umm, it does not work that way.

You are comparing a fix value to float value.

Just because RMB is devalued, that does not mean the tariff is devalued too, because the tariff is charge to a fix amount, not charge per item. Which mean the devaluation of RMB will lead to MORE Chinese product being charge a tariff.

That mean it is not good for Chinese export...

Well, This is how it works in a nutshell:

At 6 per USD exchange rate, a Chinese exporter sells his products to US customer at 100 USD, it pays USD 20 tariff to US custom (assuming @20%). The exporter bring 80 USD back to China. And he turns around and sells USD to PBOC and he gets 480 RMB.

Now RMB depreciated to say 7 per USD, what happens is that the exporter will reduce the price to 85.7 USD. He pays 17 USD to US custom at 20% tariff. He gains 68.7 USd, which equals to the same 480 RMB by selling them to PBOC again. He is indifferent and happy. Now it doesn’t take a genius to work out who ends up with less money.:what:
 
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Well, This is how it works in a nutshell:

At 6 per USD exchange rate, a Chinese exporter sells his products to US customer at 100 USD, it pays USD 20 tariff to US custom (assuming @20%). The exporter bring 80 USD back to China. And he turns around and sells USD to PBOC and he gets 480 RMB.

Now RMB depreciated to say 7 per USD, what happens is that the exporter will reduce the price to 85.7 USD. He pays 17 USD to US custom at 20% tariff. He gains 68.7 USd, which equals to the same 480 RMB by selling them to PBOC again. He is indifferent and happy. Now it doesn’t take a genius to work out who ends up with less money.:what:

In your case, US tariff charged is $17, not $20. But since Tariff is on a quota system, the US will still get their $20 Tariff quota anyway, which mean they will charge the $3 dollars outstanding different from something else. meaning other product may be affected, or the % of tariff may get hiked.

Because Trump said US WILL charge 50 billions worth of tariff, not we will charge XXX amount of item with X% of a tariff. So, in the end, US will still end up $50 billions worth of Tariff, but the number of item US charge tariff on Chinese import will increase, and that mean number of Chinese import subject to US tariff will increase or the amount of tariff charge per product will increase (most likely latter), and it does not take a genius to work out who will be a happy customer in the end.

The amount of tariff is constant (always 50 billions or whatever the target set), where as in your case, you assume the % of tariff charge is constant and not the total amount of tariff charged, which is not the case, so, basically you made the same mistake Dragon made.
 
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