China's violent Christian cult: Church of Almighty God - BBC News

[beijingwalker]

China's violent Christian cult: Church of Almighty God - BBC News

 

[beijingwalker]

Christianity in China: Crosses to bear

China believes that all religious practice should be through proper channels, churches , mosques, religious schools.. online preaching, which is the favorite means by ISIS, or underground churches can also twist the teachings to fit their own agenda, more often than not, alluring followers to take the radical path thus undermines China's social stability and unity.

 

[war&peace]

Wow' that's alarming. and since they are christians..no one will call them terrorists but if a similar cult appeared in Muslim, they will be termed terrorists immediately even if they did half the damage.

 

[initial_d_mk2]

I just know from this thread that the chinese comunist govt let christian to spread it's influence on china citizen, it is a start of an end for comunism in china

 

[beijingwalker]

I just know from this thread that the chinese comunist govt let christian to spread it's influence on china citizen, it is a start of an end for comunism in china

It's not the first time they try this after 1840's Opium war, that's why later we had famous Boxing movement which local peasents took up arms to kill whoever Christians they met. China can never be a Christian country, Confucians ideology is too deep rooted in every Chinese blood. China ranks the least religious country in the world. Google and find out the rankings.

 

[initial_d_mk2]

It's not the first time they try this up1840's Opium war, that's why later we had famous Boxing movement which local peasents took up arms to kill whoever Christians they met. China can never be a Christian country, Confucians ideology is too deep rooted in every Chinese blood. China ranks the least religious country in the world. Google and find out the rankings.

I don't know about that, but south korea once a confucian state, and now majority of them embrace christianity, are church easy to find on china cities?

 

[takeiteasy]

Communism's roots are in Christianity JFYI.

“Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.”
- Oswald Spengler

"Christianity and communism are very close spiritually and ideologically. This is a fairly well known concept that has been adopted by various thinkers, from Thomas More to Lev Tolstoy. Few people know that the world's first socialist state was established in Paraguay and was based on the ideas of Catholic Jesuits before Marx created his teachings."

"The "Society of Jesus" - the Jesuit religious order - in the Catholic Church was roughly equivalent to the KGB in the Soviet Union."
Above quotes taken from "Pravda" [The main Communist Party Newspaper and leading newspaper of the former Soviet Union] From the article: Is there any difference between Christianity and Communism? 30/04/2013

"American Newspapers claim that Stalin has been preordained to save Christianity.
-Josef Goebbels 1

Communism is not anti-Christian, as is commonly believed:
In addition to this, the Catholic Church in China has over 70 million members and is growing. There is also the Catholic Changchung Cathedral in Communist North Korea; the nominal cathedral of the Roman Catholic Bishop of Pyongyang, North Korea. The Russian Orthodox Church worked hand in hand with the Communist Party in the USSR. The violence against its Clergy during the revolution, was simply to weed out the Czarist elements from its ranks, and nothing more. Stalin openly worked with the Orthodox Church to help the Communist war effort for the Red Army during the second world war. Today in Russia, high ranking Clergy in the Russian Orthodox Church openly advocate a Christian Communist movement within their nation. The Catholic Church also has had a strong hand in the Communistic, Liberation Theology in South America. It’s no mistake Catholic Clergy could traverse the “Iron Curtain” during the cold war with ease.
80 million Bibles printed in China - and counting Link to article from 'Christianity Today.'

More here:
http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Communism_is_Christianity.html

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I don't know about that, but south korea once a confucian state, and now majority of them embrace christianity, are church easy to find on china cities?

hahahha u must be a christian yourself.

Communism's roots are in Christianity JFYI.

More here:
http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Communism_is_Christianity.html

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Karl Marx explicitly described in detail on the topic of his antagonism with religion, which in his POV, is seen as a primitive concept invented by mankind in the distant past- restricting progressive human development by giving the people a false sense of faith and belief in an 'all-almighty' being.

China was 1 of the 1st few nation states in the Modern era to implement State Atheism, complemented by the fact that Confucianism itself is already atheistic.

Hence the reason why the Chinese are the world's most Atheistic people.

BTW, if the Chinese indeed have the potential to become overwhelmingly christian, such a phenomenon would had happened a f**king long time ago since the Tang dynasty.





PS* Im an ex-Buddhist( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichiren_Buddhism , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada) and ex-Protestant ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism ) myself.

Im glad i went the way of being religious => irreligious. I prefer to believe that we humans evolved from primates than from dust and that men were created from women instead of the other way round(with the aid of a rib).

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-sapiens
http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-were-once-all-female
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...eople-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html
http://www.newsweek.com/atheism-intelligence-religion-evolution-instinct-natural-selection-610982
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_intelligence

Haha so does 'God' exists? make your own judgement.

 

[beijingwalker]

I don't know about that, but south korea once a confucian state, and now majority of them embrace christianity, are church easy to find on china cities?

Churches are everywhere in Chinese cities,but it doesn't have any influence on Chinese culture. As for Koreans, they are more Confucians than Christians cause their cultures and values are still Confucian.

 

[nang2]

Wow' that's alarming. and since they are christians..no one will call them terrorists but if a similar cult appeared in Muslim, they will be termed terrorists immediately even if they did half the damage.

The word "terrorist", like the word "fascist", has been badly abused. People now call anyone they don't like to be a terrorist if he wears plain clothes and uses force.

 

[kuge]

China's violent Christian cult: Church of Almighty God - BBC News

true bible followers do not practise any violence....for their hope is in a future kingdom that will replace existing human government.

 

[powastick]

true bible followers do not practise any violence....for their hope is in a future kingdom that will replace existing human government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatuey
The Taino chiefs in Cuba did not respond to Hatuey's message, and few joined him to fight. Hatuey resorted to guerrilla tactics against the Spaniards, and was able to confine them for a time. He and his fighters were able to kill at least eight Spanish soldiers. Eventually, using mastiffs and torturing the Native people for information, the Spaniards succeeded in capturing him. On February 2, 1512, he was tied to a stake and burned alive at Yara, near present-day City of Bayamo (See Jose Barreiro, "A Note on Taino," in View From the Shore, Cornell Akwe:son Press, 1990.)

Before he was burned, a priest asked Hatuey if he would accept Jesus and go to heaven. Las Casas recalled the reaction of the chief:

[Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people. This is the name and honor that God and our faith have earned.

Do you see the hypocrisy in today's world? Christians are moral cowards.

 

[beijingwalker]

true bible followers do not practise any violence....for their hope is in a future kingdom that will replace existing human government.

Were crusaders true followers of God?

 

[samsara]

Were crusaders true followers of God?

You will have to ask Vatican City, the remnant of the Roman Empire. It's the Pope back then who divided the world for conquer by the Spain and Portuguese... to loot, colonize and christianize!

Think the native Indian people in the South America and the Red Indian people in the North America may give some clues too

 

[beijingwalker]

Protestants and Catholics have been killing each other for centuries, don't know which of them are the true followers.