China’s top talent now wants to work for rising domestic tech stars, not big brand multinationals

[Viet]

No, they r not patriots. Actually most of those Cnese cant speak and write English well (Indian,Pak speaking E much better), so they cant get jobs in big US firms and they have No choice but going back to CN and find part time jobs

Maybe the case. Pakistani engineers speak good English. Tunesians can both French and English. They speak German very well. Chinese can certainly speak English or German, but when they speak the people know they come from China. That is the problem. Customers don’t want to hear a German speaker with chinese accent.

Vietnamese usually speak like locals. That is something only few Chinese can. When I speak English on the phone, some people think I come from Scotland. Or speaking German, they think, I come from northern part of Germany.

If you can’t speak like locals, you get big trouble to land a good paying job. Having Master degree is good but in many cases not good enough.

 

[beijingwalker]

Maybe the case. Pakistani engineers speak good English. Tunesia can both French and English. They speak German very well. Chinese can certainly speak English or German, but when they speak the people know they come from China. That is the problem. Customers don’t want to hear a German speaker with chinese accent.

Vietnamese usually speak like locals. That is something only few Chinese can. When I speak English on the phone, some people think I come from Scotland. Or speaking German, they think, I come from northern part of Germany.

If you can’t speak like locals, you get big trouble to land a good paying job.

Almost all Chinese used to stay and worked in US after study there, not anymore, now almost all come back to China after they graduate, it's not about language, it's about the change of China.

 

[nang2]

Almost all Chinese used to stay and worked in US after study there, not anymore, now almost all come back to China after they graduate, it's not about language, it's about the change of China.

It is both. Language is always a barrier for Chinese working and living in US. The change of China makes fighting with that barrier no longer worthwhile.

 

[Viet]

Almost all Chinese used to stay and worked in US after study there, not anymore, now almost all come back to China after they graduate, it's not about language, it's about the change of China.

It’s a waste of money if you ask me, spending money on foreign education then working for domestic company.

Most chinese want to live in groups. But most countries don’t want slums or ghettos. Maybe the reason why chinese graduates return to the motherland?

 

[beijingwalker]

It’s a waste of money if you ask me, spending money on foreign education then working for domestic company.

Most chinese want to live in groups. But most countries don’t want slums or ghettos. Maybe the reason why chinese graduates return to the motherland?

Chinese used to stay and work in US, but now China offiers more money and opportunities, people go after where money and opportunites present, how come you don't see this common sense.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Maybe the case. Pakistani engineers speak good English. Tunesians can both French and English. They speak German very well. Chinese can certainly speak English or German, but when they speak the people know they come from China. That is the problem. Customers don’t want to hear a German speaker with chinese accent.

Vietnamese usually speak like locals. That is something only few Chinese can. When I speak English on the phone, some people think I come from Scotland. Or speaking German, they think, I come from northern part of Germany.

If you can’t speak like locals, you get big trouble to land a good paying job. Having Master degree is good but in many cases not good enough.

Same problem in VN, many VN students try to finish the Master degree, but they cant get good jobs in big US firms, so they go back to VN and their parents try to get jobs for them .

btw, most of their parents paid money for them to study abroad too. Most of them r not smart enough to get full scholarship

 

[Viet]

Chinese used to stay and work in US, but now China offiers more money and opportunities, people go after where money and opportunites present, how come you don't see this common sense.

More money more opportunities?
Ok can you say how much more money and what more opportunities?
I hear Huawei pays good, but how many Huawei do you have in CN?

Even if you have 1,000 Huawei, sorry, how many graduates China produces per year?

 

[beijingwalker]

More money more opportunities?
Ok can you say how much more money and what more opportunities?
I hear Huawei pays good, but how many Huawei do you have in CN?

Even if you have 1,000 Huawei, sorry, how many graduates China produces per year?

All Chinese studied in US used to stay and work in US in the past, now 90% come back to China, you tell me why.

 

[Viva_Viet]

All Chinese studied in US used to stay and work in US in the past, now 90% come back to China, you tell me why.

Cos their English suck and they r not smart,too. 99% of those Cnese cant get full scholarship.

 

[Viet]

All Chinese studied in US used to stay and work in US in the past, now 90% come back to China, you tell me why.

90 percent come back to communist paradise? Wow! I didn’t know it.
For most Vietnamese, that is the worst nightmare, living and working in an environment with 99.99 percent chinese.

 

[AViet]

90 percent come back to communist paradise? Wow! I didn’t know it.
For most Vietnamese, that is the worst nightmare, living and working in an environment with 99.99 percent chinese.

Communist paradise China is now better than most parts of West, which are poverty-stricken, plagued by violence, racist, and chaotic. And the chance to get rich in China seems to be a lot more than in the West, at least for ethnic Chinese.

 

[tower9]

Maybe the case. Pakistani engineers speak good English. Tunesians can both French and English. They speak German very well. Chinese can certainly speak English or German, but when they speak the people know they come from China. That is the problem. Customers don’t want to hear a German speaker with chinese accent.

Vietnamese usually speak like locals. That is something only few Chinese can. When I speak English on the phone, some people think I come from Scotland. Or speaking German, they think, I come from northern part of Germany.

If you can’t speak like locals, you get big trouble to land a good paying job. Having Master degree is good but in many cases not good enough.

Did you grow up in Europe? Because the Vietnamese here definitely speak with a huge accent if they had immigrated from Vietnam.

I've noticed that Mandarin speakers are actually a lot better with pronouncing English than Cantonese or Vietnamese speakers.

It's pretty simple why many Mainland Chinese go back to China after their education, because they have a lot more opportunities there. Not only will they have zero limits because of their racial background in China, but the pace of change in China is so fast that opportunities come faster and it is easier to set up a large business than in over-regulated US. I've been to both Silicon Valley and Shenzhen and Silicon Valley feels like a tiny village in comparison although it is still slightly in the lead.

 

[Viet]

Did you grow up in Europe? Because the Vietnamese here definitely speak with a huge accent if they had immigrated from Vietnam.

I've noticed that Mandarin speakers are actually a lot better with pronouncing English than Cantonese or Vietnamese speakers.

It's pretty simple why many Mainland Chinese go back to China after their education, because they have a lot more opportunities there. Not only will they have zero limits because of their racial background in China, but the pace of change in China is so fast that opportunities come faster and it is easier to set up a large business than in over-regulated US. I've been to both Silicon Valley and Shenzhen and Silicon Valley feels like a tiny village in comparison although it is still slightly in the lead.

Nobody is stopping you from returning to China. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

No I grew up in Vietnam. I can speak like locals. Unlike Chinese, Vietnamese make every effort to assimilate into the host country where they live.

 

[tower9]

Nobody is stopping you from returning to China. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

No I grew up in Vietnam. I can speak like locals. Unlike Chinese, Vietnamese make every effort to assimilate into the host country where they live.

I grew up in the US. This is my home. I'm talking about the Chinese who came as students.

Nobody is stopping you from returning to China. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

No I grew up in Vietnam. I can speak like locals. Unlike Chinese, Vietnamese make every effort to assimilate into the host country where they live.

I don't know where you get that from. There are a lot of Vietnamese in the US who can't speak English. I don't really see that much difference between the immigrants from Vietnam or China except many of the recent Chinese immigrants are more wealthy.

 

[Viet]

I grew up in the US. This is my home. I'm talking about the Chinese who came as students.



I don't know where you get that from. There are a lot of Vietnamese in the US who can't speak English. I don't really see that much difference between the immigrants from Vietnam or China except many of the recent Chinese immigrants are more wealthy.

Ok that is their choice in spending money on foreign university then return home because it’s better at home.

I mean that sounds funny but ok.

Certainly newly arrived Vietnamese immigrants that work in nails shops, restaurants, etc speak a bad English. I mean other Vietnamese that attend university and colleges.