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China's Renewable Energy to Outpace U.S., E.U. and Japan Combined

lol, their word not mine.

"Chinese is too big to care people think they are bad" :)

Why should people care about other people think that they are bad anyway.
None of the nations in the world admits themselves are bad.
 
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Why should people care about other people think that they are bad anyway.
None of the nations in the world admits themselves are bad.

lol mate, don't shoot the messanger, i am just telling another dude what other dude said in the past.

I did not endorse or oppose anything anyone said in this forum
 
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lol mate, don't shoot the messanger, i am just telling another dude what other dude said in the past.

I did not endorse or oppose anything anyone said in this forum

I'm just sharing my idea, not shooting any dude here.
 
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Go back to your elementary school ant this time you need learn really really hard!


Holy lord, yes I Googled for the picture and picked up some of the details from there, (were you expecting me to sketch you one?), and yes the fifth link is from the website where I picked it up. Do you honestly think I don't know what electrolysis is? Something I was taught 5 years ago in High School?

The energy efficiency for the reduction of oxygen isn't on par with what is needed for widespread adoption of hydrogen fuel cells. (here's an idea, go find out why that's the case, HINT redox)

Yes the efficiency of fuel cells isn't nearly as high as that of non-renewable technology. But we can DEFINITELY provide more energy output than is required for input.

I.e look up the NUMEROUS fuel cell cars/planes/etc in the world. I am a part of the UWA REV team (though admittedly haven't participated in anything for a while), we've successfully proved the viability of fuel cell vehicles.

Here's a link: http://therevproject.com

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.
 
It's better to fight with a wise man than to argue with a fool.
At last they always win. Maybe you should not waste time in a fool.


"But we can DEFINITELY provide more energy output than is required for input."

I'm tired. Prove it.
 
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Go back to your elementary school ant this time you need learn really really hard!


 
It's better to fight with a wise man than to argue with a fool.
At last they always win. Maybe you should not waste time in a fool.

I'm not sure how one learns really, really hard. At best I can I only try really really hard to learn.

A product of way too much nationalism in way too immature a mind.

"But we can DEFINITELY provide more energy output than is required for input."

I'm tired. Prove it.

Moron.

The REV Project
The REV Project - Energy Status
 
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Haha this is your proof ? Are you kidding me ? Scientific around the world work on it but you can't find a paper about it ?
 
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Haha this is your proof ? Are you kidding me ? Scientific around the world work on it but you can't find a paper about it ?

I give up man, you win. You have about as much comprehension ability as a brick wall.

Index of /theses

If you're really interested in renewable energy projects, look from 2008 onwards for theses papers.

PS: A friend, John Pearce has his thesis there, go to page 13/14 on energy usage w.r.t to a typical household usage.

Also: Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars More Viable With Cheaper, More Efficient Electrolysis?
 
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"Yeah, search it...you don't find it ? It's not because it doesn't exist, it's because you do it wrong !"

You can't give me a single paper...just one...or even a newspaper article...anything. Anyway I think you know you are wrong and you can't prove your point.
 
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"Yeah, search it...you don't find it ? It's not because it doesn't exist, it's because you do it wrong !"

You can't give me a single paper...just one...or even a newspaper article...anything. Anyway I think you know you are wrong and you can't prove your point.

One of the first results from Google Scholar. A patent INCLUSIVE of research findings.

Column 4 line 30, I hope you're able to interpret it properly.

Patent US6365290 - High-efficiency fuel cell system - Google Patents

Do you need me to make aeroplane noises when I spoon feed you?

PS: This is the paper by John that I was telling you about in my previous post.

http://robotics.ee.uwa.edu.au/theses/2009-REV-3-PowerLogging-Pearce.pdf

How old are you man? IF you're less than 15 I'm gonna feel bad for mocking you.
 
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What does that paper from your friend has anything to do with hydrogen fuel cell lol ? He is only talking about solar panels and then he shows some shitty graphics from his project , that's your proof ? You can't be serious...

The paper from Google scholar deals with high efficiency fuel cell, by using the heat wasted by the fuel cell. Nice. There's not even one line about electrolysis. Theres nothing at line 30.

Scientifics all over the world are working on it but you can't find one paper where it is clearly said we can get more energy from a hydrogen fuel cell than we used to produce hydrogen from water ?
 
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What does that paper from your friend has anything to do with hydrogen fuel cell lol ? He is only talking about solar panels and then he shows some shitty graphics from his project , that's your proof ? You can't be serious...

The paper from Google scholar deals with high efficiency fuel cell, by using the heat wasted by the fuel cell. Nice. There's not even one line about electrolysis. Theres nothing at line 30.

Scientifics all over the world are working on it but you can't find one paper where it is clearly said we can get more energy from a hydrogen fuel cell than we used to produce hydrogen from water ?

Hydrogen Power and Fuel Cells

http://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/progress10/viii_0_technology_validation_overview.pdf
Hyundai to reveal hydrogen fuel cell vehicle at L.A. Auto Show | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Why do you think all these car manufacturers are releasing fuel cell vehicles. Is it because, maybe, it's actually viable? :o

Please read and post your thoughts. Indiscernible as they may be.

Re: REV report

Yeah my bad, there are a few different REV projects, I didn't actually read the theses. Looks like they went with the solar powered alternative instead of the prototype I worked on (designed the steering linkage)
Re: Google Scholar Patent

You know very well that, that patent is a clear and definitive proof that fuel cells are an effective source of energy. That's simply one of the methods that fuel cells can be made viable. Who the frick says it has to be the basic model with electrolysis with two electrodes that we learn during high school?
 
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