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China’s nomination of Sinopec for LNG deal with Pakistan worries officials
By Zafar Bhutta
Published: June 14, 2016
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Energy firm is facing corruption probe, Pakistan says it could be an issue. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: China has nominated its largest energy firm, Sinopec, to sign a government-to-government LNG deal worth billions of dollars with Pakistan, but officials have expressed concern over the Beijing-based company that is facing a corruption probe.

Officials familiar with the development said that Pakistan was negotiating LNG supply deals with different countries including France, Italy and China on a government-to-government basis. But China had nominated Sinopec, which was facing a corruption probe and could lead to problems in materialising the deal.


After Italy, Pakistan in talks with France for LNG supply

As global oil prices slump, LNG is readily available and countries that have supply agreements want to enter into a deal with Pakistan that is desperately looking to import the fuel and bridge its supply-demand gap. Officials said that China was one of the countries which had LNG supply agreements and wanted to export it to Pakistan.

However, they added that China’s nomination of Sinopec could be an issue.

A senior government official said that Pakistan was currently in negotiations for LNG supply with different countries like Italy, France and China. He said that Pakistan wanted to sign government to government deals with these countries after it recently approved the second LNG terminal contract to the successful bidder.

He said that Pakistan has forwarded the draft of a government-to-government deal to these three countries.

The official said that talks with Russian firm Gazprom were under way as well. He said that the Russian firm had offered LNG and Pakistan was keen to proceed as well.

Officials said that US had also conveyed during the energy working group meeting that prices of LNG would come down and therefore, it asked Pakistan to sign LNG supply agreements with other world suppliers. Pakistan has an agreement with Qatar for 400 mmcfd gas, while Gunvor was supplying 100 mmcfd.

Russian team coming for key talks on $1.7b gas pipeline

Gas utilities have a pipeline capacity of 400 mmcfd. These companies will add 1.2 bcfd capacity in December 2016, in a bid to cater to the greater supply.

The current LNG terminal in Karachi also has a capacity of 600 mmcfd, while the second, which would be completed in 11 eleven months, would add to the capacity.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 14th, 2016.

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I don't understand one thing from Pakistan's perspective, why the LNG not imported from Iran. It certainly cost very less compare to any country in the world for Pakistan. Then why they are not unto agreement with Iran. Especially Pakistan looking to build good relationship with its neigbhour Iran.

Can somebody give any reason ?? I really don't understand this ...?
 
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I don't understand one thing from Pakistan's perspective, why the LNG not imported from Iran. It certainly cost very less compare to any country in the world for Pakistan. Then why they are not unto agreement with Iran. Especially Pakistan looking to build good relationship with its neigbhour Iran.

Can somebody give any reason ?? I really don't understand this ...?

We did try to negotiate a deal in the past but Iranians were demanding a ridiculous price. As far as i remember market price at that time was 7/unit whereas they were demanding close to 14. It is the same reason Pak Iran pipe line is stalled as they are not willing to renegotiate and are demanding sale at same price.
 
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I don't understand one thing from Pakistan's perspective, why the LNG not imported from Iran. It certainly cost very less compare to any country in the world for Pakistan. Then why they are not unto agreement with Iran. Especially Pakistan looking to build good relationship with its neigbhour Iran.

Can somebody give any reason ?? I really don't understand this ...?


Iran does not export LNG at this time. They could be in a position to do so in a couple of years.

Per 2015 World LNG Report were Qatar 76.8-million tons, Malaysia 25.1-million tons, Australia 23.3-million tons, Indonesia 16-miilion tons and Oman 7.9 - million tons.

I fail to see the rationale for G to G discussions with Italy, France or China for LNG supply. Neither of these countries are LNG exporters
 
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I don't understand one thing from Pakistan's perspective, why the LNG not imported from Iran. It certainly cost very less compare to any country in the world for Pakistan. Then why they are not unto agreement with Iran. Especially Pakistan looking to build good relationship with its neigbhour Iran.

Can somebody give any reason ?? I really don't understand this ...?

In real Pakistan don't trust Iran simple...
 
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In real Pakistan don't trust Iran simple...
Got it. simple and plain.
But I do see coutries do business with others whether they like them or not. Example Gulf countries do business with Isreal.

Iran does not export LNG at this time. They could be in a position to do so in a couple of years.

Per 2015 World LNG Report were Qatar 76.8-million tons, Malaysia 25.1-million tons, Australia 23.3-million tons, Indonesia 16-miilion tons and Oman 7.9 - million tons.

I fail to see the rationale for G to G discussions with Italy, France or China for LNG supply. Neither of these countries are LNG exporters

If Iran does not export LNG, then why there was a pipeline project agreement between Pakistan and Iran ?? can you pls explain as I am not aware of the facts.

We did try to negotiate a deal in the past but Iranians were demanding a ridiculous price. As far as i remember market price at that time was 7/unit whereas they were demanding close to 14. It is the same reason Pak Iran pipe line is stalled as they are not willing to renegotiate and are demanding sale at same price.

Yes, valid points. Each buyer and seller should agree on price conclusion whether it is individuals, or Coporates, or countries. Thanks.
 
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Got it. simple and plain.
But I do see coutries do business with others whether they like them or not. Example Gulf countries do business with Isreal.



If Iran does not export LNG, then why there was a pipeline project agreement between Pakistan and Iran ?? can you pls explain as I am not aware of the facts.



Yes, valid points. Each buyer and seller should agree on price conclusion whether it is individuals, or Coporates, or countries. Thanks.

The dynamics of Gulf countries and our is completely different.
 
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The dynamics of Gulf countries and our is completely different.

Is it ?? Unbelievable. Infact I did had an impression that Gulf Countries and Pakistan is a long time Allies and share brotherhood.
 
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I don't understand one thing from Pakistan's perspective, why the LNG not imported from Iran. It certainly cost very less compare to any country in the world for Pakistan. Then why they are not unto agreement with Iran. Especially Pakistan looking to build good relationship with its neigbhour Iran.

Can somebody give any reason ?? I really don't understand this ...?

Iran will start to export LNG in 2018, we need it now, obviously when the Iranians enter the Market two years from now and if the price is right, we can always buy from them to.
 
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So China just nominated? They didnt bother to ask? Thats rude and more like a violation of sovereignty but I guess its allowed from China.

This is exactly what happens when you become too dependent on single country. Always keep your options open, dont get isolated to a single country otherwise they will have more than enough power to do whatever they want irrespective of your wishes.
 
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We live near iran border and we get LNG, electricity, flour and many other edible items from iran. We get them in very cheap price and they are in better quality as compare to Pakistani stuffs.
 
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So China just nominated? They didnt bother to ask? Thats rude and more like a violation of sovereignty but I guess its allowed from China.

This is exactly what happens when you become too dependent on single country. Always keep your options open, dont get isolated to a single country otherwise they will have more than enough power to do whatever they want irrespective of your wishes.
Violation of what ??:rofl:seroiousky get over your inferiority complex son
 
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So China just nominated? They didnt bother to ask? Thats rude and more like a violation of sovereignty but I guess its allowed from China.

This is exactly what happens when you become too dependent on single country. Always keep your options open, dont get isolated to a single country otherwise they will have more than enough power to do whatever they want irrespective of your wishes.

'Officials familiar with the development said that Pakistan was negotiating LNG supply deals with different countries including France, Italy and China on a government-to-government basis.'

May be people troll you because you don't read articles before making sensational posts.
We have our options open. Italy, france and China are more than enough.



Violation of what ??:rofl:seroiousky get over your inferiority complex son
I think he does it for attention. A trend which I have noticed in many Indian members.
 
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