China's harassment of Muslims | DW Documentary

[MultaniGuy]

I think he meant it "Openly."

But in secrecy the BJP does say things against Muslims in India.

 

[Rollno21]

Its wrong to persecute anyone. But hey why doesn't Indian mention Muslim persecution in India?

Time to call a spade a spade.

This is your post

Thats because Ahmadis claim to be Muslims when they are not.

Nice try though.

You are ok with ahmadis being prosecuted because of their faith .

The reason I asked you for dates is because ,you had no problem taking their support for the creation of Pakistan but once you get what you want you do what you want with them.you guys even had problem when a ahmedi was included in the advisory group to advice on economics and you have the stomach to talk about a country which had a Muslim president,Muslim intelligence chief,Muslim airforce chief,Muslim 3 star general etc.

 

[MultaniGuy]

This is your post

You are ok with ahmadis being prosecuted because of their faith .

The reason I asked you for dates is because ,you had no problem taking their support for the creation of Pakistan but once you get what you want you do what you want with them.you guys even had problem when a ahmedi was included in the advisory group to advice on economics and you have the stomach to talk about a country which had a Muslim president,Muslim intelligence chief,Muslim airforce chief,Muslim 3 star general etc.

You are stupid. I never said persecute Ahmadis. I just said Ahmadis don't have the right to call themselves Muslims.

You are an idiot.

We don't claim to be a secular country you moron, like India claims to be.

Ahmadis have the right to be treated according to just and moral principles. Ahmadis must be treated like any other Human being.

According to Mainstream Muslims, Ahmadis are heretics.

In an Islamic country why should we allow them to preach their heresy idiot?

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Pakistan is not a secular country, India is a secular country.

You are a hypocrite.

 

[HannibalBarca]

So... Why this change of Topic...
Can't we stay on Topic once? or is too hard to ask?

Are you gonna speak about Muslims problem a round the world at every Uighur thread or what? We always find few running from the subject by speaking of something else?

 

[UserUnknown2025]

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So... Why this change of Topic...
Can't we stay on Topic once? or is too hard to ask?

Are you gonna speak about Muslims problem a round the world at every Uighur thread or what? We always find few running from the subject by speaking of something else?

Off topic? Bro, every time your arguments get annilated you just switch to something else. I suppose what you said is an excellent example of your hubby, being off topic. Keep in mind I’m not criticizing you at all. I’m just glad to learn something today.

 

[HannibalBarca]

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Off topic? Bro, every time your arguments get annilated you just switch to something else. I suppose what you said is an excellent example of your hubby, being off topic. Keep in mind I’m not criticizing you at all. I’m just glad to learn something today.

To get/have an annihilated argument..You need someone to answer to it... I answered to no one... Only made Observation of this thread "future"
But hey... What can I except from you guys...

But one thing I'm sure... 2-0 for me
Cya at the next thread.

With Love.

Ps: If you have something to add to this "TOPIC" go on... no need to answer me... I wouldn't...
Back to Topic...

 

[UserUnknown2025]

To be have an annihilated argument..You need someone to answer to it... I answered to no one... Only an Observation of this thread "future"
But hey... What can I except from you guys...

But one thing I'm sure... 2-0 for me
Cya at the next thread.

With Love.

Ps: If you have something to add to this "TOPIC" go on... no need to answer me... I wouldn't...
Back to Topic...

See this is what I’m talking about. When you get exposed, you’ll feel better if you don’t try to cover it up and deal random insults to other members.

If you need help, just ask others. You really don’t need to hide it.

 

[Rollno21]

You are stupid. I never said persecute Ahmadis. I just said Ahmadis don't have the right to call themselves Muslims.

You are an idiot.

We don't claim to be a secular country you moron, like India claims to be.

Ahmadis have the right to be treated according to just and moral principles. Ahmadis must be treated like any other Human being.

According to Mainstream Muslims, Ahmadis are heretics.

In an Islamic country why should we allow them to preach their heresy idiot?

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Pakistan is not a secular country, India is a secular country.

You are a hypocrite.

It seems you have comprehension problem.
Let me make is simple for you.
1)was your countrymen wrong for opposing a ahmedi being included in the advisory group to the pm on economics.he was not selected for preaching religion ?
2) you cameup with Pakistan is not a secular country but a Islamic republic.so are you saying the secular standard are higher that Islamic standard that you expect everyone should get equal rights in a secular country but cannot expect the same in Islamic countries .and mind you there are no ifs and buts in what I said.

 

[atan651]

Chinese citizens, Muslim and no-Muslim, must not get cute and go against Chinese laws!

 

[MultaniGuy]

It seems you have comprehension problem.
Let me make is simple for you.
1)was your countrymen wrong for opposing a ahmedi being included in the advisory group to the pm on economics.he was not selected for preaching religion ?
2) you cameup with Pakistan is not a secular country but a Islamic republic.so are you saying the secular standard are higher that Islamic standard that you expect everyone should get equal rights in a secular country but cannot expect the same in Islamic countries .and mind you there are no ifs and buts in what I said.

Again you are incredibly stupid, and you are looking for a ban.

A Non-Muslim cannot be the leader of an Islamic country. Why should we be ruled by a minority, you idiot.

Its like saying a Communist from China should be the President of USA, you moron.

Non-Muslims in Pakistan must be treated according to justice and moral principles like everyone else.

It seems you have comprehension problem.
Let me make is simple for you.
1)was your countrymen wrong for opposing a ahmedi being included in the advisory group to the pm on economics.he was not selected for preaching religion ?
2) you cameup with Pakistan is not a secular country but a Islamic republic.so are you saying the secular standard are higher that Islamic standard that you expect everyone should get equal rights in a secular country but cannot expect the same in Islamic countries .and mind you there are no ifs and buts in what I said.

You idiot, I did not say the secular standard is higher than the Islamic standard you moron.

For us Muslims, the Islamic standard is the highest standard.

 

[Serious Carrey]

It seems you have comprehension problem.
Let me make is simple for you.
1)was your countrymen wrong for opposing a ahmedi being included in the advisory group to the pm on economics.he was not selected for preaching religion ?
2) you cameup with Pakistan is not a secular country but a Islamic republic.so are you saying the secular standard are higher that Islamic standard that you expect everyone should get equal rights in a secular country but cannot expect the same in Islamic countries .and mind you there are no ifs and buts in what I said.

All most all threads about Chinese treatment of Muslims are finally going off topic (discussing India's treatment of Muslims or Pakistan's treatment of its minorities). Please open new threads for different topics.

@Rollno21 @Iqbal Ali

 

[Rollno21]

Again you are incredibly stupid, and you are looking for a ban.

A Non-Muslim cannot be the leader of an Islamic country. Why should we be ruled by a minority, you idiot.

Its like saying a Communist from China should be the President of USA, you moron.

Non-Muslims in Pakistan must be treated according to justice and moral principles like everyone else.

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

Again you are incredibly stupid, and you are looking for a ban.

A Non-Muslim cannot be the leader of an Islamic country. Why should we be ruled by a minority, you idiot.

Its like saying a Communist from China should be the President of USA, you moron.

Non-Muslims in Pakistan must be treated according to justice and moral principles like everyone else.


You idiot, I did not say the secular standard is higher than the Islamic standard you moron.

For us Muslims, the Islamic standard is the highest standard.

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .

All most all threads about Chinese treatment of Muslims are finally going off topic (discussing India's treatment of Muslims or Pakistan's treatment of its minorities). Please open new threads for different topics.

@Rollno21 @Iqbal Ali

Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

 

[Serious Carrey]

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .


Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

It was not you brother. I saw that @Iqbal Ali diverted the topic in the first place.

 

[MultaniGuy]

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .


Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

Shut up you idiot. I have every right to bring India into this, since it was an Indian who started the thread you moron.

Who the hell are you to tell us how to run our country.

Now shoo.

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .


Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

Had it been another minority like a Christian or a Hindu, the majority of Pakistan would not have minded.

But Ahmadis are are completely different matter. Those are people who think they are Muslims when they are not.
The vast majority of Pakistanis who are Muslims know Ahmadis are heretics.

Why should an Ahmadi/heretic have such a position when he contradicting the majority's views.


I am no threat to Pakistan, you moron.

You give up, because you cannot counter my arguments.

That is why you run away to other biased forums to hide your agenda.

Whatever good riddance to Indiots. Get lost.

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .


Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

You are stupid. I never said an Ahmadi cannot be a citizen of Pakistan. But Ahmadis cannot claim to be Muslims.

We have gone through this so many times.

So ahmedi are not from Pakistan now.i would have ****** your argument to ***"* if I had been on other forum or social media .
Minority was not ruling you,he was just a member of advisory group among many .
Morons like you are a threat to Pakistan

No one is debating that ,I asked will a Islamic standard or a secular standard treat every one equally .


Sorry bro the moron brought India in ,I quit this thread ,I cannot put sense into an idiot.i give up

Post reported for trolling. @waz @The Eagle @Horus

 

[RaGotimaar]

In 1974 Ahmadis were declared non-Muslims constitutionally.


Someone who believes in the Orthodoxy, the agreed upon core principles that Islam states.

Anyone who deviates from the set upon beliefs of Islam cannot be a Muslim.

The Ahmadis do not believe Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the final messenger of God, hence Ahmadis are not Muslims.


But Ahmadis are not Muslims. They falsely think to be Muslims, and then believe that the mainstream Muslim community are not Muslims.

Ahmadis are hypocrites.


Fine fair enough. But don't act as if the BJP does not discriminate against Muslims.

Even Narendra Modi has said things against Muslims.

Muslim not muslim, Ahmadi not Ahmadi Sunni or Shia or Sufi none of them deserve to be discriminated against only on the basis of their faith. Imagine you going out of your country and being discriminated against only cos of your religion. Would it be right then?

Because Pakistan is not secular. Duhhh.

Learn to accept that there are different models of governments and that no one type of government works for all nations.

Democracy certainly hasn't worked for Pakistan. Not when minorities are discriminated against at a state level