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China's Consumers Haven't Been This Confident in Two Decades
Wages are rising, growth is robust and the yuan is on a tear

Bloomberg News
2017年9月12日 GMT+8 上午5:00
With things looking up across China’s economic dashboard, sentiment among consumers and households is the strongest in more than two decades.

The consumer confidence index climbed to 114.6 in July. That’s up from last May, when it dipped below 100, the line separating optimism and pessimism.

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“The strong job market and the associated robust income growth have supported consumer confidence,” said Robin Xing, the chief China economist at Morgan Stanley in Hong Kong. "Consumer confidence is further driven by the unleashed consumption potential in lower-tier cities," he said, citing their faster income growth, supportive government policies, infrastructure investment, and more affordable housing markets that make residents more willing to spend.

The strength of the world’s second-largest economy has surprised forecasters, with GDP growth accelerating to 6.9% in the first 2 quarters this year. Per capita disposable income rose 7.3 percent on year in the first half, statistics bureau data show. The yuan has been on a tear, posting the best performance in Asia over the past three months.

Meanwhile, a private consumer confidence index, compiled by Nielsen Holdings Plc, climbed to 112 in the second quarter, the best reading since at least 2009. A component tracking willingness to spend also climbed to a fresh high, while readings for job prospects and personal finances also increased.
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The strength comes in part from local economic policies aimed at boosting less-developed regions as well as other reforms, and it suggests the overall economy will continue performing well, according to Vishal Bali, a managing director of Nielsen China in Shanghai. Consumers in larger cities tend to spend more on better food and beverages, while those in smaller ones are willing to spend more on better daily necessities, Nielsen’s survey found.

“Chinese consumers are becoming more willing to spend,” Bali said in a statement released along with the latest data. As “fast-pace economic growth offers more job opportunities to local residents, the development of China's rural areas and lower-tier cities will become a new driver for the country's future economic growth.”
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Compared to the middle class in the US, Chinese middle class seem to have more money to spend on non-essentials like eating out, extracurricular classes for kids, luxury items, overseas trips etc. In the meantime, more than 60% Americans can't even come up with $2000 for emergency. A phenomenon that can't be explained with per capital GDP figures of these two countries
 
Compared to the middle class in the US, Chinese middle class seem to have more money to spend on non-essentials like eating out, extracurricular classes for kids, luxury items, overseas trips etc. In the meantime, more than 60% Americans can't even come up with $2000 for emergency. A phenomenon that can't be explained with per capital GDP figures of these two countries

One does not dare think about needing hospital aid, US medical fees :o:
 
Compared to the middle class in the US, Chinese middle class seem to have more money to spend on non-essentials like eating out, extracurricular classes for kids, luxury items, overseas trips etc. In the meantime, more than 60% Americans can't even come up with $2000 for emergency. A phenomenon that can't be explained with per capital GDP figures of these two countries

Spending vs. saving.
 
Compared to the middle class in the US, Chinese middle class seem to have more money to spend on non-essentials like eating out, extracurricular classes for kids, luxury items, overseas trips etc. In the meantime, more than 60% Americans can't even come up with $2000 for emergency. A phenomenon that can't be explained with per capital GDP figures of these two countries
99% of the American wealth are owned by 1% with the 99% fighting for the remaining 1%.
 
Well, you need to have something extra to save in the first place. Too many people here are living on paycheck by paycheck. The mean income has been staying the same since 1998.

Yes but....

There is a demonstrated penchant among Asians, that includes south Asians, you may be faintly displeased to hear, to save except when they go down to subsistence levels. And there is the opposite, a habit of spending far more than they can afford, among, for instance, Americans. This is according to published studies by bankers and economic analysts that I have read from time to time.

I should imagine that these qualities of thrift and looking for value for money must be strongly engrained among the Chinese.
 
Lots of supah powah china threads nowadays ?
Are chinese feeling insecure and feel the need to convince the world ?
Or are the threads a attempt by the chinese to save face after the doklam humiliation ?

Look slumdog, if you keep this up the humiliation will only increase 100 times when the road is gonna be completed. I suggest you read the article i posted early on. You will see enlightenment afterwards and thank me for it.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what...lam-border-dispute.515882/page-5#post-9840795
 
Yes but....

There is a demonstrated penchant among Asians, that includes south Asians, you may be faintly displeased to hear, to save except when they go down to subsistence levels. And there is the opposite, a habit of spending far more than they can afford, among, for instance, Americans. This is according to published studies by bankers and economic analysts that I have read from time to time.

I should imagine that these qualities of thrift and looking for value for money must be strongly engrained among the Chinese.


Agree, that's why I was wondering why Chinese middle class seem to be so much better off. Everyone I know back home seem to pay off new cars with cash and take overseas trips regularly. This GDP thingy just doesn't seem to show the reality.
 
Agree, that's why I was wondering why Chinese middle class seem to be so much better off. Everyone I know back home seem to pay off new cars with cash and take overseas trips regularly. This GDP thingy just doesn't seem to show the reality.

Completely agree; GDP doesn't bring in cultural factors. That is where we find that approximations are more useful than spot predictions; spot predictions simply do not factor in these cultural factors.
 
Wait until Gordon Chang publishes the new edition of its China collapse book.


Time for Western economists/observers to introspect what went wrong with their prediction model about China. China just defies the "common knowledge" of the western world. :partay:
 
Compared to the middle class in the US, Chinese middle class seem to have more money to spend on non-essentials like eating out, extracurricular classes for kids, luxury items, overseas trips etc. In the meantime, more than 60% Americans can't even come up with $2000 for emergency. A phenomenon that can't be explained with per capital GDP figures of these two countries
Labor cost is too high. Your life will be ruined in a high labor cost society. You have to do everything by yourself as long as you can. And pay a lot to every service. The cooperations between each other is literally shrinking. As a result, the welfare is naturally corroded. Workers in the western society are spoiled. Sometimes human right itself is the biggest threat to the human right.
 
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