China using Nepal study centres for spying

[aimarraul]

China using Nepal study centres for spying?
1 Oct 2009, 1242 hrs IST, Sachin Parashar, TNN

NEW DELHI: Incursions by the Chinese army into Indian territory may have dominated news space in the past few months but India's external
intelligence agency RAW has warned that a more serious issue at hand is the mushrooming of rather innocuously named Nepal-China study centres in Nepal which are being used by the Chinese to spy on India.

Highly placed officials in the government revealed that RAW has conveyed to the government that these study centres, which are located all along the Indo-Nepal border, are being used to clandestinely gather information on Indian activities. Sources said the agency has identified 24 such centres, most of which are located in close proximity to Nepal's border with India.

It is not just these study centres in Nepal which have left Indian agencies racking their brains. Sources revealed that RAW is monitoring around 30 Chinese firms which have set up base in Nepal and may be involved in spying on India.

Sources said most of these firms were headed by former PLA officers making it almost mandatory for India to keep an eye on their activities. They cited example of some construction and telecom companies which are active in Nepal and their operations are headed by retired Chinese army officers.

According to Indian officials, the speed at which the study centres have come up in the past few years is a manifestation of the way in which China has tried to increase its influence in Nepal. Beijing has been offering military and financial assistance to Nepal and its envoy in Nepal Quo Guohang said last month that if Nepal faces threats to its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, China would help it not only militarily but also financially and diplomatically.

"RAW is aware of the situation. These centres are mostly located close to Nepal's open border with India. There is an understanding developing within the government that if this continues, the issue will have to be taken up diplomatically with Nepal," said a senior security official. These study centres are mostly headed by Chinese and are supposed to provide an insight into Chinese customs, language and economic development.

China has gone out of its way to present itself before Nepal as an alternative to India in the past two years and has promoted multi-level interactions with Nepal and its people. Beijing is constructing a highway connecting Lhasa to Kathmandu at a cost of over $100 million. The two countries are seeing enhanced military cooperation. In September 2008, China announced a $1.3 million military aid package for Nepal and three months later PLA promised another $2.6 million for the same purpose.

 

[navtrek]

China using Nepal study centres for spying?
1 Oct 2009, 1242 hrs IST, Sachin Parashar, TNN

NEW DELHI: Incursions by the Chinese army into Indian territory may have dominated news space in the past few months but India's external
intelligence agency RAW has warned that a more serious issue at hand is the mushrooming of rather innocuously named Nepal-China study centres in Nepal which are being used by the Chinese to spy on India.

Highly placed officials in the government revealed that RAW has conveyed to the government that these study centres, which are located all along the Indo-Nepal border, are being used to clandestinely gather information on Indian activities. Sources said the agency has identified 24 such centres, most of which are located in close proximity to Nepal's border with India.

It is not just these study centres in Nepal which have left Indian agencies racking their brains. Sources revealed that RAW is monitoring around 30 Chinese firms which have set up base in Nepal and may be involved in spying on India.

Sources said most of these firms were headed by former PLA officers making it almost mandatory for India to keep an eye on their activities. They cited example of some construction and telecom companies which are active in Nepal and their operations are headed by retired Chinese army officers.

According to Indian officials, the speed at which the study centres have come up in the past few years is a manifestation of the way in which China has tried to increase its influence in Nepal. Beijing has been offering military and financial assistance to Nepal and its envoy in Nepal Quo Guohang said last month that if Nepal faces threats to its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, China would help it not only militarily but also financially and diplomatically.

"RAW is aware of the situation. These centres are mostly located close to Nepal's open border with India. There is an understanding developing within the government that if this continues, the issue will have to be taken up diplomatically with Nepal," said a senior security official. These study centres are mostly headed by Chinese and are supposed to provide an insight into Chinese customs, language and economic development.

China has gone out of its way to present itself before Nepal as an alternative to India in the past two years and has promoted multi-level interactions with Nepal and its people. Beijing is constructing a highway connecting Lhasa to Kathmandu at a cost of over $100 million. The two countries are seeing enhanced military cooperation. In September 2008, China announced a $1.3 million military aid package for Nepal and three months later PLA promised another $2.6 million for the same purpose.

hi dude why can't this be true just as our national security is a priority
for us, Ur security is a priority for Chinese. so it is logical for china to monitor our activities.

so what is crazy about this ?

Believe me just like 1962 where ur govt thought of our forward policy as war but on our side it was just a strategy to cut the supply of your troops so that they return back.

I agree it was too aggressive a policy for an ill equipped army to do. but i guess people of those days got to carried away with "hindi-chini bhai-bhai" & assumed that there can be no war btw India & china

so coming back to topic. lets leave the past. So as in 1962 china still doubts our intention toward u guys. lack of trust and its always good to know abt a nation perceived as a threat. avioids misunderstanding in the first place so another war.

 

[aimarraul]

I agree it was too aggressive a policy for an ill equipped army to do. but i guess people of those days got to carried away with "hindi-chini bhai-bhai" & assumed that there can be no war btw India & china

诱敌深入 ，after pushing your forward policy for more than 3 years,indians assumed there would be no war?and indians believed your enemy's words in the battlefield .

it's not just "hindi-chini bhai-bhai" ,you forgot the 8 PLA: 1 IA illusion，i guess there must be thousands of miles of highway and railway in tibet at that time

 

[shchinese]

we should just declare war on india and get them more civilized.

such weekly reports are getting me more and more convinced that india is the neo-nazi of asia.

 

[navtrek]

we should just declare war on india and get them more civilized.

such weekly reports are getting me more and more convinced that india is the neo-nazi of asia.

Try an all out war can u please make us more civilized we are know for being barbarians

ha ha we as Neo-nazi's of asia "China the saviour of asian countries from the Indian neo-nazis". Dude

chill man why so attached to the word neo-nazi's ?

 

[navtrek]

we should just declare war on india and get them more civilized.

such weekly reports are getting me more and more convinced that india is the neo-nazi of asia.

and indians believed your enemy's words in the battlefield

You just answered your question yourself, This is why there are so many reports like the one u have posted

We believed u once but now we have learnt from our mistakes

so you still want to call us neo-nazi my friend ?

 

[navtrek]

Dude answer this simple question why can't china use these centers for spying ?

please do give a justified answer coz u are civilized and i am not remember the previous post. So expecting a civilized discussion not only on this thread but in the forum

 

[shchinese]

Dude answer this simple question why can't china use these centers for spying ?

please do give a justified answer coz u are civilized and i am not remember the previous post. So expecting a civilized discussion not only on this thread but in the forum

because there is nothing to gain.

your whole country is a dump site. your politicans are stupid, your people are lazy, you don't have a real industry base to produce any "threat".

 

[navtrek]

because there is nothing to gain.

your whole country is a dump site. your politicans are stupid, your people are lazy, you don't have a real industry base to produce any "threat".

See compare my post to yours and you will find the true meaning of civilized

lets not get deviated by my previous statement,now back to the topic
Why do you feel so ? elaborate on your statement & justify why

We might not have a real industry base now but we will do have it in the future rite.

 

[navtrek]

This is a post to justify that there is a developing industrial base
We might not be as good as you in engineering but even we know some little thing

Prithvi missile

It might not reach your capital or anywhere near it but it is a success. We have gained knowledge and experience rite & also established a industrial infrastructure for future work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prithvi_(missile)#Development_and_History

Nag anti-tank missiles:



The Indian Army has placed an order of 443 Nag missiles and 13 Namicas for introduction in the next 3 years.Nag will be the first weapon of such kind that will be inducted into the army by November-December of 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Missile

Akash SAM:

The Indian Air force was satisfied with the performance of Akash after extensive flight trials and has decided to induct the weapon system. Orders for two squadrons have been placed. This is the first order of an indigenous tactical missile by the Indian Armed Forces.

This system is claimed to be more accurate than the MIM-104 Patriot as it has thrust during the entire course of its flight compared to the Patriot that has thrust only for the first 12 seconds, after which the missile coasts, thus making it less accurate. Apart from that the Akash can be launched from static or mobile platforms, including a battle tank.

Brahmos cruise missile:

Indo-Russian joint venture tested and inducted in the army & so on ....

Agni I and Agni II

these are tried and tested systems even though they cannot reach Beijing

 

[navtrek]

because there is nothing to gain.

your whole country is a dump site. your politicans are stupid, your people are lazy, you don't have a real industry base to produce any "threat".

My previous post was to show that we do have a industial base to generate a threat rite now tell me

Do you still think china is not interested in spying ?

 

[navtrek]

For your reference i have only mentioned tried, Tested and working systems.

.i.e. i have not mentioned abt Arjun,LCA Tejas,Trisul,or any system which is still under testing or which have failed even though "these failure's are the stepping stones of success"

these have provided us with the Know how of the technology involved & establishment of industrial base.

 

[grey boy 2]

My previous post was to show that we do have a industial base to generate a threat rite now tell me

Do you still think china is not interested in spying ?

Buddy; you seems to be a resonable person as i read your post.

Very simple answer to this thread= Almost every country spying on

each other, nothing new. So lets move on.

 

[navtrek]

ALH (Advanced light helicopter)

The Dhruv has become the first major Indian weapons system to have secured large foreign sales. HAL hopes to sell 120 Dhruvs over the next eight years.

India's space capabilities

More information read this
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/4373-indian-space-capabilities.html

 

[navtrek]

Buddy; you seems to be a resonable person as i read your post.

Very simple answer to this thread= Almost every country spying on

each other, nothing new. So lets move on.

hi thanks man i just expected some respect from this Shchinese guy towards my country, So am trying to earn it by just letting him know some facts

which he knows but still acts as if he doesn't.