China: transformation into invincibility or weakling

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Right, let's compare modern high-tech China to Japanese military technology from 1943.

You're an idiot.

Modern sensors and GPS-guided/laser-guided bombs on drones have revolutionized warfare.

Battalions of Chinese soldiers with body armor and night-vision goggles will mow down low-tech Myanmarese like sheep.

And you are delusional or with limited knowledge on insurgencies or challenges to modern militaries or asymmetric warfare.

Strangely low tech Taliban with Ak-47s and IEDs have managed to sustain an insurgency against the most technological advanced military on the planet currently

 

[Martian2]

And you are delusional or with limited knowledge on insurgencies

Strangely low tech Taliban with Ak-47s and IEDs have managed to sustain an insurgency against the most technological advanced military on the planet currently

Are you kidding me?

You are claiming to be unaware of US Rules of Engagement?

China has no such rules. You don't need headquarters to give a Chinese soldier permission to fire. In Chinese subway stations the police and soldiers have the right to open fire on any person (most likely Uighur) holding a knife.

How are you going to plant an IED with drones watching in the sky?

China will bomb you to hell and ask questions later.

The US does things backwards. The US wants indisputable proof that it's a bomb. China does not have such silly rules of engagement. Bomb first and investigate afterwards.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

serious discussion? ok, how do you want China do that? China will need to declare war against Burma and N. Korea. then second, China will need to win the two front war. you think China peaceful rise is over?

Not to forget the war with North Korea will go nuclear.

 

[Martian2]

Not to forget the war with North Korea will go nuclear.

Another stupid comment.

The US had Nike Hercules nuclear-tipped anti-missile missiles in the 1960s. China most likely has their own versions of Nike Hercules anti-missile missiles. No nukes will fall on China unless it is a full nuclear exchange between the US and China.

In a conventional war, China wins hands down.

 

[Viet]

Did you bother reading any of my previous posts? I've already answered both questions.

1. China waits for another country to start a new Korean war. After the belligerents are exhausted from fighting, China moves in at the end with 100,000 well-equipped troops. China can move in another million soldiers if necessary. North Korea has been annexed.

2. China waits for the US to fire the first shot in the South China Sea. Pointing to numerous US military and think tank pronouncements about choking off China's shipping at the Malacca Strait, China invokes self-defense and annexes Myanmar. By establishing new Chinese ports on Myanmar's coast, China will not face the danger of a US-controlled Malacca Strait.

This is the third time I've made these points.

Either you (EastWind) read my previous posts or stop trolling my thread.

So why waiting for someone that fires the first bullet? How about you stage a show, for example, you dress a PLA man with US cowboy hat with a Winchester gun, voila, the cowboy shoots an unarmed innocent Chinese sailor on a innocent boat. a perfect pretext for a war.

The question is can China win a two front war? And what happens if China loses the war?

You should think of consequences in case if shit happens. North Korea can take a part of China as booty. What then?

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

Your opinion sounds like bullshit to me.

NATO carved Kosovo out of Serbia.

Israel annexes more of the West Bank every day.

Russia annexed a big chunk of Georgia. Russia annexed Crimea. Russia has de facto annexed two provinces in east Ukraine. What US response?

Even if there is a US response, let's see who wins a land battle in Asia against China's two million man army.

The only way to assert sovereignty is through military power. China has demonstrated this timeless military truth in the South China Sea. Chinese naval power and militarized islands are cementing China's sovereignty and control of the South China Sea.

Now, I'm suggesting China deploy its army during opportune moments to assert its military power on land.

you sound retarded for favoring solving issues via stark brawn,your style of doing things is the complete opposite of china's style I'm familiar with,maybe being born and.raised in usa has dimished your iq and made you a short sighted species just like most yankie politicians on the hill,or most probably you are a paid yankie disguised as chinese trying to churn out lame ideas to lure china into a pit,your bellicose,narrow mnded propisitions remind me of a bespectacled american punk-look moron on youtube who spews out ridiculous craps everyday

 

[Martian2]

you sound retarded for favoring solving issues via stark brawn,your style of doing things is the complete opposite of china's style I'm familiar with,maybe being born and.raised in usa has dimished your iq and made you a short sighted species just like most yankie politicians on the hill,or most probably you are a paid yankie disguised as chinese trying to churn out lame ideas to lure china into a pit,your bellicose,narrow mnded propisitions remind me of a bespectacled american punk-look moron on youtube who spews out ridiculous craps everyday

You're an idiot.

China has built artificial islands in the South China Sea for new missiles, radars, and fighter jets.

What do we call that? Military Brawn.
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U.S. BLASTS BEIJING FOR “PROVOCATIVE MILITARIZATION” OF DISPUTED SOUTH CHINA SEA | Newsweek (January 9, 2018)

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

You're an idiot.

China has built artificial islands in the South China Sea for new missiles, radars, and fighter jets.

What do we call that? Military Brawn.
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U.S. BLASTS BEIJING FOR “PROVOCATIVE MILITARIZATION” OF DISPUTED SOUTH CHINA SEA | Newsweek (January 9, 2018)

you are an imbecile who can't differentiate strategic necessities and being flatout brash,weaponizing some artificial islands is light years more tactful than careening into outright wars with 2 sovereign countries for the purpose of occupying them in the end

the self-diminishing ideas you just proposed reeking of western short -sighted mentalies proves that you are NOT eligible and compatible to be on our side,go be a cynical brute somewhere else instead of churning out your unsolicited advices at us

 

[Martian2]

you are an imbecile who can't differentiate strategic necessities and being flatout brash,weaponizing some artificial islands is light years more tactful than careening into outright wars with 2 sovereign countries for the purpose of occupying them in the end

the self-diminishing ideas you just proposed reeking of western short -sighted mentalies proves that you are NOT eligible and compatible to be on our side,go be a cynical brute somewhere else instead of churning out your unsolicited advices at us

Lying does not enhance your credibility.

China uses military power to advance its foreign policy. I don't see the passive tree-hugging nation that you said China is.

Other nations also claim the South China Sea.

So, which is it?

Does China use military power to settle disputes with other nations or doesn't it?

I see a lot of military brawn. Don't you?

Want me to post a picture of Chinese missile batteries on a South China Sea to further prove my point?
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Since China uses its Air Force and Navy to settle its South China Sea territorial disputes, it is only logical for China to use its Army to settle its disputes with Japan and India by annexing North Korea and Myanmar.

My proposal is logical and straightforward.

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

Lying does not enhance your credibility.

China uses military power to advance its foreign policy. I don't see the passive tree-hugging nation that you said China is.

Other nations also claim the South China Sea.

So, which is it?

Does China use military power to settle disputes with other nations or doesn't it?

I see a lot of military brawn. Don't you?

Want me to post a picture of Chinese missile batteries on a South China Sea to further prove my point?

being stupidly aggressive doesn't lend credence to you either


using a possible conflict in the south china sea as an pretext or excuse to detonate an outright invasion on myanmar is what only moron might think of

go learn some mandarin and try to have a deep understanding of the saying "饭得一口一口的吃"


your arbitrary proposition can only be the doomer for all the accomplishments China built painstakingly in the past four decades,I don't wanna that crumbles overnight becoz of some extreme advices some franatics like you give

 

[Martian2]

being stupidly aggressive doesn't lend credence to you either


using a possible conflict in the south china sea as an pretext or excuse to detonate an outright invasion on myanmar is what only moron might think of

go learn some mandarin and try to have a deep understanding of the saying "饭得一口一口的吃"


your arbitrary proposition can only be the doomer for all the accomplishments China built painstakingly in the past four decades,I don't wanna that crumbles overnight becoz of some extreme advices some franatics like you give

No one cares about your attempt to split hairs.

Since China is using military force to advance its territorial claims, it is quite possible that China will use land-based military force to annex North Korea and Myanmar to enable the reclamation of the Daioyu Islands and South Tibet.

It is obvious to everyone that military power is a cornerstone of Chinese foreign policy.

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

Lying does not enhance your credibility.

China uses military power to advance its foreign policy. I don't see the passive tree-hugging nation that you said China is.

Other nations also claim the South China Sea.

So, which is it?

Does China use military power to settle disputes with other nations or doesn't it?

I see a lot of military brawn. Don't you?

Want me to post a picture of Chinese missile batteries on a South China Sea to further prove my point?
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Since China uses its Air Force and Navy to settle its South China Sea territorial disputes, it is only logical for China to use its Army to settle its disputes with Japan and India by annexing North Korea and Myanmar.

My proposal is logical and straightforward.

No one cares about your attempt to split hairs.

Since China is using military force to advance its territorial claims, it is quite possible that China will use land-based military force to annex North Korea and Myanmar to enable the reclamation of the Daioyu Islands and South Tibet.

It is obvious to everyone that military power is a cornerstone of Chinese foreign policy.

as if who gives a crap to what you are blurting out

look,defending the south china sea is justified and supported strongly by all the chinese is because the south china sea is historically always a part of china,it is worthy to defend it tooths and nails,but invading others ain't our style,if we did that,the vibe would be diffetent,that vibe runs afoul of how we do things,got it?

 

[Martian2]

as if who gives a crap to what you are blurting out

look,defending the south china sea is justified and supported strongly by all the chinese is because the south china sea is historically always a part of china,it is worthy to defend it tooths and nails,but invading others ain't our style,if we did that,the vibe would be diffetent,that vibe runs afoul of how we do things,got it?

It's my thread. If you don't like it then leave.

My suggestion is very simple. Chinese military power is used to advance Chinese territorial claims.

China has other territorial claims. We should expect China to use its military power to assert those claims as well.
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You claim the South China Sea has always been historically Chinese. The Hague and other nations do not agree. Thus, history is irrelevant to the use of Chinese military power.

No one cares about China's version of history regarding the South China Sea. Singapore agrees with the West and claims the South China Sea does not belong to China.

However, everyone cares about Chinese military power in the South China Sea.

The DETERMINING FACTOR is MILITARY POWER, not China's version of history.

Hence, we should expect to see more Chinese military power to assert other Chinese territorial claims. Annexing Myanmar and North Korea are military necessities. Otherwise, it will be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to fight India and Japan.

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

It's my thread. If you don't like it then leave.

My suggestion is very simple. Chinese military power is used to advance Chinese territorial claims.

China has other territorial claims. We should expect China to use its military power to assert those claims as well.
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You claim the South China Sea has always been historically Chinese. The Hague and other nations do not agree. Thus, history is irrelevant to the use of Chinese military power.

No one cares about China's version of history regarding the South China Sea.

However, everyone cares about Chinese military power in the South China Sea.

The DETERMINING FACTOR is MILITARY POWER, not China's version of history.

Hence, we should expect to see more Chinese military power to assert other Chinese territorial claims. Annexing Myanmar and North Korea are military necessities. Otherwise, it will be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to fight India and Japan.

you are giving advices to chna while your advices are quite americanized and westernized which is puerile and hilarious,keep bloviating,no chinese is gonna heed

 

[Martian2]

Two thousand years ago, this was the map of China (see below in brown color).

How did we get to modern China's borders? Someone said "let's make China bigger."

Ma Zedong sent the army into Xinjiang in 1949. Today, the United States formally recognizes Xinjiang as a part of China.

Mao Zedong sent the army into Tibet in 1950. The United States did not formally recognize Tibet as part of China until a 1966 State Department publication.

So, how did Tibet become a part of China?

Step 1: Send in your army to conquer the territory.
Step 2: Hold on to it for one to two decades.
Step 3: Other countries will recognize your territorial claim.

What does that tell us? All modern borders have been shaped by wars.
How does China go about annexing Myanmar and North Korea? By war of course. The same way that it has been done for thousands of years.