China Signs Secret Deal for Naval Outpost in Cambodia, WSJ Says

[Viet]

The joke is on your brother. You underestimating a country that is MUCH richer and much stronger than you will only put your country in deep trouble. If Vietnam enters a conflict with China, you guys will go back at least 20 years. Dont play with giant when you are ant. Smaller countries must learn to work with or/and strategically work around regional hegemons. If US can barely contain China today then how can Vietnam even come close to fighting China with a good chance of not losing?

So any country with more money and more weapons wins?

What logic is that?

A logic of a terrorist!

 

[925boy]

Then give me a reason why should I reply ur 5cent comment instead of puting u on my ignore list ??

you can ignore me, but you cant ignore the truth. Sooner or later, CHina will put you guys in your place if your behavior has popular support in your country. just wait and see.

Why should I talk abt CN wt non Cnese member who actually cant even find a good job in real life ??U think u know more abt CN than all Cnese members here??

not being Chinese does not mean you dont know anything about CHina or Asia issues. i have a very good job fyi. lol. with a comment like that i hope you make $150K/year of above, if not you are super-hypocrite hater.

You have problem with logic.

So any country with more money and more weapons wins?

Yes, especially when the order of magnitude is 5X or more.

What logic is that?

Logic of numbers. What logic are you using to assume small Vietnam can beat big and rich China?

A logic of a terrorist!

u sound hurt, is it because the truth that you cant beat China hurts you?

So any country with more money and more weapons wins?

What logic is that?

A logic of a terrorist!

@waz @Dubious this VIetnamese person indirectly called me a terrorist. please see what you can do.

 

[Viva_Viet]

you can ignore me, but you cant ignore the truth. Sooner or later, CHina will put you guys in your place if your behavior has popular support in your country. just wait and see.


not being Chinese does not mean you dont know anything about CHina or Asia issues. i have a very good job fyi. lol. with a comment like that i hope you make $150K/year of above, if not you are super-hypocrite hater.

You have problem with logic.


Yes, especially when the order of magnitude is 5X or more.


Logic of numbers. What logic are you using to assume small Vietnam can beat big and rich China?


u sound hurt, is it because the truth that you cant beat China hurts you?


@waz @Dubious this VIetnamese person indirectly called me a terrorist. please see what you can do.

If u can check my ignore list, u will see many none Cnese memebers r on my ignore list cos they talk too much abt CN while they cant even speak and write Cnese .

Okay, then u on my ignore list too cos u guys will keep making trouble and try to let us fall into violating forum rules.

@Viet see, stop talking abt CN wt none Cnese member, they only try to make u get ban

 

[925boy]

If u can check my ignore list, u will see many none Cnese memebers r on my ignore list cos they talk too much abt CN while they cant even speak and write Cnese .

interesting you spend everyday arguing with CHinese and you dont put them on your ignore list? you are using very weird logic.
Not being able to speak chinese =/= you have invalid opinion on Asian affairs. stop using fallacies to make your argument stronger or to block other peoples good arguments.

Okay, then u on my ignore list too cos u guys will keep making trouble and try to let us fall into violating forum rules.

Considering how stubborn you are and how oppositional logic is your forte, this might make the best sense. You definitely cannot argue properly so things like "add you to my ignore list" is just a tactic to avoid arguments that you cant counter.

@Viet see, stop talking abt CN wt none Cnese member, they only try to make u get ban

Well when you call someone's logic terrorist because you cant counter it you should DEFINITELY get a ban. cheers.

 

[Dubious]

So any country with more money and more weapons wins?

What logic is that?

A logic of a terrorist!

That is an illogical deduction!

Please try again and abstain from abusing any other country/ nationality!

 

[Viet]

That is an illogical deduction!

Please try again and abstain from abusing any other country/ nationality!

I said he argues like a terrorist. I didn’t say he is a terrorist. There is a difference.

I didn’t name any country nor nationality.

 

[bolo]

If u can check my ignore list, u will see many none Cnese memebers r on my ignore list cos they talk too much abt CN while they cant even speak and write Cnese .

You also talk alot about China but cannot speak , read or write Chinese.

 

[Dubious]

I said he argues like a terrorist. I didn’t say he is a terrorist. There is a difference.

I didn’t name any country nor nationality.

Ok, sorry my bad... abstain from insulting other members

 

[Viet]

Ok, sorry my bad... abstain from insulting other members

Ok no problem

You shall advise the poster to stop using aggressive language. Here a quite from his comments:

“Dont play with giant when you are ant.”

Can we use that language to threaten our neighbors from Laos, Cambodia, Malay, Thailand to Myanmar?

We are not living in a jungle where the strongest takes everything.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You forget the armada of heavily armed Molniya missile ships,
Vietnam builds in license.

China can build the Type 055 in a faster rate than you build these junks, no contest.

 

[vi-va]

you can ignore me, but you cant ignore the truth. Sooner or later, CHina will put you guys in your place if your behavior has popular support in your country. just wait and see.


not being Chinese does not mean you dont know anything about CHina or Asia issues. i have a very good job fyi. lol. with a comment like that i hope you make $150K/year of above, if not you are super-hypocrite hater.

You have problem with logic.


Yes, especially when the order of magnitude is 5X or more.


Logic of numbers. What logic are you using to assume small Vietnam can beat big and rich China?


u sound hurt, is it because the truth that you cant beat China hurts you?


@waz @Dubious this VIetnamese person indirectly called me a terrorist. please see what you can do.

@925boy, hey, you knew those guys. They bad mouth everywhere without basic logic. Even when you put the proof on the table, they will selectively ignore.

It's just waste of time on those without rational mindset.

When you talk with them about geopolitics and power, they brag their 500 ton warship as if it's comparable with USS Ticonderoga or Chinese Type 055 destroyer. Just ignore them or report those troll.

You forget the armada of heavily armed Molniya missile ships,
Vietnam builds in license.

 

[riscol]

If Vietnamese Navy is that strong and capable of crippling the Chinese Navy, how come nobody on this world are writing anything about the Vietnamese Navy? Because there's nothing to write. I think this proofs my point about the ranking of the Vietnamese Naval force. I have not seen any other country building warships that many that fast other than China. I think these Vietnamese members know it too but nevertheless pretending to act how tough their Navy is. This is very sad to be honest seeing them spamming the forum endlessly while the moderators are allowing them to continue their insult towards the Chinese military. It drags down the quality of discussion, unsurprisingly affecting how others perceiving the couple of Vietnamese wrecking their own image on a global scale.

 

[vi-va]

If Vietnamese Navy is that strong and capable of crippling the Chinese Navy, how come nobody on this world are writing anything about the Vietnamese Navy? Because there's nothing to write. I think this proofs my point about the ranking of the Vietnamese Naval force. I have not seen any other country building warships that many that fast other than China. I think these Vietnamese members know it too but nevertheless pretending to act how tough their Navy is. This is very sad to be honest seeing them spamming the forum endlessly while the moderators are allowing them to continue their insult towards the Chinese military. It drags down the quality of discussion, unsurprisingly affecting how others perceiving the couple of Vietnamese wrecking their own image on a global scale.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...shipbuilder-for-1-million-graft-idUSKCN1TE0NP

HANOI (Reuters) - Vietnam has jailed four former heads of state-owned shipbuilder Vinashin for terms of up to 17 years over abuse of power and embezzlement, state media said on Thursday, as the Southeast Asian nation cracks down on graft.

Vinashin’s former chief accountant, Tran Duc Chinh, was handed a 17-year jail sentence by the Hanoi People’s Court on Wednesday, the official Vietnam News Agency (VNA) said.

Former chairman Nguyen Ngoc Su received a 13-year term and a former director and a former deputy director of the company received sentences of seven and six years each, it added.

All four former executives were penalized for “abusing their positions and power to appropriate assets” at the company, the agency said.

Several of Vietnam’s high-ranking ministers and politicians, including one Politburo member and a string of police officers, have all received prison sentences in the crackdown on charges ranging from embezzlement to economic mismanagement.

Some government critics say the crackdown, which began under the leadership of ruling Communist Party chief Nguyen Phu Trong in 2016, has political motivations.

Vinashin, now known as the Shipbuilding Industry Corporation, was once a symbol of Vietnam’s postwar economic promise but became a debt-laden behemoth plagued by a corrupt leadership that siphoned off or misdirected cash into non-core investments.

It nearly collapsed in 2010 under the weight of almost $4.5 billion in debt. Nine other former executives at Vinashin were jailed in 2012.

From March 2011 to August 2014, the news agency said, former chief accountant Chinh received more than 105 billion dong ($4.5 million) in interest from large deposits Vinashin made at OceanBank, a domestic lender taken over by the central bank in 2015 after failing to pay its debts.

Chinh divided up that interest between the other three executives for use at the firm but all four were also able to pocket a combined 22.7 billion dong ($973,622.13) for personal use, the agency added.

The Hanoi People’s Court has ordered the four former executives to pay back the illegally appropriated funds, it said.

Chinh divided up that interest between the other three executives for use at the firm but all four were also able to pocket a combined 22.7 billion dong ($973,622.13) for personal use, the agency added.

The Hanoi People’s Court has ordered the four former executives to pay back the illegally appropriated funds, it said.

 

[Viva_Viet]

You also talk alot about China but cannot speak , read or write Chinese.

Yeah, but we know CN so well, that why we can defeat CN everytime u try to invade VN. Just like we know PLA generals r idiot and can not avoid our ambush when daddy US stop sending Intel in 1979 war

And poor PLA soldiers sufferred due to incompetent PLA gens

 

[Götterdämmerung]

So what is your job ?? I bet that usless guy like u only fit wt shoes shining. Deusche bank just went bankrupted. Stop lying on internet that low IQ guy like u still get a good job

You got a like from an Indian.