China, Russia block U.N. council concern about Myanmar violence (against Rohingya Muslims)

[Flynn Swagmire]

My point is i see this stuff being posted all the time. Anytime a Muslim is alleged to be mistreated , all others call for a united jihad . Let's give it a rest. If you want to help these people why don't any Muslim nation accept them?

Man, Rohingyas are getting raped and killed, and you think it is a mistreatment not crime against humanity? Good to know...

Nobody called for Jihad. It is not necessary at all. But Islamic Union is must to maintain deterrence.

Rohingyas are native to Rakhain. We want to help them to live there peacefully...

 

[武成王]

most replies of this thread are in fact off topic. The news of this thread neither disclose what britain representative put forward nor why runssia and china blocked it. i searched the internet, only got a comment from russian side: both russia and china consider human right issue should not be discussed in UN Security Council, other UN organization should handle this.

combined with news from idune:

GENEVA // Myanmar’s security forces have committed mass killings and gang rapes of Rohingya Muslims and burned their villages since October in a campaign that probably amounts to crimes against humanity and possibly ethnic cleansing, the UN human rights office said on Friday.

Witnesses had testified to "the killing of babies, toddlers, children, women and elderly; opening fire at people fleeing; burning of entire villages; massive detention; massive and systematic rape and sexual violence; deliberate destruction of food and sources of food", the report said.

One woman told UN investigators how her eight-month baby boy had had his throat slit. Another was raped by soldiers and saw her five-year-old daughter killed as she tried to stop them.


UN is already investigating this issue, it's supposed to be handled by UN human right organization, not UN security concil, russian and china block this issue on meeting of security concil, please read the news carefully, it's also very sentimental to consider runssia and china support violence to rohingyas.

 

[aryadravida_exmuslim]

If Pakistan (re)habilitate the Rohingyas in Pakistan and Myanmar itself, by bargaining for a military cooperation with Myanmar that involves discounted selling of Pak/Chinese weaponry and safe passage of Rohingyas, Pakistan will be hailed a hero.
Everyone wins.
Question is, is Pakistan up to the task?

Don't expect even the slightest humanity from the Chinese establishment. They see only money.
(That's why I think we are destined to be close friends in a few decades, at the expense of Pakistan.)

 

[waz]

if you were not "misinfomed" then why you speculating " Chinese diplomatic missions see separatism"? - which is not the real reason.
I have not said anything but pointing the fact he is arguing without knowing facts and I have done it with constrain. But I can see your motivation why you want to edit.

Speculating? China's own policy is one of non-interference.With that in mind, whose side do you think they would take? One of a state's or a minority group within it?
You have debated some points with reason but you well and truly lost your cool in the post I edited. Had you seen the same post directed at a Muslim, you would call foul.
As for my motivation, it's to keep the board clean and at peace. This is something your post would have ruined, and to cover that lapse you now question my motivation.
Good one.....

They see only money.
(That's why I think we are destined to be close friends in a few decades, at the expense of Pakistan.)

You certainly don't know the Chinese then. Have you heard of the Chinese saying that one mountain cannot contain two tigers? You are the other tiger.

 

[idune]

Speculating? China's own policy is one of non-interference.With that in mind, whose side do you think they would take? One of a state's or a minority group within it?

Isn't that obvious China took side with Myanmar genocidal regime by voting against condemnation? It must be convenient to miss that.

You have debated some points with reason but you well and truly lost your cool in the post I edited. Had you seen the same post directed at a Muslim, you would call foul.
As for my motivation, it's to keep the board clean and at peace. This is something your post would have ruined, and to cover that lapse you now question my motivation.
Good one.....

Disagreed, my post had anything that indicate loosing cool. As for your (and others for that matter) "motivation, it's to keep the board clean and at peace" - plenty of examples says otherwise.

 

[Mamluk]

If Pakistan (re)habilitate the Rohingyas in Pakistan

Are you out of your mind? Rohingya is Bangla and India's problem since 1971 - deal with it.

 

[Hrk19]

i kind of understand why russia and china did this
they(the americans) are using the rohingya's as an excuse to damage china's interests there.
and we all know what happens when americans use some issue as an excuse to make things worse.
if there are any genuine efforts to solve the rohingya issue then im sure china would also be happy to help
but right now,the ones who want to put a stop to it are doing it with other intentions.
i mean look,if most muslim countries really did care for rohingya's cause of religion then they would have taken in all of the rohingya's as that according to an islamic perspective would be the a very good deed,which is not happening.
and pakistan can only take so many and has sheltered many for so many years,someone else has to do it too.

 

[Saho]

Not surprising, Russia have a not so good histories with Muslims and have backed countless of genociders in the past and today...

 

[flamer84]

Good question. By destroying Israel. Because it is the only way of uniting Muslims
I am not speaking of Iranian people or a single nation, consider it as the voice of Islam.
Hypocrites will show themselves when the issue is Palestine and Gaza.

Arabs were muscling up against Israel, before emerging of ISIS. ISIS is currently the savior of Israel. We were arming Hezbollah, Gaza and other Arab fighters but suddenly ISIS came and Muslim countries protested against us accusing of murdering Sunni Muslims!!! @PaklovesTurkiye am i right Sunni brother?. However after 5 years of ISIS appearance, Muslims should be able to recognize the hypocrites within Muslim rows.
Anyway, i would agree with you Rohingyan Muslims didn't receive much attention from Muslim countries and it is sad. @EgyptianAmerican bro, can i count on Arab nations , not the governments , to destroy Israel?

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Imam Khamenei Slams Massacres of Muslims in Myanmar
Local Editor

Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Khamenei strongly condemned the massacre of Muslims in Myanmar, and lashed out at the US and the western states for ignoring ethnic cleansing of the Muslim minority in the Southeast Asian country.

"The obvious manifestation of the false assertions of the West on ethics and human rights is its silence over killing of thousands of people in Myanmar," Ayatollah Khamenei said on Saturday.
He strongly criticized the western civilization, and said this civilization is based on exploiting humans and materialism and is far from ethics.
Ayatollah Khamenei added that the western civilization has brought nothing but corruption and exploitation of human beings wherever it has gone in the past centuries.

"Dignity, prosperity, materialistic and spiritualistic progress, good morality and conquering the enemies all happen by practicing the Quranic teachings," he concluded.

Last Friday, Myanmar's President Thein Sein said Rohingya Muslims must be expelled from the country and sent to refugee camps run by the United Nations.
The government of Myanmar refuses to recognize Rohingyas, who it claims are not natives and classifies as illegal migrants, although the Rohingya are said to be Muslim descendants of Persian, Turkish, Bengali, and Pathan origin, who migrated to Burma as early as the 8th century.

According to recent reports, Muslims in Myanmar are in a tragic human plight. Reports say 650 of the nearly one million Rohingya Muslims have been killed as of June 28 during clashes in the western region of Rakhine. This is while 1,200 others are missing and 90,000 more have been displaced.
The UN has described Rohingya Muslim community as the Palestine of Asia and one of the most persecuted minorities in the world.

They are deprived of basic rights including education and employment and are subject to forced labor, extortion and other coercive measures.

Source: News agencies, edited by moqawama.org

Lol,el supremo mullah 'lashed out' at the West and the US,the very own entities that were actually trying to do something for Rohynwas.....but,no word from the supreme hypocrite about China and Russis protecting Burma.

 

[pts_m_h_2016]

You know what?


7. If there were to be EVER a Pan Muslim solidarity, every major country in the world, India, China, USA, Russia would unite.
Each has its own problems with sections of Muslim population.

What are the chances that all these different countries with different religions languages beliefs systems markets and levels of development could gel together when Muslims can not come together despite sharing the same religion and forming a continuous block of land from Morocco to Indonesia barring Hindus?

6. This whole rakhine separation comes from la La land.
It is not even remotely happening in any scenario.
Even were all imaginable Islamic armies to unite, they have no amphibious capability. It hardly matters even if a billion Muslims in middle east were determined to go fight myanmar, if they don't have amphibious capability.
The only way to attack would be via Bangladesh. Bangladeshs army can literally be challenged by myanmar itself, and then the fact that China will NEVER abandon myanmar against such assault.

You forgot just recently France delivered 2 LHD to Egypt, I think the first country in Muslims world who got this?

And you have civilian airplanes, Europe just started selling them to Iran. So why not if Muslims pay money upfront, Europe could do some business and sell some transport planes. They could easily airdrop multiple brigades each day, multiple divisions each week, and within three months, they could have ready multiple corps worth of military ammunition, supplies and troops ready to invade *ahem* liberate Arakan or Rakhine of Burmese territory.

China's wish simply does not matter - IF the Western world, ANY major Western power, is determined to counter it. Don't forget for all its chest puffing these backward primitive lots have yet to master the capability to build a nuclear powered aircraft carrier or to launch a submarine launched ballistic missile, same as Russia. That is why Russia asked France for assistance. These primitive lots are even unable to develop oil and gas fields off the arctic in the freezing cold, as primitive that they are.

aren't you full of yourself?

Sure, west would like to crate the narrative "Evil communists are always against Muslims" using these Chinese action. And China willingly and knowingly handed over that advantage to west. But western narrative has little weight other than heavy hands soaked with Muslim blood already.

It is no telling west is master of manipulating naive arab street and we saw nusra, ISIS and varieties of terrorist groups on western leash destroying countries and killing thousands. Not to mention, western coalition of nato responsible for killing millions of Muslims in last 25 years from Libya to Iraq to Syria to Yemen.

So, take a long hike, you are worse type, humankind burdened with.

Are you living in the West when typing this? Hypocrisy.

Take a hike? At least have the decency to leave the West before badmouthing the West.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

if most muslim countries really did care for rohingya's cause of religion then they would have taken in all of the rohingya's as that according to an islamic perspective would be the a very good deed,which is not happening.

Man, at least do some research before you speak on this sensitive topic...

 

[XDescendantX]

Burma is an averaged sized country. Surely they can find some place to put the Rohingya Muslims instead of killing them?

 

[Hrk19]

Man, at least do some research before you speak on this sensitive topic...

if they really cared from an islamic perspective then they would have taken in all of the rohingya's without any strings attached and so far only the fillipino president duterte has said that they would be willing to take rohingya's until there is no space left in the fillipines
so please dont give me that.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

if they really cared from an islamic perspective then they would have taken in all of the rohingya's without any strings attached and so far only the fillipino president duterte has said that they would be willing to take rohingya's until there is no space left in the fillipines
so please dont give me that.

Care to explain, why any country on earth should shelter Rohingyas instead of helping them to settle in their native place?

Seems like you are one of the ethnic cleansing supporter.

Philippines got big heart! Respect for them...

 

[Hrk19]

Care to explain, why any country on earth should shelter Rohingyas instead of helping them to settle in their native place?

Seems like you are one of the ethnic cleansing supporter.

Philippines got big heart! Respect for them...

i said specifically that if on RELIGIOUS grounds.
so please,if you did not understand those posts of mine then no need for you to comment