China, Russia block U.N. council concern about Myanmar violence (against Rohingya Muslims)

[t_for_talli]

Minus A-r-a-b-s...

1971, Bangladesh,

Afganistan - Pakistan

Turks and Kurds

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

1971, Bangladesh,

Afganistan - Pakistan

Turks and Kurds

Your point is?

 

[waz]

I guess some Kashmiri need same treatment as Rohingya.

You're banned and won't be coming back.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Well we cannot blame Russia and China for doing what is in their national interests.

Yes it is wrong what the Rohingyas are going through.

But what can we do. People think it is Myanmar's internal affairs.

I guess the Rohingyas should leave Myanmar if the Buddhist majority doesn't want them.

 

[Basel]

This one probably one of the actions of China/Russia I don't agree with...

Then you should post protest specially to social media accounts of Chinese Ambassador and their staff so they should know how Pakistani feel and they will not accept everything what China do.

I m occasionally posting tweets to Chinese DCM to take action against Myanmar to stop killing or clear your position.

 

[StraightShooter]

BD military is more powerful than Myanmar.
Myanmar only has an advantage in air force but the FM-90 SAM
can take care of those aircraft.

The question is Can Bangladesh take on China (and probably Russia too)?

India would stay neutral in the war between Bangladesh and Myanmar as it cannot afford to lose Myanmar completely and have it go under the influence of China.

Unless Bangladesh has support of the West, it is game over for Rohingyas.

 

[UKBengali]

The question is Can Bangladesh take on China (and probably Russia too)?

India would stay neutral in the war between Bangladesh and Myanmar as it cannot afford to lose Myanmar completely and have it go under the influence of China.

Unless Bangladesh has support of the West it is game over for Rohingyas.

China wont militarily help Myanmar.
It probably wont say anything either as well.
BD currently lacks the leadership - that is all.

 

[StraightShooter]

China wont militarily help Myanmar.
It probably wont say anything either as well.
BD currently lacks the leadership - that is all.

Incorrect.

China would do everything in its power to support Myanmar.

Myanmar provides China

1) Gas pipeline

2) Provides Naval base in Bay of Bengal

3) Gateway to Indian Ocean bypassing the vulnerable strait of Malacca

For China, Myanmar is more important than Pakistan (Gwadar) as Myanmar is closer to the population centers of China than Pakistan's Gwadar which can only connect to barren lands of East Turkestan. Freight through Myanmar would be much much inexpensive than through Gwadar.

 

[UKBengali]

Incorrect.

China would do everything in its power to support Myanmar.

Myanmar provides China

1) Gas pipeline

2) Provides Naval base in Bay of Bengal

3) Gateway to Indian Ocean bypassing the vulnerable strait of Malacca

For China, Myanmar is more important than Pakistan (Gwadar) as Myanmar is closer to the population centers of China than Pakistan's Gwadar which can only connect to barren lands of East Turkestan. Freight through Myanmar would be much much inexpensive than through Gwadar.

Yes, China would cut off links with BD for Myanmar.
BD can go with US, Japan and others if China turns unfriendly towards it.

Know what you are trying to do my Indian friend and it wont work.

Myanmar badly, badly needs China and China knows it. Not like Myanmar has much
of a choice but be friendly towards the next superpower that borders it.

China would call for peace and that is all.

 

[StraightShooter]

Yes, China would cut off links with BD for Myanmar.
BD can go with US, Japan and others if China turns unfriendly towards it.

Know what you are trying to do my Indian friend and it wont work.

Myanmar badly, badly needs China and China knows it. Not like Myanmar has much
of a choice but be friendly towards the next superpower that borders it.

China would call for peace and that is all.

What can Bangladesh provide to China that Myanmar cannot?

Myanmar is a direct neighbor of China and can provide access to Bay of Bengal.

Bangladesh on the other hand is not a direct neighbor of China and has no value.

China only cares about making some defense equipment sales to Bangladesh.

China's relations with Myanmar are strategic while its relations with Bangladesh are tactical in nature.

China needs Myanmar on its side while Bangladesh needs China not the other way around.

China can afford to lose Bangladesh but not Myanmar.

 

[UKBengali]

What can Bangladesh provide to China that Myanmar cannot?

Myanmar is a direct neighbor of China and can provide access to Bay of Bengal.

Bangladesh on the other hand is not a direct neighbor of China and has no value.

China only cares about making some defense equipment sales to Bangladesh.

China's relations with Myanmar are strategic while its relations with Bangladesh are tactical in nature.

China needs Myanmar on its side while Bangladesh needs China not the other way around.

China can afford to lose Bangladesh but not Myanmar.

Yes it is only defence sales and that is why China will provide 24 billion US dollar of low interest loans for infrastructure and has opened it's import market to BD. BD's exports to China has jumped from 150 million US dollars in 2010 to nearly 1 billion US dollars now.

PS - you do know that China provides BD defence equipment at cut-price and with soft loan?. China hardly makes profit selling defence equipment to BD.

 

[StraightShooter]

Yes it is only defence sales and that is why China will provide 24 billion US dollar of low interest loans for infrastructure and has opened it's import market to BD. BD's exports to China has jumped from 150 million US dollars in 2010 to nearly 1 billion US dollars now.

PS - you do know that China provides BD defence equipment at cut-price and with soft loan?. China hardly makes profit selling defence equipment to BD.

China accumulates so much of dollars from its exports, any rate better than US treasury is a bonus for them.

Don't mistake low interest Chinese loans as worthiness of Bangladesh to China. China does that with most of the world as their cash sitting in the banks give them no returns.

 

[UKBengali]

China accumulates so much of dollars from its exports, any rate better than US treasury is a bonus for them.

Don't mistake low interest Chinese loans as worthiness of Bangladesh to China. China does that with most of the world as their cash sitting in the banks give them no returns.

What about answering my other points dude?

 

[StraightShooter]

What about answering my other points dude?

What other points?

 

[prashantazazel]

The question is, why is Myanmar so scared of the muslims there?