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China-Pakistan water pincer against India: As part of CPEC, mega-dams are planned in Gilgit-Baltista

:crazy: If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't talk at all.

All the 'rivers' you mentioned are tributaries of the Indus, they originate from Indus and it's source in tibet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_River#Tributaries
You do realize that you can't entirely divert a massive river. :crazy: Also Tibetan glacier is not the only source of water in Indus

No you don't know about the treaty.

You can withdraw or whatever. But these dams are on River Indus and you can't do anything about River Indus.

You Indians with your empty threats are getting boring now.
Read and Enjoy:lol:
The Indus system of rivers comprises three western rivers — the Indus, the Jhelum and Chenab — and three eastern rivers — the Sutlej, the Beas and the Ravi. The treaty, under Article 5.1, envisages the sharing of waters of the rivers Ravi, Beas, Sutlej, Jhelum and Chenab which join the Indus River on its left bank (eastern side) in Pakistan. According to this treaty, Ravi, Beas and Sutlej, which constitute the eastern rivers, are allocated for exclusive use by India before they enter Pakistan.
 
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Read and Enjoy:lol:
The Indus system of rivers comprises three western rivers — the Indus, the Jhelum and Chenab — and three eastern rivers — the Sutlej, the Beas and the Ravi. The treaty, under Article 5.1, envisages the sharing of waters of the rivers Ravi, Beas, Sutlej, Jhelum and Chenab which join the Indus River on its left bank (eastern side) in Pakistan. According to this treaty, Ravi, Beas and Sutlej, which constitute the eastern rivers, are allocated for exclusive use by India before they enter Pakistan.

Beta jee I know all this and more. You have told me nothing new. :lol:

And guess what?? While youa re giving us empty threats of blocking Indus and Chenab and Jehlum, the fact is that you are unable to store and control all water of even River Ravi and Sutlej even though by IWT you are supposed to use all of its water. :rofl:

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/13558-india-releases-water-in-chenab-ravi

https://arynews.tv/en/india-releases-water-in-sutlej-river/

As I said. Cut these empty threats. As we have seen a lot of them on this forum. And let us focus on building dams. You Indians with your empty threats are getting too boring now.
 
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CPEC is a constructive and long term project. In its scope are many many things, water and irrigation management is one such aspect.

CPEC is open to the entire world, everyone who is contructive and wants to become part of this strategic success story.

All these years people have heard about Iron Brothers, now these brothers have put some titanium into there brotherhood. It is understandable that feeling the sharp end of CPEC indians are a bit edgy...


Nobody is going to do anything to IWT. Nothing!
Such things only happen on PDF, courtesy PDF resident indians.

The goal of such dambuilding goes beyond power generation... what we shall see unfold in due time is Pak becoming the breadbasket of Asia once again.

With introduction of quality and innovative farming methods...per hectare yield of the existing land will explode...and further land will be brought under agriculture. Lifestock management and export of quality beef to China is also in the pipeline.

Phase 1 will deliver by 2018.

Our indians have to accept that Pak will become net exporter of agricultural products as well. Hence, the water management.


China is making home in Pak not just to invest but to be part of Pak prosperity. Neither China nor Pak are going anywhere.

If anything their cooperation will only strengthen. Welcome to Sino-Pak Axis.

China in South Asia is a permanent feature now!


Sometimes it seems that Pak and PRC torment indian gov and people to create traffic on PDF. Naughty!
 
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Saudi arabia is planning to invest 40 billion in the Us with promise of the investment reaching 200 bil, does that make the Us a colonial outpost of saudia??:taz::chilli:
 
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So China has "thousands of troops" stationed in Gilgit? But where? Not even Chinese know that :lol:
You don't know and even Chinese don't know that they have stealth soldiers and can only visible in Indian made Radars. Indian are market leaders in those vedic technologies.
 
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China-Pakistan water pincer against India: As part of CPEC, mega-dams are planned in Gilgit-Baltistan
May 16, 2017, 2:00 AM IST Brahma Chellaney

China, which is working to re-engineer the trans-boundary flows of rivers originating in Tibet, has taken its dam-building frenzy to Pakistan-occupied Gilgit-Baltistan, which is part of Jammu & Kashmir. In a new challenge to India, which claims Gilgit-Baltistan as its own territory, China will fund and build two Indus mega-dams at a total cost of $27 billion, according to a MoU signed in Beijing during PM Nawaz Sharif’s visit. The MoU came the same day India announced its boycott of China’s OBOR summit, saying no country “can accept a project that ignores its core concerns on sovereignty and territorial integrity”.

Such is the mammoth size of the planned 7,100MW Bunji Dam and the 4,500MW Bhasha Dam that India does not have a single dam measuring even one-third of Bunji in power generating capacity. In fact, the total installed hydropower capacity in India’s part of J&K does not equal even the smaller of the two planned dams in Gilgit. Still, Pakistan disingenuously rails against India’s modest hydropower projects in J&K and has sought fresh international arbitral tribunal proceedings against India over two projects, including the tiny 330MW Kishenganga.

Even more striking is China’s hypocrisy: It bellicosely protested, almost on a daily basis, the Dalai Lama’s recent visit to Arunachal Pradesh, claiming it to be a “disputed territory”, although only Beijing disputes India’s control over Arunachal. It also held out threats against India jointly exploring with Vietnam for offshore hydrocarbons in Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone. Yet it has no compunctions about unveiling projects – under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) banner – in Pakistan-occupied Jammu & Kashmir, a UN-recognised disputed region.

CPEC – OBOR’s flagship programme, which will cement Pakistan’s status as China’s economic and security client – has become a convenient cover for Beijing to include major strategic projects, stretching from Gilgit-Baltistan to Pakistan’s Chinese-built Gwadar port. The Bunji and Bhasha dams are also claimed to be part of CPEC, which, by linking the maritime and overland “Silk Roads” that China is creating, will gravely impinge on India’s security. A grateful Pakistan has given China exclusive rights to run Gwadar port for the next 40 years.

The Bunji and Bhasha dams, which will largely benefit the dominant Punjab province, located downstream, are set to enlarge China’s strategic footprint in the restive, Shia-majority Gilgit-Baltistan. For years, China has stationed several thousand of its own troops in Gilgit-Baltistan, ostensibly to protect its strategic projects there, including upgrading the Karakoram Highway and building a new railway and secret tunnels. CPEC has spurred increased concern that Gilgit-Baltistan, like Tibet, could get overwhelmed by the Chinese behemoth.

Pakistani authorities are responding harshly to anti-CPEC protests in Gilgit-Baltistan, where the corridor is widely seen as opening the path to the region’s enslavement by China. The fact that China rules Gilgit-Baltistan’s Shaksgam, Raskam, Shimshal and Aghil valleys – ceded by Pakistan in 1963 to cement its strategic alliance with Beijing – has only added to the grassroots resistance against Chinese projects, which extend to mineral-resource extraction.

Indeed, the Bunji and Bhasha Dam projects are already facing grassroots resistance because they are viewed locally as instruments to expropriate Gilgit-Baltistan’s water resources for Punjab province. The Bhasha Dam alone will flood 200 square kilometres of Gilgit-Baltistan, displacing at least 28,000 residents and submerging some significant archaeological sites.

As China uses CPEC to turn Pakistan into a colonial outpost, its new dam projects in Gilgit promise to bring the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) under greater pressure. The paradox here is that China does not accept even the concept of water sharing but its activities in Gilgit are likely to impinge on the world’s most generous water-sharing treaty that remains a colossus among water pacts in the world.

The 57-year-old IWT has survived mainly because of India’s goodwill and full adherence, even as Pakistan violates the Shimla peace treaty and canons of civilised conduct. China’s construction of dams in a disputed region is set to make Pakistan’s water relationship with India murkier. The Chinese role will not only cast a pall on the IWT’s future but it could also deal a mortal blow to the treaty.

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...ec-mega-dams-are-planned-in-gilgit-baltistan/
As expected, this article, written by an Indian, is a dirty pack of lies, deceptions, and wishful thinking. It's not that Indian is crying; it's the deep pain and frustration of Indians that are at the display. Look at the following lies from Brahma Chellaney.

"In a new challenge to India, which claims Gilgit-Baltistan as its own territory, China will fund and ... "
Plain lie. Indians reneged on their promise made by their PM Nehru at a forum none other than UN to have a plebiscite in the disputed state. How can then these idiots claim the ownership of Gilgit-Baltistan after turning rouge on their commitment made at the UN.

"India announced its boycott of China’s OBOR summit, saying no country “can accept a project that ignores its core concerns on sovereignty and territorial integrity”....."
Again a plain lie. Indians were not even invited to the summit. China invited other countries including Japan and Vietnam (and they participated) but not India. And their claim of territorial integrity is a hoax that the world community has already rejected. Even Russian president Putin chose to ignored Indian request not to participate in the summit. More than that, Putin strongly supported the project. India is in fact badly isolated and Modi is licking his wounds.

"Still, Pakistan disingenuously rails against India’s modest hydropower projects in J&K and has sought fresh international arbitral tribunal proceedings against India over two projects, including the tiny 330MW Kishenganga."
Indians are consistently violating the IWT and the treaty specifies the required mechanism for resolving any complains/violations. Pakistan is simply following that mechanism. What is wrong with that?

"Yet it has no compunctions about unveiling projects – under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) banner – in Pakistan-occupied Jammu & Kashmir, a UN-recognised disputed region."
Which UN resolutions, BTW? The resolutions that Indians have renegaded by claiming all along that those resolutions are not relevant any more.

"A grateful Pakistan has given China exclusive rights to run Gwadar port for the next 40 years."
Gwadar is Pakisani port. It's none of Indians' business. Why the heck these filthy neighbors of our have such a deep pain in their rear?

"The Bunji and Bhasha dams, which will largely benefit the dominant Punjab province, located downstream, ..."
Indians are just exposing their inner dark and hate for Pakistan. Let these idiots burn in their own jealousy forever.

"CPEC has spurred increased concern that Gilgit-Baltistan, like Tibet, could get overwhelmed by the Chinese behemoth."
What Indians have to do with that? It's Pakistan's issue. We know how to protect our national interests.

"Pakistani authorities are responding harshly to anti-CPEC protests in Gilgit-Baltistan, where the corridor is widely seen as opening the path to the region’s enslavement by China."
Pure BS. Rather the people of Occupied J&K are bravely facing Indian bullets and 700000 Indian troops to protest the illegal Indian occupation of their state. The people of Gilgit-Baltistan are happy with the CPEC. This project will turn their towns and cities into mega centers of bustling business.

"As China uses CPEC to turn Pakistan into a colonial outpost, its new dam projects in Gilgit promise to bring the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) under greater pressure."
First of all these idiots are telling us that we will be colonized by Chinese. What is hypocrisy! Indians are our severed enemies. When did these idiots turned into our well-wishers? I would love to know.
Second, IWT is between India, Pakistan, and WB. China has nothing to do with that.

"The 57-year-old IWT has survived mainly because of India’s goodwill and full adherence, even as Pakistan violates the Shimla peace treaty and canons of civilised conduct."
Again typical Indian lie. The record shows that it's always Pakistan complaining to the WB about Indian violations. A country that disgracefully turned rogue on its promise made at the UN is accusing Pakistan of violating peace treaty and canoning of civilized conduct. What a shame, bloody Indian liars.
 
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Such is the mammoth size of the planned 7,100MW Bunji Dam and the 4,500MW Bhasha Dam that India does not have a single dam measuring even one-third of Bunji in power generating capacity. In fact, the total installed hydropower capacity in India’s part of J&K does not equal even the smaller of the two planned dams in Gilgit.

Ram lela says jealousy can kill rats. This is nothing, G-B Katzara dam 15,000MW wity water storage capacity 35MAF was shelved for time being. One can only imagine how Indians will react to that dam.
 
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India has Zero dependency on water from China, 80% of water in Ravi Beas Chenab etc originate in Indian territory.
Similarly 70% of Brahmaputra water originate in Indian territory.

But Pakistan is at our mercy for water as only 15% of Indus water originate in Pakistan.
@Talwar e Pakistan
 
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India has Zero dependency on water from China, 80% of water in Ravi Beas Chenab etc originate in Indian territory.
Similarly 70% of Brahmaputra water originate in Indian territory.

But Pakistan is at our mercy for water as only 15% of Indus water originate in Pakistan.
@Talwar e Pakistan

The reason China is investing in water reservoirs is to use available water to maximum which is not happening, after that Pakistan can go to ICJ and ask for implementation of IWT from its guarantors
 
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