China, Pakistan and India conflict analysis

[Chhatrapati]

re: stop lying !

... you begged the USAF to save your brown hairy arses. - this is per declassified CIA cables of 1962.

nuke bomb ? That was in 1974 thanks to Soviet help.

haha you don't have to obsess over hairy *** keep gay fantasies away from thread. Nobody asked USAF to save us, we lacked a credible air force at the time, we asked U-2 planes to spot Chinese position for us. It's like satellites images of the 60's.

re : like on 27 feb

No. Like in 65 when Pakistan invaded Kashmir and ended up defending Lahore from Indian assault. Quite a huge difference.

you don’t even know what you are saying ... 200 tactical nukes aimed India’s direction means Pakistan has restored strategic parity...

clown do some research! Before vomiting like RSS TV

Don't pop a vein in anger, I'm simply telling you well-documented facts. Denial and deflection now will not change your past. What has 200 tactical nukes got to do with 71 war?

In kargil we saw how ineffective your soldiers were...even then our infantry was rated better than yours..

20+ years of heavy combat against taliban , plus revised and updated training and circulrum, tactic and experience Pakistani infantry is better than ever.. good luck against them.

hmmm not enough to take Kashmir, try again later.

 

[Arsalan 345]

What was the number? 13 right? When you needed a bailout. Pakistan seek international intervention all the time to no avail. Here's the thing, international intervention do not come if Pakistan wish.


No we didn't, we simply tested a Nuke after the defeat in 62, and took you to cleaners in 65 split your country into two in 71 ending the biggest strategic threat to our existence.

No matter PDF fanboys likes to portray India's image is, we are unfazed and in a secure position in terms of stature. Be it in terms of scientific prowess, economy or image. The number of multilateral cooperation which we are part of, the agreements we sign, how many MNC we operate outside the country, soft power. I don't even want to compare any of these to Pakistan, for one I don't like to belittle anymore it's pointless. You are free to live in denials and listen to feel-good interviews like this.

I don't want to argue you over past. Present is totally different.despite great image and better economy,India has failed to defend it's own interests.you need allies against china.it can be seen easily that without help,India can't even fight against pakistan.all this bravado and great image doesn't help you.you can't project yourself as asain power by creating problems with two nuclear rivals.china and Pak aren't fools and both doesn't accept indian unilateral decisions.abrogation has no value.those who used to talk about gilgit are now at the mercy of Chinese. this is reality. According to indian members,India can defeat anyone but in reality,you are in great trouble.there is no place for defensive approach in today's world.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Some logical comment finally.

I don't want to argue you over past. Present is totally different.despite great image and better economy,India has failed to defend it's own interests.you need allies against china.it can be seen easily that without help,India can't even fight against pakistan.all this bravado and great image doesn't help you.you can't remain a power asian subcontinent by creating problems with two nuclear rivals.china and Pak aren't fools and both doesn't accept indian unilateral decisions.abrogation has no value.those who used to talk about gilgit are now at the mercy of Chinese. this is reality.

You analyze from an 'India wanting to invade' perspective. No, we will settle for LOC as border tomorrow, but I don't think your establishment would want that. India can very well fight against Pakistan, we have done it with poor economy and equipment why do you think we went weak since 71? So no, we are not interested in invading, you taught us what happens to an invading force in those hilly terrains.

Now our economic interest, India grew on an average 7%-8% for the last 5 years, we add $1 trillion to our economy every 5 years all this while we still had our hostilities with Pakistan. In this century, economic prowess and market is the deciding factor when it comes to power. The military is secondary.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Is it not there ?

It's only up to the break.

The second part is supposed to be regarding India-China Ladakh stand-off (or Indian surrender).

 

[PradoTLC]

I don't want to argue you over past. Present is totally different.despite great image and better economy,India has failed to defend it's own interests.you need allies against china.it can be seen easily that without help,India can't even fight against pakistan.all this bravado and great image doesn't help you.you can't project yourself as asain power by creating problems with two nuclear rivals.china and Pak aren't fools and both doesn't accept indian unilateral decisions.abrogation has no value.those who used to talk about gilgit are now at the mercy of Chinese. this is reality. According to indian members,India can defeat anyone but in reality,you are in great trouble.there is no place for defensive approach in today's world.

The main issue is indians need to stop an age old habit and stop being liars...

haha you don't have to obsess over hairy *** keep gay fantasies away from thread.

firstly I am not an indian and i do not lie... when i say something is usually based on some fact. Unlike you.

Nobody asked USAF to save us, we lacked a credible air force at the time, we asked U-2 planes to spot Chinese position for us

Really?.. only U2?...

QOUTE:

Nehru sought US help to fight China: ex-CIA official

"In the letter, Nehru asked for 12 squadrons of US air forces, Mr Riedel told the Washington audience during the preview of the book at an event organised by the Brookings Institute — a top American think-tank — on Tuesday.

Mr Riedel said in his second letter that Nehru was, in fact, asking Kennedy for some 350 combat aircraft and crews: 12 squadrons of fighter aircraft and crews: 12 squadron of fighter aircraft with 24 jets in each and two bomber squadrons."


https://www.dawn.com/news/1213149

No. Like in 65 when Pakistan invaded Kashmir and ended up defending Lahore from Indian assault. Quite a huge difference

earlier you said you cleaned our clocks?....or sheets?.. now you are accepting there was a successful defence of the Lahore?.

a U turn?...

Besides India ran to the UN for a ceasefire not us..a winner doesnt seek a ceasefire a losing side does.

Kashmir was not an invasion it was liberation. Only invaders were indians.

Don't pop a vein in anger, I'm simply telling you well-documented facts. Denial and deflection now will not change your past. What has 200 tactical nukes got to do with 71 war?

and i am telling you to use your brain.

Pakistan has achieve strategic parity with India due to more advance missile delivery and potent tactical nuke program. This is the current situation today.

A sector victory in 1971 did not give you strategic dominance. if you want harp history, In that case we muslims ruled you clowns for 1000+ years.. were where your soldiers then?

hmmm not enough to take Kashmir, try again later.

Correct it is not enough.. against 700K entrenched Indian soldiers

that is why we have Major Modi to help us. Alienating million of muslims in India, picking a fight with China on US orders etc..

The second part is supposed to be regarding India-China Ladakh stand-off (or Indian surrender).

ok

when it comes up i will post it.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Some logical comment finally.

You analyze from an 'India wanting to invade' perspective. No, we will settle for LOC as border tomorrow, but I don't think your establishment would want that. India can very well fight against Pakistan, we have done it with poor economy and equipment why do you think we went weak since 71? So no, we are not interested in invading, you taught us what happens to an invading force in those hilly terrains.

Now our economic interest, India grew on an average 7%-8% for the last 5 years, we add $1 trillion to our economy every 5 years all this while we still had our hostilities with Pakistan. In this century, economic prowess and market is the deciding factor when it comes to power. The military is secondary.

but it doesn't look like because you clearly need help of allies against china.against pakistan,you can fight any day. we are old enemies and know each other.we both can't capture anything without casualties.as far as china is concerned,india is clueless. india is behaving like nothing happened. what is the use of this big economy if you can't push back an enemy? there are many questions and you should better ask it to your government.

 

[Chhatrapati]

but it doesn't look like because you clearly need help of allies against china.against pakistan,you can fight any day. we are old enemies and know each other.we both can't capture anything without casualties.as far as china is concerned,india is clueless. india is behaving like nothing happened. what is the use of this big economy if you can't push back an enemy? there are many questions and you should better ask it to your government.

I'm pretty sure neither India or China wants to give US an opportunity to engage freely in the region the war is not on the table as of now. But, any day I don't see Pakistan as a threat that we need help neither do China for that matter. India has enough forces to give a bloody nose for any invading force.
India is certainly not behaving as nothing happened, we are already in a force buildup across the border, taking actions economically, and working with other western nations against China to undermine them and further our economic interest. The real question is where Pakistan fits in all this? I don't see any relevance to you.

Nehru sought US help to fight China: ex-CIA official

Yeah, ex CIA official is not giving any classified detail. And they are professional liars why should we trust any word that comes out of CIA official, only declassified material available of it is India asking for U-2 to spot Chinese position.

earlier you said you cleaned our clocks?....or sheets?.. now you are accepting there was a successful defence of the Lahore?.

a U turn?...

Besides India ran to the UN for a ceasefire not us..a winner doesnt seek a ceasefire a losing side does.

Kashmir was not an invasion it was liberation. Only invaders were indians.

That's the funniest thing. You celebrate defending Lahore when you were the invading force in the first place. Our intent was not Lahore but to split your force fighting from Kashmir giving us enough bargaining chip. Which we successfully did.

and i am telling you to use your brain.

Pakistan has achieve strategic parity with India due to more advance missile delivery and potent tactical nuke program. This is the current situation today.

A sector victory in 1971 did not give you strategic dominance. if you want harp history, In that case we muslims ruled you clowns for 1000+ years.. were where your soldiers then?

firstly I am not an indian and i do not lie... when i say something is usually based on some fact. Unlike you.

...... I'm responding for the sheer fun of reading this kind of fanboy outbursts.

 

[PradoTLC]

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India still denies it's seeing community transmission even as cases surge.

Rajesh Kumar, 45, started coughing in early June. Within days, he was running a high fever.

He didn't get tested for coronavirus. Instead he took anti-fever medication for five days. But the fever persisted, and soon he had difficulty breathing.

His family asked him to get tested, but he refused. His rationale was that there was no way he could have contracted Covid-19 because he had hardly stepped out of his house in Delhi, and he had not met anybody who had the virus or was even suspected of having it.

Eight days after the symptoms first appeared, his condition deteriorated. He was rushed to hospital, where he tested positive.

"I survived, but doctors told me that any more delay in hospitalisation could have cost me my life," he says.




https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53510307

I'm pretty sure neither India or China wants to give US an opportunity to engage freely in the region the war is not on the table as of now. But, any day I don't see Pakistan as a threat that we need help neither do China for that matter. India has enough forces to give a bloody nose for any invading force.
India is certainly not behaving as nothing happened, we are already in a force buildup across the border, taking actions economically, and working with other western nations against China to undermine them and further our economic interest. The real question is where Pakistan fits in all this? I don't see any relevance to you.


Yeah, ex CIA official is not giving any classified detail. And they are professional liars why should we trust any word that comes out of CIA official, only declassified material available of it is India asking for U-2 to spot Chinese position.


That's the funniest thing. You celebrate defending Lahore when you were the invading force in the first place. Our intent was not Lahore but to split your force fighting from Kashmir giving us enough bargaining chip. Which we successfully did.




...... I'm responding for the sheer fun of reading this kind of fanboy outbursts.

So basically you have admitted you don’t know any thing only full of denials and you are just full of crap like 100% Indians jackasses on this forum.

congratulations! You live up to your reputation.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I'm pretty sure neither India or China wants to give US an opportunity to engage freely in the region the war is not on the table as of now. But, any day I don't see Pakistan as a threat that we need help neither do China for that matter. India has enough forces to give a bloody nose for any invading force.
India is certainly not behaving as nothing happened, we are already in a force buildup across the border, taking actions economically, and working with other western nations against China to undermine them and further our economic interest. The real question is where Pakistan fits in all this? I don't see any relevance to you.


Yeah, ex CIA official is not giving any classified detail. And they are professional liars why should we trust any word that comes out of CIA official, only declassified material available of it is India asking for U-2 to spot Chinese position.


That's the funniest thing. You celebrate defending Lahore when you were the invading force in the first place. Our intent was not Lahore but to split your force fighting from Kashmir giving us enough bargaining chip. Which we successfully did.




...... I'm responding for the sheer fun of reading this kind of fanboy outbursts.

Working with other Western allies? This sums up everything.those who used to talk about gilgit and aksai chin now needs help of United states.i don't want to say anything more.