China-Pakistan alliance again comes up short on Kashmir (Actual Headline should be France rebuffs )

[Yankee-stani]

WASHINGTON: China made another bid on Wednesday to raise the ..

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[Kaniska]

WASHINGTON: China made another bid on Wednesday to raise the ..

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China is well aware that even if it tries to push for any discussion, it will be vetoed by someone or the other. If China is sincere, they should try to find a way to make it happen by some diplomatic means to persuade the other 4 nations to support its motion.

 

[Beast]

China is well aware that even if it tries to push for any discussion, it will be vetoed by someone or the other. If China is sincere, they should try to find a way to make it happen by some diplomatic means to persuade the other 4 nations to support its motion.

Isn't China already doing that? Instead you shall put the problem on the 4 other countries. China is already doing what they can do. No fault on Chinese.

 

[Kaniska]

Isn't China already doing that? Instead you shall put the problem on the 4 other countries. China is already doing what they can do. No fault on Chinese.

Nothing unexpected out of China. You are simply providing lip service to Pakistan( in specific Kashmir issue) knowing well that your veto initiative will be rejected.

 

[Beast]

Nothing unexpected out of China. You are simply providing lip service to Pakistan( in specific Kashmir issue) knowing well that your veto initiative will be rejected.

Typical discord tactics. If that is the case, why would China even bother to raise it? Again another blaming mentality by Indians. Let me put this clearly again. Fault is not on Chinese side.

The awareness of Kashmir suffering is at least heard by rest of the world. Unlike 4 other countries who don't do even a single thing. China even need to bear the wrath of India and even possible of boycott of Chinese products by Indians. Clearly show principle above profits.

 

[Kaniska]

Typical discord tactics. If that is the case, why would China even bother. Once again another blaming mentality by Indians. Let me put this clearly again. Fault is not on Chinese side.

Well...technically you are correct...You stood for your friend knowing well that no one will listen to you.

Anyway, i am not here to judge if China is good or bad, but Kashmir is quite peaceful than it was last year. That is good news for us. Rest of the world can debate in their part as much as they want, but we are happy to see that there are not any significant loss of civilian life in Kashmir.

 

[BringHarmony]

Isn't China already doing that? Instead you shall put the problem on the 4 other countries. China is already doing what they can do. No fault on Chinese.

China should first address its own issues in Hong Kong and Uighurs Muslims.

 

[Beast]

Well...technically you are correct...You stood for your friend knowing well that no one will listen to you.

Anyway, i am not here to judge if China is good or bad, but Kashmir is quite peaceful than it was last year. That is good news for us. Rest of the world can debate in their part as much as they want, but we are happy to see that there are not any significant loss of civilian life in Kashmir.

From your tone, we already know your problem blaming tactics. Who is the rest of the world? Just becos of the 4 nation? We bear the consequences of India boycott of Chinese products and yet we still proceed with the inquiry. Are u telling me you Indians is not going to boycott our products for this issue?

China should first address its own issues in Hong Kong and Uighurs Muslims.

There are internal issue. Not the same as kashmir.

 

[BringHarmony]

There are internal issue. Not the same as kashmir.

Hong Kong is not internal issue because HongKong is not China, neither is human rights violations.

 

[Kaniska]

From your tone, we already know your problem balming tactics. Who is the rest of the world? Just becos of the 4 nation? We bear the consequences of India boycott of Chinese products and yet we still proceed with the inquiry. Are u telling me you Indians is not going to boycott our products for this issue?

Stop your nonsense. HK and xinjiang is internal matter.

"If wishes were horses, beggars would ride". If things could have happened based on my wish, i hope to see a peaceful South Asia rather than we are at each other throat where US,West and China use every oppertunity to exploit us.

I am not sure if you really understand the pulse of Indian people, but our people react to Pakistan and their allies differently due to historical reasons...Even if many politicians and army generals are sounded alarmed about danger from China for India, somehow, Indian public perception is not anti-China per se in their mindset...One of the reasons could be as China is still believed and perceived positively due to its culture associated with Non-Muslim and Non-Christian religions. Again, i am referring to ordinary Indian people where there is informal perception is created. So yes, people and political parties may sound to stand against China for boycotting products, but there is not such severe hatred/anti China minset that is built in for normal chines people..

 

[maximuswarrior]

Hong Kong is not internal issue because HongKong is not China, neither is human rights violations.

There are no issues in Hong Kong or with Uyghur.

 

[Beast]

Hong Kong is not internal issue because HongKong is not China, neither is human rights violations.

Lol... You talk about human right violation? If China really violate human right. Most of the HK rioters will long be dead on street. See Iran and Iraq of how they handles protestors. HK police are benevolent and China has the highest respect for human right. Yet western media only decide to focus problem on HK protest. See the ironic? It's never about human right but trying to being down China no matter what correct things China do.

 

[American Pakistani]

Lol... You talk about human right violation? If China really violate human right. Most of the HK rioters will long be dead on street. See Iran and Iraq of how they handles protestors. HK police are benevolent and China has the highest respect for human right. Yet western media only decide to focus problem on HK protest. See the ironic? It's never about human right but trying to being down China no matter what correct things China do.

You don't have to go so far to Iran or Iraq, indian shot its Muslim population like dogs for protesting against some bill.

Also in India you will get raped if you don't obey govt. I can post links if anyone want.

We are thankful to China for its active and responsible measures wrt Kashmir. Rest 4 countries sold themselves for money.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Hong Kong is not internal issue because HongKong is not China, neither is human rights violations.

Horse crap as usual. Do you know what indefinite Internet ban, curfews, arrest and indefinite detention of elected civilian leadership without charge (STILL ONGOING), removal of democratically elected state parliament and installation of centrally directed governorship, documented torture of protesters with pellet guns and blinding and lethal force against protesters, intimidation of doctors to amend death certificates to hide deaths due to state action, exercising of state emergency powers indefinitely to protect security forces from prosecution for crimes against civilians, and refusal to honour the hitherto guaranteed right (guaranteed by Delhi no less, who are now reneging on their own promise to Kashmiris) of Kashmiris to ultimately decide any changes in their state's political status all amounts to?

And once you've figured out what all of that actually means, please do remind us how any of that is happening in HK/xinjiang.

Such nonsense from people who really should know better.

It's interesting to note that some Chinese states still seem to be struggling with poverty - going by western reports - but HK and xinjiang are not ever reported as such even in western media who would dearly love to describe them as "neglected". By all accounts I've seen, HK certainly and xinjiang probably have been made very prosperous by the PRC government and they did it without locking away elected state representatives for no reason.

China truly is an ally of Pakistan. Pakistanis won't forget it.

Rest 4 countries sold themselves for money.

To suggest it's just about money is an oversimplification for UK, USA and France. They have a crusades obsession that never seems to go away - France especially.

 

[BringHarmony]

how any of that is happening in HK/xinjiang.

You do know what is happening in xinjiang, don't you?

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-uighur-monitor-home-shared-bed-report-2019-11
China is reportedly sending men to sleep in the same beds as Uighur Muslim women while their husbands are in prison camps