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China leads in many high-speed rail aspects
By Zhai Wanming (China Daily) Updated: 2015-04-27 07:38



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A CRH train that runs on Lanzhou-Urumqi High-Speed Railway stops at Urumqi South Railway Station in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Dec 26, 2014. [Photo/Xinhua]

Media reports suggest Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will try to promote Shinkansen bullet train technology during his visit to the United States (which started on April 26) to cash in on the US' plans to prop up its economy with high-speed railway.

Obviously, Japan is competing with China to get a share of the high-speed train market in US and some other countries. So which country has the upper hand?

China may be a latecomer in high-speed train construction, but some of its technologies are better than other countries'. For example, one exquisite technological requirement is that the surface of the rails that touches the wheels must be delicately clean while the track geometry should be smooth, because even the minutest flaw could shake a train considering its high speed. This is just one of the areas in which China excels - the rails on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed train line are so smooth that the test train reached speeds of 380 kilometers an hour without any evident shaking.

On another technological index - degree of ride comfort - China's high-speed trains' record is good, too. Every train has to pass strict even severe tests before being pressed into service to ensure passengers enjoy the maximum comfort. Many passengers who have traveled by high-speed trains in China and Europe say the former are better. On other indexes such as dynamic safety, too, China's high-speed railways show good performance.

Besides, China's high-speed railways cost the least in the world. It is globally acknowledged that, the cost of building high-speed railways is the lowest in China. In October 2014, while bidding for the Boston subway program, China CNR Corporation Limited, despite not bagging the contract, quoted a price that was only about 60 percent that of its Japanese competitor Kawasaki Heavy Industries.

The incident prompted Japanese enterprises to accuse China of "dumping", albeit without any basis. China's high-speed railways cost less because of the low cost of labor in the country. High-speed railways require civil and electrical engineering, and all kinds of physical labor, which cost much more in a fast aging society like Japan. And therein lies China's advantage.

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Also, the low cost of China's high-speed railways has a lot to do with the lower requirement of profit.

Another incomparable advantage Chinese high-speed railways have is the country's difficult geographical terrains. China has already built more than 16,000 km of high-speed railways across high plateaus, mountains, plains and deserts. Working in such terrains, Chinese engineers and workers have gained precious experience to deal with difficulties of any kind. Working together, engineers and other technical experts, and manual workers have developed a strong teamwork spirit and mutual trust.

Of course, the Japanese too have their advantages. Masaki Ogata, executive vice-chairman of East Japan Railway Company, said in a recent interview, Shinkansen technology can prevent damage to high-speed railways during earthquakes, and has advantages in environmental protection and noise control.

Indeed, Japanese high-speed railways enjoy these advantages. But China is developing its high-speed train technology fast enough to catch up with the best by, among other things, funding research teams to develop advanced monitoring and early warning systems, and quake-resistant technology to ensure the safety of high-speed railways. Even in environmental protection, China has gained enough experience while building the railway that connects Lhasa, Tibet with Qinghai province.

In short, China's high-speed railways are good in quality and competitive in price, and will definitely be better in the future.

Zhai Wanming is a chair professor at Southwest Jiaotong University and a member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The article is an excerpt from his interview with China Daily's Zhang Zhouxiang.

China leads in many high-speed rail aspects - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn
 
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I am set to visit China let's check it out :coffee:
 
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The Japanese are basically the inventors of High Speed Trains and have a developed network with a decades old history, know-how cant be bought.

Oh and bear in mind that Japanese Maglev just broke another world record recently.

Japan’s Maglev Train Hits World Record 590 Kilometers Per Hour - Japan Real Time - WSJ
Yes, at exorbitant price. Anything can be world class.

Striking the best balance at safety,quality, durabilities and price is an art which Chinese is master of it.

Dont't forget your Turkey HSR is build by China. If China HSR is that bad then your compatriot must be sinister to give the project to Chinese.
 
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Yes, at exorbitant price. Anything can be world class.

Striking the best balance at safety,quality, durabilities and price is an art which Chinese is master of it.

Dont't forget your Turkey HSR is build by China. If China HSR is that bad then your compatriot must be sinister to give the project to Chinese.
No doubt about Chinese capabilities but degrading Japanese capabilities is unfair, ofcourse Japanese prices are higher since Japan is on the top of rankings regarding GDP per Capita.

And about Turkey, yes Turkey and China agreed on cooperation in High Speed Train sector but as of now the Turkish network is being built in cooperation with western companies.


But Turkey could need help in speeding up the indigenous High Speed Train project though.

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No doubt about Chinese capabilities but degrading Japanese capabilities is unfair, ofcourse Japanese prices are higher since Japan is on the top of rankings regarding GDP per Capita.

And about Turkey, yes Turkey and China agreed on cooperation in High Speed Train sector but as of now the Turkish network is being built in cooperation with western companies.


But Turkey could need help in speeding up the indigenous High Speed Train project though.

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We are not degrading it. As i say at exorbitant price of 70% higher while offer only 20% increase in capabilites compare to competitors is nothing to be brag about.

Price sometimes do matter as long as it dont compromise safety.
 
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We are not degrading it. As i say at exorbitant price of 70% higher while offer only 20% increase in capabilites is nothing to be brag about.

Price sometimes do matter as long as it dont compromise safety.
At this speed of development Chinese prices wont be cheap either after 20 years, thats one of the effects of development.
 
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We are not degrading it. As i say at exorbitant price of 70% higher while offer only 20% increase in capabilites compare to competitors is nothing to be brag about.

Price sometimes do matter as long as it dont compromise safety.


No need to degrade, Beast.

At this speed of development Chinese prices wont be cheap either after 20 years, thats one of the effects of development.


You also made a great point. Japanese HSR has a stellar record in our nearly 60 years of history. No doubt in the future, I'd like to see Japanese help upgrade Turkey's own railway systems. Perhaps in R&D :)
 
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At this speed of development Chinese prices wont be cheap either after 20 years, thats one of the effects of development.

China do realised the problem of increasing the standard of living that will lead to higher operating cost. We targetted a GDP of US 23000 per person will be good enough for China to beat US by hell lot number in total economy output.

We will not repeat Japanese mistake of increasing standard of living too high until export becomes too noncompetitive. China is fortunate to accumulate all mistakes of developed world and make sure we do not follow their steps. Sometimes it helps to develop later than others.
 
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You also made a great point. Japanese HSR has a stellar record in our nearly 60 years of history. No doubt in the future, I'd like to see Japanese help upgrade Turkey's own railway systems. Perhaps in R&D :)
I pretty sure the Turkish-Japanese university in Istanbul will help us in one or another field. :)

Project have became more clear. University will be established between Kocaeli and Istanbul.

The majors will be;
- Nuclear Engineering
- Electric-Electronics Engineering
- Information Technologies
- Computer Engineering
- Applied Physics
- Mechanical Engineering
- Molecular Biology
- Chemistry
- Mathematics
- Astronomy

Bakan müjdeyi verdi: Kuruluyor - Milliyet Haber

@Nihonjin1051 :cheers:
 
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No need to degrade, Beast.




You also made a great point. Japanese HSR has a stellar record in our nearly 60 years of history. No doubt in the future, I'd like to see Japanese help upgrade Turkey's own railway systems. Perhaps in R&D :)

Japan has a stellar record but on a shorter milleage and lower operating distance accumulate over so many decades.

One single year of China total HSR milleage equals almost 6 years of Japanese HSR track record. When CHina reaches 22000km of HSR rail distance. One single year of CHina HSR is equal to one decades of Japan HSR record. So far, China HSR is still consider very good.
 
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China do realised the problem of increasing the standard of living that will lead to higher operating cost. We targetted a GDP of US 23000 per person will be good enough for China to beat US by hell lot number in total economy output.

We will not repeat Japanese mistake of increasing standard of living too high until export becomes too noncompetitive. China is fortunate to accumulate all mistakes of developed world and make sure we do not follow their steps. Sometimes it helps to develop later than others.
China can control the economic development to a certain amount but it has one of the most liberal economies in the world, if there is space to grow then it will grow, cant do much against it.

But China doesnt have to worry about that anyway, it has a huge domestic market.
 
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