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[StarCraft_ZT]

Facial differences....

Seriously, this website can help.

Facial Structure Recognition - Can You Tell The Difference Between Japanese / Korean / Chinese Faces?

Also, this link can help too.

http://www.thejapanguy.com/can-you-distinguish-between-korean-japanese-and-chinese-faces/

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

^^^


If you truly can tell the Koreans and Chinese apart, more power to you.

Culturally and visually, I can't tell the difference.

They even mean their capital Han City (Seoul).

Most Chinese can tell them part, since Koreans generally have stiffer facial expression and their face is usually fatter.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Facial differences....

Seriously, this website can help.

Facial Structure Recognition - Can You Tell The Difference Between Japanese / Korean / Chinese Faces?

Also, this link can help too.

Can You Distinguish Between Korean, Japanese, and Chinese Faces? | The Japan Guy

This is not correct, many Northern Chinese women actually have longer/narrower face, while the Southern Chinese women have shorter/rounder face.

Wang Yaping is a typical Northern Chinese women with longer/narrower face.

I was born and grew up in Shanghai, if a Shanghainese woman who shares a similar phenotype with Wang Yaping, then her ancestry must be traced back in Northern Jiangsu or Shandong, where the Northern Chinese phenotype dominates.

 

[armchairPrivate]

^^^

I will print that picture and use it as a template.

Next time I see an East Asian, I will hold the picture up against their face.

 

[StarCraft_ZT]

This is not correct, many Northern Chinese women actually have longer narrower face, while the Southern Chinese women have shorter/rounder face.

Yeah, we can tell north Chinese and south Chinese apart.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yeah, we can tell north Chinese and south Chinese apart.

Stereotypically, yes.

There are even some Cantonese who can be phenotypically very Northern Chinese, but these individuals are mostly Hakka or Teochew.

 

[armchairPrivate]

Come to think of it, I don't think the representation in the picture is correct.

Isn't there's an expression "melon seed face" that describe the Chinese women's face? But that face is Japanese.

The Chinese face in the picture is like a moon, which is also an expression "face like a full-moon".

The Korean face is not like that in the picture. The jawline is too wide for a Korean woman.

So I don't think it is a good way for identifying the three different people. I almost got fooled by you.

haha

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Come to think of it, I don't think the representation in the picture is correct.

Isn't there's an expression "melon seed face" that describe the Chinese women's face? But that face is Japanese.

The Chinese face in the picture is like a moon, which is also an expression "face like a full-moon".

The Korean face is not like that in the picture. The jawline is too wide for a Korean woman.

So I don't think it is a good way for identifying the three different people. I almost got fooled by you.

Most Chinese can tell part Korean and Japanese most of time, but it might be little harder for the westerners.

But i've seen many western posters from some Anthropology forums can easily tell the East Asians apart from each others, but those people might be a bit too racialist in there view.

 

[armchairPrivate]

People say Suzhou women are the most beautiful. Is it true? Any picture of it's representation?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

People say Suzhou women are the most beautiful. Is it true? Any picture of it's representation?

Suzhou women and Shanghai women are very similar, because their ancestry are close to each other.

Here is an example. And i've seen better looking girls in Shanghai, but unfortunately i don't have there pics.

 

[armchairPrivate]

^^^

Wow. My jaw is on the floor.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I don't think it's accurate to descript a nationality just base on some steriotype description, there is alot of blood mixed people will even confuse us more. take this video as example, without Japanese Kimono, it's hard to tell that she's japanese.

なみã*酒 - YouTube

 

[Wholegrain]

As far as I know

Korean blood line are mixture of Turgus and Han Chinese.

South Korea maternal line is 50% Turgus and 10% Han Chinese. Paternal line is 30% Turgus and 40% Han Chinese.

I read it was 12.5 % of Koreans who had Chinese Y chromosomes.

Y-chromosomal DNA haplogroups and their implicatio... [Hum Genet. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

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Hum Genet. 2003 Dec;114(1):27-35. Epub 2003 Sep 18.

Y-chromosomal DNA haplogroups and their implications for the dual origins of the Koreans.

Jin HJ, Kwak KD, Hammer MF, Nakahori Y, Shinka T, Lee JW, Jin F, Jia X, Tyler-Smith C, Kim W.

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Department of Biological Sciences, Dankook University, 330-714 Cheonan, Korea.

Abstract

We have analyzed eight Y-chromosomal binary markers (YAP, RPS4Y(711), M9, M175, LINE1, SRY(+465), 47z, and M95) and three Y-STR markers (DYS390, DYS391, and DYS393) in 738 males from 11 ethnic groups in east Asia in order to study the male lineage history of Korea. Haplogroup DE-YAP was found at a high frequency only in Japan but was also present at low frequencies in northeast Asia, including 2.5% in Korea, suggesting a northern origin for these chromosomes. Haplogroup C-RPS4Y(711) was present in Korea and Manchuria at moderate frequencies: higher than in populations from southeast Asia, but lower than those in the northeast, which may imply a northern Asian expansion of these lineages, perhaps from Mongolia or Siberia. The major Y-chromosomal expansions in east Asia were those of haplogroup O-M175 (and its sublineages). This haplogroup is likely to have originated in southern east Asia and subsequently expanded to all of east Asia. The moderate frequency of one sublineage in the Koreans, haplogroup O-LINE1 (12.5%), could be a result of interaction with Chinese populations. The age of another sublineage, haplogroup O-SRY(+465), and Y-STR haplotype diversity provide evidence for relatively recent male migration, originally from China, through Korea into Japan. In conclusion, the distribution pattern of Y-chromosomal haplogroups reveals the complex origin of the Koreans, resulting from genetic contributions involving the northern Asian settlement and range expansions mostly from southern-to-northern China.

PMID: 14505036 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

BBS Public - Y-chromosomal DNA haplogroups of the Koreans

Koreans have diverse paternal and maternal origins from both north and south asia.

The Peopling of Korea Revealed by Analyses of Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosomal Markers

PLoS ONE. 2009; 4(1): e4210.

Published online 2009 January 16. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0004210

PMCID: PMC2615218

The Peopling of Korea Revealed by Analyses of Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosomal Markers

Han-Jun Jin,1,2 Chris Tyler-Smith,2 and Wook Kim1,*

Mark A. Batzer, Editor

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Abstract.

Background

The Koreans are generally considered a northeast Asian group because of their geographical location. However, recent findings from Y chromosome studies showed that the Korean population contains lineages from both southern and northern parts of East Asia. To understand the genetic history and relationships of Korea more fully, additional data and analyses are necessary.


Methodology and Results

We analyzed mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequence variation in the hypervariable segments I and II (HVS-I and HVS-II) and haplogroup-specific mutations in coding regions in 445 individuals from seven east Asian populations (Korean, Korean-Chinese, Mongolian, Manchurian, Han (Beijing), Vietnamese and Thais). In addition, published mtDNA haplogroup data (N=3307), mtDNA HVS-I sequences (N=2313), Y chromosome haplogroup data (N=1697) and Y chromosome STR data (N=2713) were analyzed to elucidate the genetic structure of East Asian populations. All the mtDNA profiles studied here were classified into subsets of haplogroups common in East Asia, with just two exceptions. In general, the Korean mtDNA profiles revealed similarities to other northeastern Asian populations through analysis of individual haplogroup distributions, genetic distances between populations or an analysis of molecular variance, although a minor southern contribution was also suggested. Reanalysis of Y-chromosomal data confirmed both the overall similarity to other northeastern populations, and also a larger paternal contribution from southeastern populations.


Conclusion

The present work provides evidence that peopling of Korea can be seen as a complex process, interpreted as an early northern Asian settlement with at least one subsequent male-biased southern-to-northern migration, possibly associated with the spread of rice agriculture.

PLOS ONE: Gene Flow between the Korean Peninsula and Its Neighboring Countries

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't think it's accurate to descript a nationality just base on some steriotype description, there is alot of blood mixed people will even confuse us more. take this video as example, without Japanese Kimono, it's hard to tell that she's japanese.

なみã*é…’ - YouTube

I would say that the majority of Japanese can be told apart, but only a small percentage won't be distinguishable from Chinese.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I would say that the majority of Japanese can be told apart, but only a small percentage won't be distinguishable from Chinese.

Such as this man below that Indians like to brag him as inferior chinese