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其实我建议你有时间来大陆看看,不要被所谓的媒体蒙蔽了双眼。在我现在生存的土地上,正在进行的是全世界史无前例的迅速崛起。庞大且有效的基础设施建设、迅速而有效地惠民政策、极高强度的反腐工作正在进行。
如果你认为仅仅是一种虚妄的思想或者一种空泛的主义拯救了中国,那我觉得你才是大错特错。
你所了解的中国近代史跟现代史,在我看来是有所偏颇的。
首先就自由而言,我的国家是有自由的,为什么这么说,是因为我们可以跟全世界任何一个国家发出不一样的声音。我们不必附和任何人的观点。
我们可以在50年代刚刚接管一片疮痍的中国时勇敢的对16个国家的联合军说:滚出我朋友的土地!
我们可以在60年代一穷二白的时候勇敢的跟苏联说:滚开我的土地!
我们可以这么做,请问你们在那个年代还有哪个国家可以这么做!
这是我们国家的自由,让世界华人所骄傲的自由。
至于你说的那种自由,我们并不缺,只不过为了国家的发展,我们必须做出牺牲!
我们设置贸易壁垒,为的是保护华人企业,我们在两个世纪的时间里面惨遭杀戮跟践踏。我们建国的时候这片土地上什么都没有,我们仅仅几十年从头开始的技术积累,完全无法抗衡西方的技术积淀,完全开放就意味着国家必亡。
我们限制言论自由,因为这个时候只有一个声音是中国需要的——如何让中国更加富强!我们要复兴并且回归本来属于我们的位置!过去十七个世纪里面我们都是世界的巅峰,我们要回来!
西方世界跟台湾和HK关系融洽,那是因为你们根本在他们眼里就是贩夫走卒。
自由、独裁、这都是幌子,如果西方真的想贯彻自由,那新加坡是什么?没有独裁,新加坡怎么会有今天?
不要幼稚了,朋友,适当的时候来中国看看吧!不要把国人的纪律性跟奴隶划等号,我们不是奴隶,我们是当今世纪的主角!
西方帝国主义亡我之心不死,而且永远都不会死!这点我们比谁都清楚!

Pardon me, please post in English Language, it is Forum Rules. Thank You.

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HAHA ! Some time English does not has high effectiency, he needs to type hours but Chinese only need a few words.

If you and I can type in Latin script, instead of Kanji/Hiraga/Katakana, then so can he.

heh.
 
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Funny how Macau isnt uprising and also more developed than Hong Kong? Macau is one of the richest regions in the entire world despite being poorer in the past, Hong Kong chinese should take example of that.
 
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I think its not that simple. There are Chinese hard conservatives who are extremely anti-CPC and social liberals that are pro-CPC. For example, Okemos, Sahalian and Kolaps are all neocons that want regression back to pure Confucianism and think that the only way to do that is to get rid of the CPC.

I agree. I don't think that the different political view of individual can be considered as traitor like Qin Hui. Because even when you are liberal, or commie, or Islamic Hardliner, or Neocon, you still have your country in your heart. What make you different to each other is that you think that your ideology is the best for your country. Sometime it cause trouble (and big trouble). But I can't consider them as the same as Qin Hui who was basically a pure traitor.
 
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I agree. I don't think that the different political view of individual can be considered as traitor like Qin Hui. Because even when you are liberal, or commie, or Islamic Hardliner, or Neocon, you still have your country in your heart. What make you different to each other is that you think that your ideology is the best for your country. Sometime it cause trouble (and big trouble). But I can't consider them as the same as Qin Hui who was basically a pure traitor.

I've never heard of Qin Hui until reading this thread. Anyone know any good academic sources on this man?
 
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As informed people probably know, the China media exposed more evidence of ties between Hong Kong's protest leaders and US agents. As on now, I am unable to post news article links. I could post YouTube video links. I don't know why this website has this type of a restriction.

In one case, the US agents tried to secretly work with a Hong Kong protest leader in Macau, China at the Venetian Macao, which is owned by Las Vegas Sands Corp. China's surveillance network fortunately monitored this secret activity. The secret plan involved US instructions and material support for the Hong Kong protest leader. In return, the Hong Kong useful idiot would protest against China and protest in favor of change secretly controlled by the US.

The Las Vegas Sands Corp. is owned by Sheldon Adelson. Sheldon Adelson is a Zionist Jew who was accused swindling various business partners and of bribing Chinese officials. Sheldon Adelson legally bribes US government officials, especially those connected to the Republican Party. Sheldon Adelson thoroughly supports Israel's genocide of Palestine.

As you could see, the Zionist West uses its government bureaus and private businesses to perform secret activities for the detriment of others. At the same time, the Zionist West hypocritically boasts it has the freest and most fair government and businesses. The courageous Snowden already showed the secret ties between US electronics companies, US websites, and US government. The secret ties are used for espionage and covert activities.

Now China is getting a taste of Zionism. I posted before in a thread regarding about Zionist parasites next target is China. I was ridiculed by some Chinese members since i don't have the proof . Mainland Chinese do not know much about these zionist and their agenda other than they are Jews.
 
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You need to practice your english thou.

You have your change here.


In Taiwan we also being taught that China/Chinese civilization are ugly.

Our teacher laugh and say how stupid old Chinese people mentality for refusing Western superior civilization.


Chinese people of today should have more proud of being Chinese.

And give Chinese people the best of everything!

We will restore Confucianism and kick Christian Democracy and Communism out of China!
屬實我的英語不好,因為看到這裡國人很多,我才發言的。很感謝你的發言,我想我寫正體字你會看的舒服些吧。呵呵,畢竟我們看得懂正體字,你們未必看得懂簡體字。
 
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China's main focus right in on the Mainland, that's why the US chose to ignite the fire in HK because they cannot infiltrate into the Mainland China right now.



China didn't make HK poorer, it was those fcking tycoons from HK.

One of them just fled when he knew China's national security department was coming for him.
In this electronic age, it's not difficult to confiscate his net worth. Make some 麻煩 for his companies, sink his shares...
 
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屬實我的英語不好,因為看到這裡國人很多,我才發言的。很感謝你的發言,我想我寫正體字你會看的舒服些吧。呵呵,畢竟我們看得懂正體字,你們未必看得懂簡體字。

Simplified Hanzi looks ugly and crippled.

One day it supposed to be returned to traditional one, as education development already spread well and developed.

There's no reason by saying Chinese people unable to learn traditional Hanzi as it too hard to learn, the reality they can.

It's not Hanzi is the problem, but the lack of education development is the problem.

So it will be returned one day.

Crippled Hanzi is not a progress.
 
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It's more like you are masturbating to your own fantasies, and boasting about it.

Meanwhile, Vietnam is still poisoned by Agent Orange and begging anyone to help them with the SCS disputes. Vietnamese are too dumb to protest for a better government and way too dumb to build a great nation, so they wade across rivers in plastic bags.

Vietnam's bridge in a bag
We r poor , but No Vn kids die in trash bin like in China.

Back to the topic. The US boss warn China to stop violating 'human rights' in HK or they will face with sanction

DO u wanna lose ur jobs in Foxconn ??? :pop:
White House Shows Support For Aspirations Of Hong Kong People
Reuters
Posted: 09/29/2014 2:11 pm EDT Updated: 09/29/2014 2:59 pm EDT

WASHINGTON, Sept 29 (Reuters) - The White House is watching democracy protests in Hong Kong closely and supports the "aspirations of the Hong Kong people," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on Monday.

"The United States supports universal suffrage in Hong Kong in accordance with the Basic Law and we support the aspirations of the Hong Kong people," said Earnest, who also urged restraint on both sides.
 
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